Don't Ever Trust Cops. Always Record Them!

[dinkiedoodle]

It's been a few years for me too. They used to feel the need to remind me to slow down, but that's become less common.

You have no idea what it is like in England!!

British Police look for trouble!

 

[Theopolis Q. Hossenffer]

You have no idea what it is like in England!!

British Police look for trouble!

I suspect it is true many places here as well. Just speaking as a member of the "Ruling Class"

 

[FreeOnes_Adam]

You have no idea what it is like in England!!

British Police look for dolphins!

Fixed that for ya.

 

[gmase]

Fixed that for ya.

I thought I heard my sonar was beeping. 🐬

 

[gmase]

Don't let grandma with demenita shoplift $14 from Walmart.
https://kdvr.com/news/local/attorne...-old-with-dementia-was-injured-during-arrest/
https://kdvr.com/news/fox31-problem...ed-walmart-employees-to-call-loveland-police/

Female officer: “can you stop [the video] now?”
Male officer 1: “Ready for the pop? Hear the pop?”
Male officer 2: “what’d you pop?”
MO 1: “I think it was her shoulder.”
FO: “I hate this.”
MO: “What?”
FO: “I hate this.”
MO (laughing): “I love it.”

A dislocated shoulder and fractured wrist. At least she wasn't killed.

 

[Theopolis Q. Hossenffer]

She wasn't Black.

 

[FilmMan18]

It doesn't just matter who they're owned by. It also matters what their source is.

Steve , You Said It The Best Man. Thats The truth.

And If I Had A " LIKE " Button........ I would Mark It Down.. Steve Can You Please Get Me A " Like " Button... The Button Was Thee with 2 or 3 Of Your Posts...Thanks Bro

 

[gmase]

Steve , You Said It The Best Man. Thats The truth.

And If I Had A " LIKE " Button........ I would Mark It Down.. Steve Can You Please Get Me A " Like " Button... The Button Was Thee with 2 or 3 Of Your Posts...Thanks Bro

@Steve-FreeOnes - Where do you find these guys? Give him a ‘like’ button please. Hide the other ones from him though.

 

[Steve-FreeOnes]

Steve , You Said It The Best Man. Thats The truth.

And If I Had A " LIKE " Button........ I would Mark It Down.. Steve Can You Please Get Me A " Like " Button... The Button Was Thee with 2 or 3 Of Your Posts...Thanks Bro

You gotta have 10 posts under your name, mate, then you can like to your heart's content!

 

[VillellaMcMeans]

Desmond Cole on CBC explaining why police should be defunded and disarmed.

 

[Luxman]

The police need funding and guns, but they also need some serious reform and training.
Cut funding to corporate welfare, which saves at least a trillion dollars, then use that money for better police training.

 

[Straight Shooter]

Why do we think more $ equals less crime?

Let's take for instance my hometown of Chicago, Illinois. One of great cities in our nation and truly the most American of American cities. The police budget for fiscal 2020 was $2 billion, the 3rd largest in the nation. With such resources you'd think crime would be at an all time low. Wrong! shootings and carjackings have spiked since last year. Conservatives always like to say that the government should be run like a business. Well if CPD was a business they should've been fired a long time ago.

 

[gmase]

Why do we think more $ equals less crime?

Let's take for instance my hometown of Chicago, Illinois. One of great cities in our nation and truly the most American of American cities. The police budget for fiscal 2020 was $2 billion, the 3rd largest in the nation. With such resources you'd think crime would be at an all time low. Wrong! shootings and carjackings have spiked since last year. Conservatives always like to say that the government should be run like a business. Well if CPD was a business they should've been fired a long time ago.

Intuitively we think problems can be solved by throwing more money at the problems. It is rarely that simple.

Government - like schools, policing, and other social services - should not be run like a business. In fact, conservatives should be laughed at for saying such things. No business stays in business very long when cash outflows exceed cash inflows.

In the policing argument, is it better to address the cause (why are crimes committed) or the symptoms (punishment after the fact)?

 

[gmase]

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/23/biden-crime-focus-big-cities-495609

https://thehill.com/opinion/crimina...al-media-cover-the-story-americans-care-about

Not to pick on Atlanta, but here's its mayor discussing why murders are up 58% in her city
"Remember in Georgia we were opened up before the rest of the country, even before the CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) said that it was safe for us to open, so our night clubs and our bars remained open, so we had people traveling here from across the country to party in our city.”

 

[VillellaMcMeans]

You gotta have 10 posts under your name, mate, then you can like to your heart's content!

I have more than ten posts, but no like button, is it because I using mobile phone?

 

[VillellaMcMeans]

Intuitively we think problems can be solved by throwing more money at the problems. It is rarely that simple.

Government - like schools, policing, and other social services - should not be run like a business. In fact, conservatives should be laughed at for saying such things. No business stays in business very long when cash outflows exceed cash inflows.

In the policing argument, is it better to address the cause (why are crimes committed) or the symptoms (punishment after the fact)?

Of course cures are from addressing causes, addressing the symptoms do nothing to help cure anything - the cure for the common cold is not simply more blankets or more beatings.

In the policing argument any sort out punishment is simply revenge by the state on behalf the people - and proven worldwide to be ineffective in reducing our deterring crimes, there is not a single country worldwide that has successfully eliminated crimes by deterrence/punishments.

 

[VillellaMcMeans]

The police need funding and guns, but they also need some serious reform and training.
Cut funding to corporate welfare, which saves at least a trillion dollars, then use that money for better police training.

They need a culture change away from policing(bullying) people, towards peacekeeping.

Don't give them anymore money, they'll say they spent it and need more to put their union members through Harvard - and every year demand more at the very minimum to match yearly inflation. Defund and disarm them.

Meanwhile they train their members to lord over those their supposed to serve and protect, train their members to bully us and tell us they know better than us, train their members pain compliance techniques(torture) etc.

 

[gmase]

They need a culture change away from policing(bullying) people, towards peacekeeping.

Don't give them anymore money, they'll say they spent it and need more to put their union members through Harvard - and every year demand more at the very minimum to match yearly inflation. Defund and disarm them.

Meanwhile they train their members to lord over those their supposed to serve and protect, train their members to bully us and tell us they know better than us, train their members pain compliance techniques(torture) etc.

Harvard? You have to be kidding. Harvard is certainly not populated with union members.

Attitudes toward policing are driven by personal experience and the Zip Code where one sleeps.

Disarming and defunding seem like aspirational goals. Not very practical though. Reforming the system in would seem to be very practical - and prudent.

 

[VillellaMcMeans]

Harvard? You have to be kidding. Harvard is certainly not populated with union members.

Attitudes toward policing are driven by personal experience and the Zip Code where one sleeps.

Disarming and defunding seem like aspirational goals. Not very practical though. Reforming the system in would seem to be very practical - and prudent.

Yeah Harvard is exaggeration, but the amount funding police as you know are not exaggerated.

My point being that reforming the system should include exploring peacekeeping over policing - because policing is associated with bullying because of the police culture we've all seen over the centuries.

 

[gmase]

Here's a sad local story: https://www.cpr.org/2021/06/25/johnny-hurley-arvada-police-shooting-update/

Bad guy kills cop. Good guy with a gun kills bad guy. A responding officer kills good guy.

[Sorry to use public radio yet again. The story is probably made up.]