No I do not.
Do you believe in God?
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Did you write the book of love
And do you have faith in God above,
If the bible tells you so.
And do you have faith in God above,
If the bible tells you so.
Believer: "You need God to explain the Universe. Things must have causes."
Atheist: "Well ok... who created God then?"
Believer: "Umm... no one. He's an exception."
Atheist: "Ok. Well the same exceptional status you apply to God, I apply to the Universe; Check Mate."
I'm an atheist, but I don't mind people believing in the notion of God. It's a personal thing. However, what I DO mind is people applying a standard to others' arguments that they do not apply to their own.
Also, the idea of God is introduced to us when we are young, at a time when we are copying and trusting the majority of things our parents tell us because that's the natural way (those children who do not copy their parents quickly die out, I think you'll find). This is the same time we're introduced to Father Christmas and the Tooth Fairy.
Why can't religion/God be introduced to us when we're 15/16, and old enough to make a decision for ourselves, rather than being drilled into us at an age where we're too young to critically analyse such an idea.
Muchos respect to all opinions expressed so far. Nice to be having such an intelligent discussion.
Atheist: "Well ok... who created God then?"
Believer: "Umm... no one. He's an exception."
Atheist: "Ok. Well the same exceptional status you apply to God, I apply to the Universe; Check Mate."
I'm an atheist, but I don't mind people believing in the notion of God. It's a personal thing. However, what I DO mind is people applying a standard to others' arguments that they do not apply to their own.
Also, the idea of God is introduced to us when we are young, at a time when we are copying and trusting the majority of things our parents tell us because that's the natural way (those children who do not copy their parents quickly die out, I think you'll find). This is the same time we're introduced to Father Christmas and the Tooth Fairy.
Why can't religion/God be introduced to us when we're 15/16, and old enough to make a decision for ourselves, rather than being drilled into us at an age where we're too young to critically analyse such an idea.
Muchos respect to all opinions expressed so far. Nice to be having such an intelligent discussion.
I believe in things like God, good and evil as forces in the universe and within ourselves, and universal truths about existence, many of them that encompass more than just one religion. I don't hold anything against people that don't believe, although it gets tiring when I constantly read and hear about those people that ridicule people like me. For the most part I keep it just a personal thing and never feel the need to advertise the fact I believe or feel the need to prove something to somebody else because I don't need to.
In My mind,creation by God is easier to believe than evolution.--How are we to believe that many thousands of species all evolved from some slime in a pond?--Some single cell life evolved into all the species on earth?--All the different kinds of animals?--Lions,tigers,many races of humans,countless breeds of dogs,cats,bovines,fish,birds,reptiles,and all other creatures evolved and seperated from single cell life?--I find it hard to believe that elephants and sparrows have the same origin from one microscopic life source,as evolution suggests.---Go ahead,take Your shots at Me,but think about it.I know many are angry and hate the concept of God (Many of You have made that apparent),but many thousands of species coming from one microscopic simple life form?---Many creatures in the sea,many of all kinds on the land,and many in the air all evolved from the same single source of primitive life?---I find that even harder to believe than creationism.
I'm a Pagan,
I believe in Hecate,
mainly because I know a hot babe who does.
on my deathbed i will pray
to the gods and the angels
like a pagan to anyone
who will take me to heaven .
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I believe in Hecate,
mainly because I know a hot babe who does.
on my deathbed i will pray
to the gods and the angels
like a pagan to anyone
who will take me to heaven .
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Great answer, as I share much of the same feelings! I was brought up Roman Catholic, but started thinking for myself around the seventh grade. Religion was the first subject I didn't excel in, simply because i began questioning what we were being force-fed. . . and after personal experiences i have formulated my own ideas which don't follow what I was taught
I don't ridicule anyone, but I don't like people trying to say "I am right, you are wrong." So i agree, I usually keep it a personal matter as well, and its not a subject i like to discuss unless the person has an open mind and is willing to seriously listen.
to quite an extent, evolution has been proven to be true, and there are evolutionary theories out there that are very intriguing and possible that are being worked on. . .
when we see viruses and diseases adapt and change almost instantly in order to survive, why is it so hard to believe that it can happen on a much grander scale?! yet it is easier to believe that there is, and always was, one being that just happens to look EXACLTLY like us, made us, made everything else, etc?! I don't know what happened, but i won't rule it out simply because someone else said so years and years ago. . . maybe God created some things, and those things evolved into others
I believe in something, but i refuse to take things word for word. . . just like the fish that got away always gets bigger with each telling of the story, I think things got WAY out of hand in the writings of long ago.
So God just kills his creation he has made just because there is no good?? That's not the God I believe in at all. Another thing I find hard to believe is that there is a hell or a heaven..
I understand what u are trying to say completely.. The thing about the bible is that it doesnt make sense with science and evolution.. One thing i cant stand about some religious people is that they think evolution is bullshit when science proves that it is not.
pancha---Thanks for Your respectful responses.That doesn't happen too often around here lately.It is appreciated.--Sam
not a problem sammy. . . like i said, i only discuss this if people are willing to listen and at least hear the other perspectives. . . i enjoy it
your welcome, and thank you:thumbsup:
i agree.
don't get me wrong. i think for the most part, religions as a whole have the right "ideas", they just go about it the wrong way. perhaps its just those in leadership positions that steer it that way, who knows?!
I think as times change, you have to adapt. religion included.
The fact that you think creationism is more plausible than evolution is absurd.
Evolution is a foundational scientific truth, one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests. To reject this truth or to treat it as “one theory among others” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance.
I recommend that you educate yourself. You should start by reading a book like "The Selfish Gene" by Richard Dawkins. Then you should enroll yourself into either a college biology course or a college geology course.
Remember this, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Evolution is backed up by mountains of evidence. Creation is backed up by none.
The Theory of Creation is Proven True
by Fossil Records
http://www.nwcreation.net/articles/SCCS2004/engstrom.htm
by Fossil Records
http://www.nwcreation.net/articles/SCCS2004/engstrom.htm
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