If you could forfeit your life to prevent 9/11 from ever happening, would you do it?

[EvaForU]

i hope the new president will not be cheney ..yiik

remember: the fault is not of bush but of the people who voted him...and bush is not the only one responsible here...all the members of his administration are...

FACT: one of guantanamo´s recluded has beend declared innocent in Spain after 3 years of being in jail with no rights and without the protection of Geneve´s ocnvention... who will bring him back those 3 years of terror (yes,what US is doing in guantanamo is terror)

Kisses:

Eva

 

[EvaForU]

the Arabs aren't stupid enough to think the American government represents the people, just like any other government.Fox

yes,but it seems you are stupid enough to don´t know one of the main principles of democracy...

the gobernment represents all the nation,not only the people who woted them...

 

[Irony]

Hard question i dunno

 

[LordVader66]

I would not give my life to prevent the attacks on September 11. The reason being that American foreign policy has spawned these terrorists that want to destroy American interests anywhere they can. If 9/11 had not happened the terrorists would have found another way to accomplish their goals. Had it not happened that way something would have happened. Besides preventing september 11 could have made the way for an attack on a larger scale. I'm not giving my life for decisions the US government has made for fifty years in their foreign policies. This attack and the circumstances behind it did not happen in this generation, so why would I give my life for mistakes made by the American government when my parents were children.

 

[fedexguy316]

Re: If you could forfeit your life to prevent 9/11 from ever happening, would you do

Are you Kidding Me! In a HeartBeat Hell yes i would Maybe somethink iam twisted but thats the FireFighter in me.:thumbsup:

 

[Neromak]

Re: If you could forfeit your life to prevent 9/11 from ever happening, would you do

I'm not American BUT if my death prevented 9/11 I would. Being a guy with no family I would elect to save all those with a family.
I'd take a bullet for the greater good put it that way. At least I'll know my death meant Something even if my life didn't.

 

[pussy+dickdenice]

Re: If you could forfeit your life to prevent 9/11 from ever happening, would you do

with 64 Nays and 32 Yeahs, (Mine excluded, I didn't vote) the sentiment is well represented.

I didn't vote because:

In the days of British Raj, England divided one nation by religion. Now that the lion has retro-evolved in to a dog, US Raj is dividing the world by religion at a much more bigger scale. The eagle is landing with its bloody talons spread all over.

I believe the biggest gang of terrorists live within White House, Washington, USA. It is terrorizing the world. Latest victim is Somalia, its too small to resist even.

I know, there will be lots of shouts about Al Quaida. Before talking about that, tally the numbers of deaths perpetuated by Bush Administration all over the world in the year 2006 with Al Quaida's.

dd

 

[Aegis]

Re: If you could forfeit your life to prevent 9/11 from ever happening, would you do

I haven't answered this one, although I voted a long time ago. I voted No, since I may be willing to risk my life for people I don't know, but I wouldn't forfeit my life for anyone besides the people closest to me.

 

[002]

Re: If you could forfeit your life to prevent 9/11 from ever happening, would you do

Nightfly still alive?

 

[pathfinder]

Re: If you could forfeit your life to prevent 9/11 from ever happening, would you do

I would risk my life to stop 911. Even if it was a massive risk with a low probability of survival. I would risk my life to save any 3,000 people, I would probably risk my life to save any one person, in fact.

But I wouldn't give up my life... not if I knew it was 100% for sure I would die.

I always feel I can get lucky and cheat death, so if someone said "get on this plane, youhave a 5% chance of survival, stop the terrorists" I'd do it. But if there was a 0% chance, then no.

Part of the reason is because I wholeheartedly believe that in the future I will do something or be a part of something massive that saves a lot more than 3,000 lives and changes the world. Therefore, by sacrificing my life now, I would be eradicating the possibility of ever making that belief come true.

Fox

like fox, i would risk my life, but not forfiet my life.

Wow... I actually think this is a good answer. Just giving up my a life takes the fight out of it. IMHO, the sacrifice wouldn't mean as much if it was given as it would if it was a result of a conflict. Americans don't lie down and die, we die fighting.

When people thank me for my "sacrifice" (which I really don't even consider as being such) I usually say don't thank me, I was there because I wanted to be there and what happened wasn't by choice. In some case I'll go so far as to say, don't thank me.. I didn't do it for you and probably most people because as much greed, hate, bitterness, misery, etc. as I see on a daily basis I just don't think of my sacrifice as being for any of those people... the people who make this country hated by so many people including, in some cases, its own.

I made the "sacrifice" for the idea of the country. The fundamental ideas that made it what it was, but not so much what it has become.

So, in some ways I would say, no I wouldn't give my life for the 3,000 on 9/11. Odds are it would have made no difference in the grand scheme of things. I can almost guarantee that if it had been prevented that day it would have been accomplished another day, possibly worse. And, on some other level I think everything happens for a reason. Whether the reason for that day was good or bad it's hard to say.

Now, if this "offer" had been presented to me on 9/10 and the person asking me showed me everything that happens after that day and could also tell me that once I'm dead that my soul/consciousness will continue to "live" I'd probably reconsider.

 

[Torre82]

Re: If you could forfeit your life to prevent 9/11 from ever happening, would you do

I wouldnt lift a finger.

It is pure naivete... sheer stupidity to think it would do any good. When you take other's sufferings upon yourself, you grow strong while they grow weak. If it didnt happen on 9/11 because someone 'sacrificed' their own life, then it would happen a year.. five.. a decade later. It's a hollow gesture to click yes, click vote and be done with it. You shouldnt even feel good about yourself for doing so.

A button on a webpage isnt reality. You werent there. Even if you were, could you do anything? If you could.. WOULD you? How far would you go? Would the choice be as simple as pointing out some random guy who you happen to know is going to be on the plane? Or are you playing the part of Bruce Willis in Die Hard 4, here? Saving everybody, dodging bullets and doing the hero gig?

This topic is feel-good nonsense. Considering that people clicked NO about twice as much as YES, if you apply reality to that figure you'll find your run of the mill, everyday coward who doesnt have the balls to overcome paralyzing fear, rush someone with your bare hands and have the strength to kill someone on the spot.

Or maybe take a rocket launcher to a jet and kill hundreds of people for the sake of the 3000+ dead if you dont.

Bah. There is no discussion to be had, here.

 

[pathfinder]

Re: If you could forfeit your life to prevent 9/11 from ever happening, would you do

I wouldnt lift a finger.

It is pure naivete... sheer stupidity to think it would do any good. When you take other's sufferings upon yourself, you grow strong while they grow weak. If it didnt happen on 9/11 because someone 'sacrificed' their own life, then it would happen a year.. five.. a decade later. It's a hollow gesture to click yes, click vote and be done with it. You shouldnt even feel good about yourself for doing so.

A button on a webpage isnt reality. You werent there. Even if you were, could you do anything? If you could.. WOULD you? How far would you go? Would the choice be as simple as pointing out some random guy who you happen to know is going to be on the plane? Or are you playing the part of Bruce Willis in Die Hard 4, here? Saving everybody, dodging bullets and doing the hero gig?

This topic is feel-good nonsense. Considering that people clicked NO about twice as much as YES, if you apply reality to that figure you'll find your run of the mill, everyday coward who doesnt have the balls to overcome paralyzing fear, rush someone with your bare hands and have the strength to kill someone on the spot.

Or maybe take a rocket launcher to a jet and kill hundreds of people for the sake of the 3000+ dead if you dont.

Bah. There is no discussion to be had, here.

Which is why the f'ers that run this country are so determined to strip us of our rights, particularly those that allow us to defend ourselves (RKBA). The more the government takes from us the more dependent we become upon them and the weaker our resolve becomes. When in some states we can't even carry certain types of knives in public how can we be expected to fight back against the ones who defy the laws intended to prohibit the lawless.

If we were allowed to exercise our right to carry defensive weapons we wouldn't need to ask whether we would give our life to save other... it would be would you be willing to kill to save others. But instead we've been instilled with the defeatist attitude for so long that fighting back isn't even an option.

 

[Torre82]

Re: If you could forfeit your life to prevent 9/11 from ever happening, would you do

Which is why the f'ers that run this country are so determined to strip us of our rights, particularly those that allow us to defend ourselves (RKBA). The more the government takes from us the more dependent we become upon them and the weaker our resolve becomes. When in some states we can't even carry certain types of knives in public how can we be expected to fight back against the ones who defy the laws intended to prohibit the lawless.

If we were allowed to exercise our right to carry defensive weapons we wouldn't need to ask whether we would give our life to save other... it would be would you be willing to kill to save others. But instead we've been instilled with the defeatist attitude for so long that fighting back isn't even an option.

I have so many angry things to say on this issue.. that I honestly cant give a reply without typing a couple pages. Typing on multiple, multiple issues.

Suffice it to say that gun control is a frickin' joke. Like disc protection schemes on CD/DVD's... the only one who feels the effects is the legitimate end-user.

Politicians are selfish scum.

Society doesnt need more lies about our security status. We'll never be under a true lockdown. Best to just buckle down and accept reality: We could die any moment from any number of things.

In the old days the dumbasses were killed off with sharp metal toys and poison berries in the field next door. These days they live 'til old age and use tax dollars. Death is taboo in this country. People are so afraid of it they dont even like talking about it. Hide away everything bad. Out of sight out of mind.

It's enough to make a rational person insane.

 

[Sutekh35]

Re: If you could forfeit your life to prevent 9/11 from ever happening, would you do

I'm sorry but I voted no, on the basis that another similiar atrocity would probably have happened sooner or later so any altruistic action on my part would just be delaying the inevitable. Besides I've got too much left that I would like to achieve before I leave this mortal coil

 

[pathfinder]

Re: If you could forfeit your life to prevent 9/11 from ever happening, would you do

Death is taboo in this country. People are so afraid of it they dont even like talking about it. Hide away everything bad. Out of sight out of mind.

And yet the film industry rakes in cash with violence and death as the biggest seller. Go figure.

 

[Torre82]

Re: If you could forfeit your life to prevent 9/11 from ever happening, would you do

And yet the film industry rakes in cash with violence and death as the biggest seller. Go figure.

Rarely does the hero die, though.

AND! The death portrayed is in unusual circumstances. The lot of us have almost NO chance of ever being killed infiltrating a Russian dam after we bungee jump down it. (Goldeneye reference for this decade: Achieved)

We're not going to be eaten by a raptor. Nor sliced by Aliens. John Travolta isnt going to make us hack the planet while getting sucked off by some random slut in a techno club before we later have access to an awesome multiscreen setup and see Halle Berry naked as hell. Sadly. (Op: Swordfish reference done, too!)

 

[pathfinder]

Re: If you could forfeit your life to prevent 9/11 from ever happening, would you do

Rarely does the hero die, though.

Another point. The heroes are becoming more and more bad guys. We not only like rooting for the bad guy but the bad guy that does bad things that just seem cool because of the way it's presented.

 

[Torre82]

Re: If you could forfeit your life to prevent 9/11 from ever happening, would you do

Another point. The heroes are becoming more and more bad guys. We not only like rooting for the bad guy but the bad guy that does bad things that just seem cool because of the way it's presented.

Well I always did like playing Dungeon Keeper. heh.

I believe the angry christians have a saying:

'Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven'

 

[futuresurfer]

Re: If you could forfeit your life to prevent 9/11 from ever happening, would you do

HELL YEAH
I unfortunatley have asthma or I would be over in Iraq right now and would have been for the past 4 years. If I could have gone in to the military I would be 6th generation military. My Grandfather and 2 of my Great Grandfathers have died in the military and all my uncles cousins and my own father have spent from 4-25 years in the military. I grew up on a military base til I was 18. We are used to being asked to put our lives second. Its just a genetic thing and one ppl who have not been around that life could bever understand. My life for 3000 civilians. Id do it in a heart beat.

 

[futuresurfer]

Re: If you could forfeit your life to prevent 9/11 from ever happening, would you do

My problem is not with the death of soldiers. I am not saying I enjoy American troops dying, far from that. However they are soldiers and they made the CHOICE to join the military, and in doing so taking the risk of being sent to war and dying. However 9/11 was an attack on CIVILIAN targets. That is cowardly. Some of you are going to scream that the US has killed civilians in the war on terror. That is a sad fact, however those civilians are not the targets and a very sad and unfortunate casualty of war.
The bastards who attacked on 9/11 PURPOSELY went after civilians and killed 3000 INNOCENTS. That is why I see a difference between our country defending itself and those so called "Freedom Fighter" cock sucking sons of bitches who caused 9/11.