but what if they admit they're just "trying to be cute" by defending Mr Marcus?
Then you get to "try to be cute" by kicking them in the balls.
but what if they admit they're just "trying to be cute" by defending Mr Marcus?
You are trying to fuck with the wrong person, eric2136. I don't allow you to say that shit in a public forum. How do you fucking dare to say that i have broken criminal laws, you anonymous coward? I haven't broken any laws and this shows the idiot that you are.
I haven't shot b-g stuff in the US since the condom proposal came out. I can shoot however the fuck i want out of US.
Neither me or my companies are US based, so i don't need to comply to 2257; however, i do with all my sites and have all the documentation in perfect order; i even never ever shoot with people under 21yo as clearly stated on my sites.
Don't say something like that again, because i'm no a coward like you and i'll seek for you, pussy!
it's really clear that Eric is just here to try and stir some shit up and be contrarian to everything.
Marcus DID cover it up. He was deliberate! It isn't Marcus' decision on whether he is cured or not. The guy has shot thousands of scenes, he knows better and he knew what would happen if he were caught. He only came forward because he was caught. If he had not been caught he wouldn't have said a peep about it, even though he himself was infected by someone! That alone would have raised a flag and protected other people so please, he was looking out only for himself and was willing to go on quietly while someone was working with Syphilis. He did deceive the director and producer and other talent in that way alone, let alone a forged test.
Rocco didn't say that ALL talent has herpes. If he did he's wrong because I DON'T have it. I have NEVER had an STD in my life. I have been told I may have been exposed, but never tested positive meaning I NEVER caught it.
Sharon Mitchell who ran AIM (Adult Industry mediacal) for years would know much better than Rocco would on who has what. She said that the % of active performers with Herpes is always over 60%, but the required tests do NOT test for herpes.
Derek Burts was doing gay scenes for sucks sake and did you know there IS NO TESTING IN GAY PORN!!! they rely on condoms or they pair HIV positive partners together? Did you know that Mr Burts was in gay bars and having gay sex off camera? So please, you need to find a better example than Derek Burts.
No Sabrina YOU don't know who YOU are dealing with...you're no match for me but if you want to debate me on issues which can land you rbutt in PRISON then be my guest... Are you still a US citizen, or a foriegn citizen doing business in the US ?...Why yes you are now aren't you...:
The Supreme Court has ruled that, “transmitting obscenity and child pornography, whether via the Internet or other means, is... illegal under federal law for both adults and juveniles.”
-Reno v. ACLU, 521 U.S. 844 (1998).
Obscenity
Obscenity is not protected under First Amendment rights to free speech, and violations of federal obscenity laws are criminal offenses. The U.S. courts use a three-pronged test, commonly referred to as the Miller test, to determine if given material is obscene. Obscenity is defined as anything that fits the criteria of the Miller test, which may include, for example, visual depictions, spoken words, or written text.
Federal law makes it illegal to distribute, transport, sell, ship, mail, produce with intent to distribute or sell, or engage in a business of selling or transferring obscene matter. Convicted offenders face fines and imprisonment. Although the law generally does not criminalize the private possession of obscene matter, the act of receiving such matter could violate federal laws prohibiting the use of the mails, common carriers, or interactive computer services for the purpose of transportation. (For more information, see Citizen's Guide to Federal Law on Obscenity).
› Title 18 › Part I › Chapter 110 › § 2257prevnext18 USC § 2257 - Record keeping requirements
Current through Pub. L. 112-123. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)
(a) Whoever produces any book, magazine, periodical, film, videotape, digital image, digitally- or computer-manipulated image of an actual human being, picture, or other matter which—
(1) contains one or more visual depictions made after November 1, 1990 of actual sexually explicit conduct; and
(2) is produced in whole or in part with materials which have been mailed or shipped in interstate or foreign commerce, or is shipped or transported or is intended for shipment or transportation in interstate or foreign commerce;
The porn industry is nothing more than a glorified criminal enterprise...The only reason you aren't in prison right now is because we have a liberal president who hasn't declared a "war on porn" like Bush did, and like Romney wants do...
You're no better than HIV positive Stagliano...and the same charges he faced are just as applicable for YOU and under conservsative interpretation of the Miller Test for Obscenity...your butt would be rotting in jail for LIFE :thumbsup:.
I thought you were retired?and Eric, dude you need to give that 2257 shit a rest. That entire law was written so that the government could trip up people in our industry over paperwork to prosecute them and make doing business that much harder. It's a huge joke and I have a compliance officer who mainstains all of my paperwork and releases and I haven't shot a scene since the law went into effect. So good try!
and Eric, dude you need to give that 2257 shit a rest. That entire law was written so that the government could trip up people in our industry over paperwork to prosecute them and make doing business that much harder. It's a huge joke and I have a compliance officer who mainstains all of my paperwork and releases and I haven't shot a scene since the law went into effect. So good try!
I did not say anything about the industry so how it could be wrong, let alone 100% wrong, I am at a loss to understandEverything you said regarding the industry issue is 100% wrong...Go back and re-read all posts that were made relative to that issue and then you tell me who really made a "big deal" about it...like I said, porn models come here to be validated. and noone else... whether you, or anyone else, believes me or not is irrelevant.
Everything you said regarding the legal issues is also 100% wrong...porn company's violate the law everyday regarding condom regs meant to help protect and mitigate against the spread of STD's, and you think that the DA wouldn't be interested in that regarding cases of STD outbreaks!?!?...that doesn't even make any sense...
In any event, all discussion regarding prosecutiion is ridiculous anyways if you have read and comprehend the facts in their entirety, so i'm not even going to re-vist and debate on that topic again because it's pointless...
Porn companies won't be charged and niether will Derrick Burts or anyone else..There is too much money at stake. Any talent infected needs to get their shots get it cleared up and get back to work...Stop all this bitchin and moanin' cause you're lucky to have a job in the first place...
And if another outbreak occurs I'll say the same thing... Now I'm THRU with this topic, back to the pussy and porn :thumbsup:!!!
What a load of old cobblers you have just stated. Mr Marcus has admitted publicly to what he has done, so is, in fact, a very easy target for prosecution. Just because others have not been charged does not mean that her should be let off.LOL..Ok, well despite your rambling gibberish, the following facts remain:
1) Marcus didn't DELIBERATELY infect anybody...he took treatment and thought he was cured..
Yes he did - he even altered his test results because he decided that the results were not to his liking
2) He faked the test because he thought he was basically cured and was told that his test results were indicating a false positive technicality, and he was cleared to work with the help of the industry doctors so he could make them money...an assertion backed up by other posters in this thread and also by Derrick Burts in his press conference video...
He faked the test so that he could work
3) Marcus most likely WASN'T patient zero which is an assertion which is also supported by other posters in this thread...Just because a biased industry race-bating thread is made quoting a biased industry source...you all of the sudden take it as gospel despite any facts to the contrary ...why, because I guess the industry NEVER lies, huh !?!?...that's just ridiculous...
He has not alluded to anyone else in the industry as being patient zero
4) The article clearly states that ALL porn performers have or have had STD's...Rocco says ALL porn actors/actresses have herpes...Derrick Burts said he got three STDs his first month in the industry and was told to keep working...Derrick Burts also said that he wasn't aware of the existing regs about condoms, and he felt that condoms were imperative to help stop the spread of STD's...He also said that he was dissuaded, if not prohibited, from wearing condoms in Sraight pornscenes..
I gather that herpes is the STD mentioned here. Herpes is incurable and lasts for life, but is dormant most of the time. Cold sores are a form of herpes and can lead to genital herpes. I would be surprised if most of the industry performers did not have herpes. In the US, 57.7% of the population is infected with HSV-1 and 16.2% are infected with HSV-2 (genital herpes). Worldwide, the infection rate is estimated at between 65 and 90% of the population, so I would ignore herpes as an STD to worry about
So despite all the evidence regarding the overall STD problem you choose to irrationally rant, bash, and demonoize ONE employee like he's the only porn person who EVER worked with an STD in the industry...why? because he's black, he's male, and thus because he's an easy target...
wow.. that's awsome...yeah I can tell you really care about everybody and are absolutely determined to get to the truth and improve work conditions for all porn actors/actresses...
And as for the criminal aspect...you've broken as many criminal 2257 regs and condom laws as anyone, HIV- postive Stagliano just escaped prison by the skin of his teeth for stuff that YOU do everyday ...
So if Marcus ended up jail, which he absolutely won't,. then I garauntee YOU would be in the cell right next to his.
I don't know about you, but I would feel that someone that came up to me and broke my legs with a baseball bat should deserve some time in prison.How was he blaming everyone else? If anything it should have been the industry to blame not him. Sure he messed and is held accountable for his actions but I am going to say this again. The guy apologized for his actions and he aplogized for covering it up but to feel that he should be put away behind bars and banned from the industry forever is just crazy. Even if I didn't like him or know him I believe I have the right to be empathical (NOT sympathize) and try to understand his flaws, his pain, his suffering something the industry could even care less on. Let alone the lack of obtaining a performer's TTS sheet and something the industry should take into action. Not just about losing money.
This thread has nothing to do with race but ppl are pissed off because there are those who happen to think differently understanding the story from a different angle instead of siding with those who feel justice should "put-his-ass-sorry-ass-in-prison" bandwagon. Sorry but you won't find me joining that bandwagon. Even if Marcus fucked up again it still wouldn't change my mind. People make mistakes and sometimes it takes a long time for them to finally learn from it. I believe Mr Marcus has understood what he did and will eventually move on. This will happen eventually.
Fuck...this slow computer of minesss...I probably wouldn't call you bad names in person unless you seriously tried to be all up in my face then I'd be like "Is this girl for real? Why is this crazy ass all up in my face like a fucking vulture?...Oh fuck here she goes now with her shit...uh oh....uh oh...UH OH! oooooooo" Fight is on. If I saw you in person i'd prolly give you small wave and walk out so who knows. So yeah...call me a controversial, conspiracy brother/player or whatever the fuck else slang you've put to the table but that won't change my views on this topic. PERIOD!
Here's DeepCover admitting he's fucking clown shoes.
http://board.freeones.com/converse.php?u=370968&u2=412157
hey scumbag would you rather wipe my ass for posting that piece of shit? I could only imagine how you would really operate if you worked for the tabloids. And for the record I haven't replied in her dirty box since you pathetic meatheaded shit sack.
I thought you were retired?
here is something for you outsiders that think you know everything about the porn business.
Deepcover you said that he shouldn't be prosecuted or banned from working in the industry forever. What he did by knowingly engaging is sex while infected without informing the other person is a felony! Did you know that?
Do you also know that with the recent outbreaks of HIV and now Syphilis that the porn industry is teetering on becoming heavily regulated by the government and that every little thing is under a microscope? They are just waiting for the perfect chance to come charging in and declare it a disease infested nuisance.
He has been finger pointing at everyone else, kind of like a kid who gets caught stealing "but they were stealing more than me" like justifying bad behaviour with other bad behavior is acceptable?
You have a dog in this fight because he's black. Just like "Guilty or not we love you OJ" and the very same reason that Michael Vick is the most popular NFL player among black fans for the 3rd straight year even thought he electrocuted and tortured hundreds of gods for fun. Or the people of DC voting Marion Barry in as Mayor a second time after he was caught smoking crack with hookers during his first term as mayor lol It is no secret that many black folks find it very hard to see the fault in other black folks. More than 60% of blacks on juries say they find it hard to convict a black defendent even when they have overwhelming proof. You are a conspiracy brother without question
You're defending HIM because he's black.
Yeah I have plenty for you regarding Sharon "condom porn doesn't sell" Mitchell once you ascend past the remedial level of actually reading the article which you are commenting on but obviously haven't read....Rocco was just one person interviewed but there were others such as Belladona who substantiated the authors claims...
I'm not even going to comment on your claim regarding your test status for the past 15 or so odd years, because we all know pornstars NEVER lie...LOL...
Get up to speed on this issue before you engage me...It's common knowledge that working with herpes is permitted in the industry...forging and faking tests is common too... Marcus is no better or worse than the rest of you...which you already know all too well
Derrick Burts never denied doing gay porn...something you would know if you bothered to watch his press conference...but it's funny how quick you are to blame the victim and discount his testimony regarding industry testing practices...yeah I can tell you really care about Actor safety and what he went thru...
Also you want another example..how about Marc Wallace who infected other Actors including Karen Stagliano, John Stagliano's wife with HIV..this guy infected the wife of one of the biggest porn producers in the world with HIV, yet you want to irrationally hold Marcus to a higher standard than him...wow
Yeah I can tell you and Marcus go waaaayyy back together...with friend like you who needs enemies
HE DIDN'T OWN UP TO IT UNTIL HE WAS FUCKING CAUGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!! He was going to get treated and not tell anyone which would have allowed whoever infected him to keep on infecting other people!!!!!!!!!!!!! he is only saying sorry because he was caught!!!! wake the fuck up people God Damn!!!!!!!!!!!