disrespect for the american flag

Aloha all,
I was taught the American flag should not be worn as clothing or should never touch the ground. being as I'am a veteran I find Hanna Hilton's photo layout wrong as she is doing both. seeing that she is an American I think she would have been taught that as a child.I'am not saying that red and white stripes and blue field and stars on clothing or on a bikini is wrong as it is not made with 50 stars (hopefully a bikini is to small for that many stars) or that an American flag patch is wrong.clothing is one thing,but to use the American flag, is in my mind, WRONG!!!(just my 2 cents for whats it worth) Aloha.
 
It's a piece of cloth. That's all it is and that's all it ever will be. The Irish flag as an object means nothing to me. It's the ideal it represents that's important, and you can't make clothes out of that.
 
I've never really gotten this. What difference does it make if a person wears a piece of clothing with the representation of your flag on it? That piece of clothing and the flag itself is just a piece of fabric. Isnt the idea of the flag more important than the actual flag itself? And if someone chooses to wear the flag as a piece of clothing it shouldnt make a difference. I've also never gotten all the outrage that is shown to people who decide to burn the flag. They're burning a piece of fabric, they're not burning a piece of your country let whoever it is doing it get on with it and laugh at how petty they are for thinking that actually matters.

I know British and American mentalities are comepletely different on this, you guys are brought up to be far more patriotic than we are. That's fine, love your country no ones stopping you. But it's just a flag at the end of the day, a piece of fabric nothing more. It really doesnt mean anything.

But I've never been patriotic so I probably dont feel the same way about these issues as those that are.
 
The thing is, there's patriotism and there's the love of one's nation. European countries tend to be the exact opposite of what North Americans would deem "patriotic", but you ask a Frenchman, an Irishman or a Spaniard and they'll tell you they love their country. But things like criticising the government, protesting in the streets, these "unpatriotic" actions, that's par for the course in Europe. I think it's all a state of mind, really.
 

biomech

Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit
I am American and dont have a problem with "flag bikinis".
The only issue I have ever had is people burning the flag in protest, when Bush was in office people would burn the flag at protests.
I am not a GW fan, but I realize that the flag does not represent the sitting President.
It represents a set of ideals that this country was founded on, we have strayed from alot of these ideals, but I still respect the flag.
I have lost family members and dear friends in wars, to me the flag is more of a representation of those heroes. :2 cents: So she can wear it, just dont burn it. ;)
 
If an atractive woman where to drape herself in the flag of my country, I wouldn't find it disrespectfull at all. hovewer if a hideous woman where to do the same, I would consider it worse than to burn it!
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
i've never heard that it can't be worn as clothing.
put on the ground or burnt is a no no.

Many of you hate america motherfuckers might just consider it a piece of cloth so whats the big deal.
Well if some credent burns it, steps on it or drops it to the ground why should i care?
For me, it represents hard work and sacrifice, I know it may be a little corny.
Just remember millions of people in the past 245 years sacrificed their lives, children lost parents, parents lost sons and daughters others sacrificed and withstood incredible pain just in order for that flag to still be flown today, not to mention everything the country is and has today.

So me, if I see someone do that I can't deport them to a "better" country, but I can express my freedom of expression by kicking their teeth in.:thefinger
 
I don't think a flag means anything for a country, it's just a way to identify it. And to me it doesn't make a country what it is or what it stands for.
 
I don't know about the piece of cloth argument , but if I had to agree with any comment it would be that it is the ideals not the actual piece of cloth that matters. Now if it was the first American flag ever made by Betty Ross or the one flying in front of the white house then those flags should be considered as more than cloth but otherwise I don't get the uproar.
 

om3ga

It's good to be the king...
Sorry, but other glamour models and/or adult performers like LDM (below) has done the old "flag bikini" long before HH....:D



And I don't see any disrespect intended by any woman wearing a "flag bikini" - otherwise where will it all end? Banning Captain America, for example?
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
Aloha all,
I was taught the American flag should not be worn as clothing or should never touch the ground. being as I'am a veteran I find Hanna Hilton's photo layout wrong as she is doing both. seeing that she is an American I think she would have been taught that as a child.I'am not saying that red and white stripes and blue field and stars on clothing or on a bikini is wrong as it is not made with 50 stars (hopefully a bikini is to small for that many stars) or that an American flag patch is wrong.clothing is one thing,but to use the American flag, is in my mind, WRONG!!!(just my 2 cents for whats it worth) Aloha.

First of all, that is just a bunch of made-up bullshit that people decided to try and pass off as being disrespectful. In all reality, it's just bullshit that means absolutely nothing.

Secondly, American flags are mass produced items that are made in large factories (which, ironicially, employ mostly illegal immigrants), where I'm sure that plenty of "disrespectful" things are happening to the flags that we see in this country - flags falling on the ground, people touching a flag right after they scratched their dick but didn't wash their hands, people sneezing on the flags, etc.

Also, American flags are tightly folded and shoved into cheap plastic bags when they're sent off to stores for people to purchase. So, wearing the flag as clothing is bad, but shoving it into a plastic bag and putting it on store shelves next to paper plates and napkins isn't?

:dunno:

George Carlin said it best...

"At what point does all of this just break down and become a bunch of stupid shit that somebody made up?"
 
Aloha all,
I was taught the American flag should not be worn as clothing or should never touch the ground. being as I'am a veteran I find Hanna Hilton's photo layout wrong as she is doing both. seeing that she is an American I think she would have been taught that as a child.I'am not saying that red and white stripes and blue field and stars on clothing or on a bikini is wrong as it is not made with 50 stars (hopefully a bikini is to small for that many stars) or that an American flag patch is wrong.clothing is one thing,but to use the American flag, is in my mind, WRONG!!!(just my 2 cents for whats it worth) Aloha.

Doubtful that anyone is actually wearing the "Star Spangled Banner" as clothing but a mere print of it's design which is perfectly okay. Being a vet. you should know that the Ensign is proudly displayed on military uniforms (that's clothing)...what about lapel pins and ball caps adorning it's likeness?

"At ease" soldier. No flag desecration going on here.
 

biomech

Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit
Did you know proper destruction of tattered flag calls for burning it?

US Flag Code. TITLE 4 > CHAPTER 1 > Sec. 8(k). It states:

"The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning"
I think he meant by protestors.
 

Spleen

Banned?
Fucking hell, the ridiculous over Patriotism of US citizens is supposed to be just a stereotype...
 

Skyraider22

The One and Only Big Daddy
First off welcome to Freeones and it is what it stands for me because i will wear the American Flag as is I'mvery proud of that fact and i wear it to represent my country that is how i show it:2 cents:
 
US Flag Code. TITLE 4 > CHAPTER 1 > Sec. 8(k). It states:

"The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning"
I think he meant by protestors.

Well you'd be surprised how many alleged "patriots" don't know that proper, dignified destruction includes burning. Certainly as the original post I responded to said it shouldn't be "burnt", I thought it should be understood that in some cases it exactly should be burned.
 
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