Let's see if you gun nuts still support the "Stand Your Ground" law...

[Mariahxxx]

you aren't an anti-gun person??????????????? how the fuck do you back that statement up?

and no there are a few very few exceptions but I would say over 95% of gun crimes are committed by criminals so that's another stupid argument to make.
just because someone has no record doesn't mean they haven't committed crimes before. Few pedophiles are caught the first time they molest a child so I dont take that attempt at a reason seriously.

And you Europeans have such an issue with us and our guns but what about your twisted obsession with people shitting and pissing on each other and eating it and all that insanity???? I had someone a few years ago on ADT forum get crazy on me when in a discussion on obscenity laws I said that eating shit and drinking piss isn't healthy and it's a sign of a seriously twisted person, and then they came out of the woodwork against me. It's like a standard fetish over there like feet are here in the US. I can explain our need for guns all day but I highly doubt anyone can justify that sickness going on over there.

 

[georges]

you aren't an anti-gun person??????????????? how the fuck do you back that statement up?

and no there are a few very few exceptions but I would say over 95% of gun crimes are committed by criminals so that's another stupid argument to make.
just because someone has no record doesn't mean they haven't committed crimes before. Few pedophiles are caught the first time they molest a child so I dont take that attempt at a reason seriously.

And you Europeans have such an issue with us and our guns but what about your twisted obsession with people shitting and pissing on each other and eating it and all that insanity???? I had someone a few years ago on ADT forum get crazy on me when in a discussion on obscenity laws I said that eating shit and drinking piss isn't healthy and it's a sign of a seriously twisted person, and then they came out of the woodwork against me. It's like a standard fetish over there like feet are here in the US. I can explain our need for guns all day but I highly doubt anyone can justify that sickness going on over there.

Assari doesn't realize what is the situation in the USA. You are arguing a typical antigun socialist. For the rest, I can assure you that not all Europeans are into pissing or shitting, definitely not :nono: .

 

[assari]

you aren't an anti-gun person??????????????? how the fuck do you back that statement up?

and no there are a few very few exceptions but I would say over 95% of gun crimes are committed by criminals so that's another stupid argument to make.


And you Europeans have such an issue with us and our guns but what about your twisted obsession with people shitting and pissing on each other and eating it and all that insanity???? I had someone a few years ago on ADT forum get crazy on me when in a discussion on obscenity laws I said that eating shit and drinking piss isn't healthy and it's a sign of a seriously twisted person, and then they came out of the woodwork against me. It's like a standard fetish over there like feet are here in the US. I can explain our need for guns all day but I highly doubt anyone can justify that sickness going on over there.

In my view guns should be handled with care and should not be acquired as easily as candy.

If that makes me anti-gun person then I'm that kind.

Criminals do 95% of gun crimes...How do you know this?

I have never heard that someone doing thing like that so that's a generalization I think.

Assari doesn't realize what is the situation in the USA. You are arguing a typical antigun socialist.

People say that America is a developing country and that they are barbarians who can not read and write, but it is a big country and there are a wide variety of conditions.

 

[Chopper3000]

you aren't an anti-gun person??????????????? how the fuck do you back that statement up?

and no there are a few very few exceptions but I would say over 95% of gun crimes are committed by criminals so that's another stupid argument to make.
just because someone has no record doesn't mean they haven't committed crimes before. Few pedophiles are caught the first time they molest a child so I dont take that attempt at a reason seriously.

And you Europeans have such an issue with us and our guns but what about your twisted obsession with people shitting and pissing on each other and eating it and all that insanity???? I had someone a few years ago on ADT forum get crazy on me when in a discussion on obscenity laws I said that eating shit and drinking piss isn't healthy and it's a sign of a seriously twisted person, and then they came out of the woodwork against me. It's like a standard fetish over there like feet are here in the US. I can explain our need for guns all day but I highly doubt anyone can justify that sickness going on over there.

If only Adam Lanza and James Eagan Holmes were obsessed with piss and shit, many lives would have been saved. Unfortunately they are two fuckwits living in a country where retarded people can own a gun. Look at Anders Behring Breivik, a European obsessed with guns and not piss and shit. He ended up murdering 69 people in Norway. Piss and shit has a lot to answer for.

 

[sean miguel]

. Look at Anders Behring Breivik, a European obsessed with guns and not piss and shit. He ended up murdering 69 people in Norway. Piss and shit has a lot to answer for.

What if his mind was set on killing people and a gun happened to be the tool he used? Timothy McVeigh used fertilizer to kill 168 people.

Were any of Anders Breivik's victims armed? They were a bunch of summer camp kids on an island right? He could've went in wielding a hatchet and murdered as many.

You're blaming the implement.

 

[Chopper3000]

What if his mind was set on killing people and a gun happened to be the tool he used? Timothy McVeigh used fertilizer to kill 168 people.

Were any of Anders Breivik's victims armed? They were a bunch of summer camp kids on an island right? He could've went in wielding a hatchet and murdered as many.

You're blaming the implement.

I disagree. I reckon a bunch of summer camp kids could outrun a madman with a hatchet. They obviously couldn't outrun a bullet. All we need to do is keep guns away from fuckwits and then I see no problem at all.

 

[Philbert]

I disagree. I reckon a bunch of summer camp kids could outrun a madman with a hatchet. They obviously couldn't outrun a bullet. All we need to do is keep guns away from fuckwits and then I see no problem at all.

Even Steve Jobs couldn't invent a device that could precog a maniac getting a firearm...how far is Afghanistan from Norway? Is there any way a shitload of firearms isn't going to be more and more available to more and more bad thinking people?
I know Hash is easy to find all over Europe, and a firearm is just as easy to bring across borders and worth as much.
The point is always going to be that if you wanna wait 'til the nut comes and kills your little sister and Mamma before you want to have access to firearms, ok for you but too bad for anyone looking to you for safety.
Guns are not being melted down much, but all over the world they are being sold by the millions.
Where are they gonna go?
After a while, Europe will have to fend for themselves, and we'll be watching you scrambling to learn how to deal with an armed criminal class.
If one or more of the counselors had a firearm for protection and he had shot Anders Breivik after a few kids were shot, you don't think that would have been a better outcome? Belief in good luck and tradition doesn't stand before an armed murderer who doesn't care who dies.

Keep wishing for Utopia, it may occupy your thoughts while victims are screaming all around you. Didn't work so well in Norway.

There were no CCP holders in Aurora that night or many less would have had to die. Maybe none...it was all up to Wacko Boy with no one else armed.

 

[sean miguel]

Evenhave been a better outcome? Belief in good luck and tradition doesn't stand before an armed murderer who doesn't care who dies.

Keep wishing for Utopia, it may occupy your thoughts while victims are screaming all around you. Didn't work so well in Norway.

There were no CCP holders in Aurora that night or many less would have had to die. Maybe none...it was all up to Wacko Boy with no one else armed.

^ fucking that.

 

[Mariahxxx]

if there were people with guns during these mass shootings we wouldn't be able to refer to them as mass shootings. people will feel far less confident in carrying out something like that if they feel that people in the crowds will be armed. Just as they don't feel as confident kicking in a door to a house where the owner has a gun.

 

[Rattrap]

if there were people with guns during these mass shootings we wouldn't be able to refer to them as mass shootings. people will feel far less confident in carrying out something like that if they feel that people in the crowds will be armed. Just as they don't feel as confident kicking in a door to a house where the owner has a gun.

Do you have evidence to support this?

 

[Philbert]

Do you have evidence to support this?

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Depends on the clip you've got loaded, you balless wonder. But plenty of evidence...you should see my range targets.
Ratcrap doesn't seem to know much about firearms, or anything else too relevant.
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But I'm willing to bet that every gun owner with few exceptions has run at least 300 to 1000 rounds through each of their weapons, and concealed carry so they can be ready if it's needed...sounds like some wacko unloading in a closed movie theater would qualify.
And in the dark, even if partly blinded by muzzle flash, the same muzzle flash would make it easy to know where to point and unload.
I'd be sweating and adrenaline rushing, and probably wouldn't remember just when my kill machine made it to my hand; but it would be so automatic he would've gone down weighing a few pounds more than when he came in.
I always assume if the theater hadn't had a prohibition on CCPs there would've been more than just one carrier.

 

[Mariahxxx]

common sense and logic should be plenty of evidence. A person with a gun firing into a crowd of people without a gun has nothing to fear. If he opened fire and suddenly bullets were zipping by his head he wouldn't be quite so bold now would he? he would have to hide and take cover which would take away his ability to fire into the mass of people.

 

[assari]

If he opened fire and suddenly bullets were zipping by his head he wouldn't be quite so bold now would he?

What do you do if a drug addict with a gun demanding money from you?

 

[Philbert]

What do you do if a drug addict with a gun demanding money from you?

Why do you ask these stupid questions?
Give him whatever I had that looked like what he wanted, then kill him asap.Why? Are you coming to Texas?

 

[sean miguel]

If he opened fire and suddenly bullets were zipping by his head he wouldn't be quite so bold now would he? he would have to hide and take cover which would take away his ability to fire into the mass of people.

There are real life examples of that. That as soon as a mad gunman is confronted by someone who is armed the massacre stops, he retreats and/or takes his own life.

 

[georges]

What do you do if a drug addict with a gun demanding money from you?

Give him some money and then shoot him immediately in the back with a 44 mag revolver with hollow points or a 12 gauge pumpgun with 0000 buckshots till you empty the magazine

 

[georges]

Why do you ask these stupid questions?
Give him whatever I had that looked like what he wanted, then kill him asap.Why? Are you coming to Texas?

He asks these questions because he is socialist and never fired guns in his whole life. I don't see him coming to Texas, he would be too scared.

 

[assari]

Why do you ask these stupid questions?
Give him whatever I had that looked like what he wanted, then kill him asap.Why? Are you coming to Texas?

If you have a gun it does not mean that you are safe and if you take the gun from your pocket when someone is aiming at you you're lost.

He asks these questions because he is socialist and never fired guns in his whole life. I don't see him coming to Texas, he would be too scared.

Finland has a compulsory military service so I've shot quite a few times with weapons.

Have you been in the military?

 

[Philbert]

He asks these questions because he is socialist and never fired guns in his whole life. I don't see him coming to Texas, he would be too scared.

Damn, that's too bad.
I know some crazed jalapeno addicts I wanted to introduce him to; they'd pull a 6" Habenero on him in a heartbeat and demand his money.
I wonder what he'd do then?

Pray fervently, and wait for a spicy death?

 

[Mariahxxx]

ok assari if you were in your home and heard glass break. you looked down the stairs and saw 2 men with guns in your home what would YOU do? I would blast them both with my mossberg 12 gauge. i wouldnt give them a chance to use their guns because I would use mine first.

without a gun in that situation please, tell me how YOUR outcome would be better than mine.