Max Hardcore Saint or Sinner?

[Priapus]

Looking around for material I've come across some interviews from the adult world, and they have said they wouldn't work for him as his type of movies are a little too much for them.

I found a list of adult stars who have worked with Max...http://www.rame.net/library/lists/max.html

 

[om3ga]

Sierra (the black adult actress) aqpparently made the following comment in her forum last month (I won't mention the forum details here, but suffice to say is accessible via her website):

"I have done a lot of things some because I was under contract and didn't have a choice (midgets, doing guys with strap-ons), others because I didn't know what the scene was going to be and finding myself in the situation(Vienna sausages and cum), others because I am just that freaky and wanted to try it (American Bukakke) I tell you what they built some character. I also left the business still in demand and on top because I began to see what they where trying to do after a while chew me up and spit me out."

Sierra also stated in her forum that "all the directors care about is the next amateur girl and how we can degrade them on film."

She plans to "reinvent" herself as a glamour model.

 

[12barsofsoul]

I just voted. And Mr. 12barsofsoul isn't ignorance is bliss for some cases and for the particular case u are fighting for?

Its great that you voted. You're making the porn industry a better place. Commend you for promoting free speach especally in the times we are living in. Thank you.

Ignorance is bliss for the case I'm fighting for? Let me see if I understand this one line you are using trying to reveal something insightful. First I'll make it clear that I'm not a fan of Max Hardcore. Just like many people here I find his work a little bit too much. But what is it in my statement (including previous ones) is ignorant? In your mind what is the case that I'm fighting for? Have you really read my previous post? or just basing it off of that one where it seems like I'm a Max Hardcore fan? Well if you are then my friend you just illustrated ignorance.

People seem to think Max is number one public enemy. Maybe you don't like rough sex and that's fine - I'm not fond of it myself. Have you taken into account that these girls are willing participant? People on this forum make it seem like he's forcing girls. If a girl doesn't like what he's doing then she can walk off or tell him to stop and if she doesn't then well...for a lack of a better word she's a dumbass. There have been some controversial cases about him particularly the British Porn actress which you will have to read up on to know what its about and you can come to your own conclusion about it. Just look at today's porn you'll find the same degrading sexual acts that Max does but at a higher quality production with girls in fishnets, fancy high heels, good make up, lush settings and "prettier" but it's ok because as long as the degrading sexual acts come from high reputable companies like Anabolic/Diabolic, Evil Angel, Devils Angel, 3rd Degree etc...with higher class girls its great porn - they can be choked, spitted on, Ass to mouth, verbally degraded, slapped, deep throated till they puke all day long. But if its Max with his B rated girls, medicore production, home camcorder style videos he's a sadist.

Again I'm not a fan of Max.

Here's something interesting to read up on as well. If you think Max hardcore is "evil" well I think this female director makes Max look like a kitten. http://www.lukeisback.com/stars/stars/delilah_strong.htm

 

[redlago]

Saint or Sinner? I don't know really. Don't you really think the women have a right to say whether Max can degrade her or not? If she doesnt then why go? There is a market for this stuff, and to be honest I kinda like some of it. I pick and choose which stuff I watch as most of you do. I like the anal and deep throat among some other not so harcore things. I personally don't get off on the pissing or physical abuse, but someone other than Max does. In my opinion, if you don't like it, don't watch it. I just like the way he dresses them up and the way they act. Does that make me a molestor? I say no. I believe Max takes it a little far now and then, but like I said, I don't watch what I don't like.


The cute little ruffly socks are my fetish, so you see, I like most of the Max stuff. Until it reaches the point that I don't like it anymore.

Just my opinion I voted saint

 

[12barsofsoul]

In my opinion, if you don't like it, don't watch it. I just like the way he dresses them up and the way they act. Does that make me a molestor? I say no. I believe Max takes it a little far now and then, but like I said, I don't watch what I don't like.


The cute little ruffly socks are my fetish, so you see, I like most of the Max stuff. Until it reaches the point that I don't like it anymore.

Just my opinion I voted saint

You're right if people don't like it then don't watch it. Some people just look at his box covers and say "sadist".

There was another post on here that claims people who watch Max are closet rapist, serial killers, or molesters...if that is the case then all of us are guilty of being one because we've seen a majority of our favorite porn stars all dressed up in school girl outfits and liked it!

But just to extend your point further or rather repeat what's been said again and again on this post is that...everyone has Different taste and perceptions which is fine. But it starts getting stupid when we judge others because they don't agree with our taste. I'm more into fishnets and thongs but I'm not going to go off and judge someone else because they like girls in school uniforms or ball gags and leather...even if they like to get a huge hot pile of shit on their chest - its all good.

 

[redlago]

agreed

 

[TheSatyrIcon]

Not to pardon Max, but...after 13 years...shouldn't EVERY girl in the industry know NOT to work with Max? Shouldn't these girls, even if they are amateurs, know OF Max....simply by going into a porn shop/website/forum? If a girl is going to accept the cash to do a scene, shouldn't she know WHO'S giving her the money?

Max is awful. So are his imitators. But shouldn't there be a drop off in their productivity? There are girls that have said that won't work for him again. AGAIN? Why take the money in the first place?

It takes two to tango in the fuck business (and if you think that is more than that, thats cuz there is a PLOT between the fucking)....one to film and one to watch, one to pay and one to be paid. Girls that won't work with Max, awesome! But do NOT work with Anabolic, Diabolic, Red Light District, Zero Tolerance, et al. Better money and better male co-stars do NOT make the throat less sore from getting fucked or gapes less wide. A2M's are the same, and the objects inserted are just as punishing the hands other than Max.

Would that kill the current state of gonzo porn?
Hell...that would kill the current state of mainstream porn now....

The Satyr Icon

 

[12barsofsoul]

Girls that won't work with Max, awesome! But do NOT work with Anabolic, Diabolic, Red Light District, Zero Tolerance, et al. Better money and better male co-stars do NOT make the throat less sore from getting fucked or gapes less wide. A2M's are the same, and the objects inserted are just as punishing the hands other than Max.

Would that kill the current state of gonzo porn?
Hell...that would kill the current state of mainstream porn now....

The Satyr Icon

Exactly.

 

[rrreee2]

What Do You Think Of Max Hardcore.

The old man born in 1944. What do you think about him and his porn?
He has a very bad reputation,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Hardcore

 

[dave_rhino]

Re: What Do You Think Of Max Hardcore.

Its amusing. But id never watch any of his movies. How can i get off with that on my screen?

 

[georges]

Re: What Do You Think Of Max Hardcore.

a scumbag, he is doing more harm than good to women, his videos are very borderline to rape. He threats women without any single parcel of respect.

 

[Iamforever]

Re: What Do You Think Of Max Hardcore.

a scumbag, he is doing more harm than good to women, his videos are very borderline to rape. He threats women without any single parcel of respect.

same here.

 

[Perilypos]

Re: What Do You Think Of Max Hardcore.

I like porn that has me enjoy above all the female beauty and I hate any stuff that seems to show even a shade of degradation and belittling women. His reputation is sufficient for me to avoid watching any movie of his.

 

[georges]

Fox, you are one of the very few exceptions who like max hardcore, even pornstars on that board dispise him and even miss brittany hates him and would not have hesitated to slap the greed out correctly of that trashbag if he touched her.

 

[thompson]

The bits of his films I have seen make me sick, I don't know how he can treat women like that.

 

[Roughneck]

I think the poll is misleading (and incomplete) so I refuse to participate.

A lot of the stuff that Max Hardcore does doesn't turn me on.
But then again, I'm not all that hot about all-girl movies or bondage and S&M either :dunno:

But is he evil/devil incarnate/insert-favourite-disparaging-term-here?

I don't think so.

Do I think people who watch his stuff are depraved? I don't think so - I could extend that analogy to say that all those who enjoy 'bondage' and/or S/M enjoy torturing other people.


I think I made a similar point in the "Is porn degrading thread". S'long as two (or more) adults know what they are getting into and consent to it....

Now if the dude is coercing others into it, that's a whole different ballgame.


If the poll could be edited, I'd add "I don't care about what the idiot does. His stuff doesn't turn me on".

cheers,

 

[Dro50]

I havn't seen to many of his movies but from the three I've seen one wasn't too degrading whereas the others.....messed up man!

 

[FreeOnesWhore]

Did anyone see what Max Hardcore did to Jade Hsu?

 

[Irony]

I think a lot of them are sick.

 

[superspawn]

when i first started looking at porn a few years ago i saw a few of his vids and i really disliked them find them to be very degrading to women