lol...it's trent dilfer tho...how can u take that guy seriously? he was horrid as a QB
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lol...it's trent dilfer tho...how can u take that guy seriously? he was horrid as a QB
Belichick has never made any move I can recall under the expressed belief the player would be a star. He doesn't seem to think in those terms as all of his players are utilitarian cogs in a machine to him apparently.
I think all trades are done under the presumption by both parties they're at least getting equal value and in most cases believe they're getting the value advantage. In Welker's case, he'd been consistently hurting the Patriots when they played against the Dolphins..the Pats essentially had a job opening and what better guy to fill for them than a guy at the competition who's been hurting you?
It's like Jerry Jones said when asked about acquiring TO after the "Star Incident"...He was asked wasn't he upset over TO standing on the star and spiking the ball on the star? Jones simply replied, not as upset as I was when he score the 2 touchdowns before he did it.
A guy is hurting you and it's reasonable to hire him away from your competition...you do it.
Thanks for the help, guys!
I'm starting Peyton...I just heard that Wayne and Tamme are both questionable tonight.
I hope my Colts can pull it off!
I'm starting Peyton...I just heard that Wayne and Tamme are both questionable tonight.
I hope my Colts can pull it off!
[B][URL="https://www.freeones.com/bree-olson said:Bree Olson[/URL][/B], post: 5171395, member: 370964"]Thanks for the help, guys!
I'm starting Peyton...I just heard that Wayne and Tamme are both questionable tonight.
I hope my Colts can pull it off!
Good luck.:hatsoff: Gotta love a girl who loves football.
Unless there was a good possibility a team would have seriously tried to get that person anyhow and it significantly improves the team acquiring players for the purpose of weakening their opponents is a bad strategy in the vast majority of situations. Selectively hurting an opponent is almost never as good as improving oneself in sports.
I tend to think Belichick got Welker because he was somebody that had good value for what they had to give up and for what they had to pay him.
In recent years Belichick hasn’t had the good drafts he had in the past the New England front office is still one of the best teams when it comes to trading others for value and getting the better end of the deal out of it. (Even if it sometimes doesn’t work out like picking the wrong people when you obtained extra draft picks.)
I tend to agree with that practically and as a martial artist, I agree completely in principle. As in this case getting Welker only improves your odds against the Dolphins if Welker does nothing appreciable for you.
But in this case as was mentioned earlier...Welker was also a very good fit for what the Pats do...Identifying that, it's a no brainer to get a player who's individually hurting you from your competition and use him to help you hurt everyone else including the competitor you "relieved" of him.
No offense, but who the hell is worried about the Dolphins? I'm a little worried about the Chicago defense, but Miami? Really?
Re: Welker, I love that guy and I love Welker/Branch even better. Seems like the Pats are getting pretty hard to defend against, and Brady is way better passing in the mid-range anyway.
When Welker was with the Dolphins he was hurting the Pats...and was very productive overall....
To everyone else, Welker probably looked like the little train that could on a bad team...Belichick saw he could use Welker and take a weapon away from them at the same time.
That's why he's the man!
That's probably my favorite thing about the '10 Pats—aside from Brady there are no superstars, but you get all these solid players together, coached up and acting like a unit, you end up with an elite team.
One thing for sure it's a two man race basically.
As a Charger fan I officially gave up on Phillips Rivers(who was beasting) chances after being swept by the Raiders.
It it were fans voting I would agree ,but I think Brady would have to have 4 pedestrian games & Vick to go off like he did that Monday night to do it.
We'll see.
That's kind of my point.
In a league like the MLB, that would be true. But leagues with salary cap actually tend to have the exact opposite phenomenon occur. Most often, it's not an equal talent exchange, rather it's an equal monetary exchange. Unfortunately, such is the nature of the three other major sports in which most often, money is the determining factor. In Welker's case, Belichick wasn't really enamored with Welker for anything he did against the Patriots, especially since he wasn't even playing wide receiver until 2006ish. The reason Belichick liked him is he was a bargain for what he played.
One thing for sure it's a two man race basically.
As a Charger fan I officially gave up on Phillips Rivers(who was beasting) chances after being swept by the Raiders.
It it were fans voting I would agree ,but I think Brady would have to have 4 pedestrian games & Vick to go off like he did that Monday night to do it.
We'll see.
The real NFL MVP is James Harrison. He is the most dominant player in the NFL. He would never win because 1) he's a defender and 2) he plays "dirty". He's the rare linebacker who gets a ton of tackles, sacks, and forced fumbles.
I'd go with Brady 2, Michael Vick 3, Roddy White 4, Arian Foster 5.
His first game against the Patriots in '04 he became the 2nd player ever to return a k/o, a punt, kick a FG, kick an extra point and record a tackle in one game. In his 2nd game against the Pats (1 of only 4 wins for the Dolphins that year), Welker set up a TD off of a long punt return...The Dolphins won 29-28.
Welker was one of the league's best k/o and punt returners in '04 (2nd in both) in addition to having kicked that FG and extra point against the Patriots.
He actually played WR (or slot) in '05 and averaged 15 yds. a catch, he just didn't start. By '06 he led the Dolphins in receptions from the slot position (over WRs Marty Booker and Chris Chambers) in addition to catching 9 against the Patriots in one game. By '07 Belichick traded a 2nd and a 7th round pick for Welker - the Dolphins' leading receiver from the slot (who was undrafted in '04) to come play slot for him.
Not sure how you define "enamored" but I'm not sure the average coach/GM would give up a 2nd round pick (let alone a 7th too, let alone a guy like Belichick) for a guy unless there's something that moves them very positively about that player.
He sure did. I'm still kind of upset, if White hadn't knocked that ball away from Reggie I would've had more points. I'm in the playoffs, NO MERCY.
Thanks for the clarification, I always kind of wondered what made them change statuses.
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Meh, I realize that a win is a win, but we didn't look good at all last night. Even if we make the playoffs this team isn't going anywhere without a defense. The Titans hadn't scored a TD in 13 quarters and we gave up four. Tennessee hung with Indy all night and they're fucking garbage. Is it baseball season yet? I guess that I have more disappointment to look forward to...
Yeah the MVP award is unfair just like the Heismann in that it really is a 'most outstanding' QB/RB award. Agree that Brady would have to have some bad games down the stretch to change this inevitable outcome.
There should only be ONLY an Offensive & Defensive MVP & announced at the same time with EQUAL billing.
To say "defense wins Championships" they certainly get little respect when it comes to awards like this don't they?
Harrison's certainly not 'dirty' & is playing the only way he knows how. But eventually he needs to raise his head & look at what he's hitting though.
I had a friend ex teammate at a JUCO who did the same thing(lead with the crown of his helmet) & he would knock your dick off. Got occassional 'stingers' & I was really afraid he was gonna eventually hurt himself ,but he didn't. Hope Harrison doesn't hurt himself.
