Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords shot in head

:facepalm:

Pompous jackass.

Well of course America is stupid. Most Americans learn what they know by watching television. That includes watching talking heads like him. I watched that entire 4 minutes of drivel and I noticed that nothing positive (at all) came from it. What about spending that 4 minutes of time educating the public about what they don't know according to his statistics. Fuck no, he doesn't get paid for that. He gets paid to put down and ridicule.

Fuck him.


Dude,

He's spot-on and you know it.

And, I thought the 4 minutes (that nothing positive came from) was pretty impressive considering it took the Bush administration 8 years to accomplish as much (or as little).
 
Dude,

He's spot-on and you know it.

And, I thought the 4 minutes (that nothing positive came from) was pretty impressive considering it took the Bush administration 8 years to accomplish as much (or as little).

I like Maher, but he's just an Ivy-League elitist as far as I can tell and has no real touch with the "real world." He thinks every American can just scoop up 50 stacks and go buy a new electric car like him? Out of touch, sorry.

And also, when he finally gets a death threat because he finally grows a pair and insults that heathen religion of the Moon God, I will respect him a lot more. Until then, he just looks like a Jewish/Irish sissy.
 

Facetious

Moderated
I'm talking about political assassinations, specifically.
That's an interesting topic, one of which I'll have to explore in greater depth sometime, as in fact check ;)

Hey, at least you didn't neg rep me like that galatic butt-hole. :1orglaugh
Neg repping is not conducive to helping members resolve their differences.

:nono: :flame: :D
 
Well of course America is stupid. Most Americans learn what they know by watching television.

lol that's a bit racist. America is made up of every race from blacks, whites and Asians, etc. Are you saying that all these ethncities are stupid? Well after all, America did invent computers, internet, aircrafts, and cars.. just about every modern thing we use today and 80% of Nobel prize winners are American. They must be stupid! hahahahaha :D
 

Jon S.

Banned
Some updates that I'm not sure were addressed yet (I didn't see any posts anyway):

1. The 2nd "person of interest....new new phrase for SUSPECT" turned out to be a taxi driver who drove the perp (I won't legitimize his existence by addressing him by name) to the scene & he has been eliminated as having had any actual involvement.

2. It is being reported (by CNN anyway) that the perp was rejected by the military (that REALLY takes some doing) because he failed a drug test.

3. For any baseball fans out there, it turns out that the 9 year old girl who was killed was the granddaughter of former major league player & former Phillies, Cubs, and Mets manager Dallas Green!

I've always found it "amusing" how the extremist anti-abortion crowd has a problem with terminating "life" inside a womb, but they rarely have a problem with killing living and breathing people. To be perfectly honest, early in my ideology, I was against abortion as a form of birth control. Now, that was in my mid-teens. However, they lost me when they took it to the extreme of no abortions ever!!! Not even in the case of rape, incest, or anything! It's funny how people have strong views about things that don't affect them in the slightest! It's also funny how the extremists aren't exactly beating down any doors to adopt the many unwanted children that exist. I always said, let that be their wife or daughter who got pregnant through a rape & we'll see how quickly their opinion changes....funny how things work that way. I have been pro-choice ever since! Just like former PA Atorney General Ernie Preate was a tough on crime AG, he got busted for taking graft from an illegal video poker ring, did his time, now he's......you guessed it....a prisoner's rights advocate of all things! Like I said.....funny how things work out that way!
 

Jon S.

Banned
lol that's a bit racist. America is made up of every race from blacks, whites and Asians, etc. Are you saying that all these ethncities are stupid? Well after all, America did invent computers, internet, aircrafts, and cars.. just about every modern thing we use today and 80% of Nobel prize winners are American. They must be stupid! hahahahaha :D

First of all, I am an unapologetic elitist who likes Bill Maher & can actually talk and relate to people from all walks of life! Second of all, I don't think that I am smarter than, and know more than anyone. I KNOW that I am smarter & know more than the vast majority of people! That is something that I am proud of! I can formulate MY OWN opinions, I am capable of rational thought & reasoning ability, and I can back my opinions up! I do respect opinions that differ from mine, but only when people can actually back their opinions up. Finally, I am not afraid to speak up when I disagree with someone (though I am growing to realize that too often it is a waste of time, because you can't reason with people who lack the ability to reason.....and often don't know why they think something to begin with). Sadly, too often people are spoonfed "their" opinions, and in reality they can't even back them up.....because they don't even really know what they ate saying! I have been tested, and my IQ is in the genius range, and I am a proud member of MENSA! Does that mean I won't sit down and drink a beer with someone? Though I am not a big drinker, I would sit down for a beer with someone.....I just wouldn't want to be led by someone I would want as a drinking buddy.....see the poll they did during the two Bush campaigns.......ha ha ha!

I'm not sure where Bill Maher went to school, but I went to Penn State, and graduated with a 3.98 GPA (ok, I'm not perfect, and I NEVER claim to be, I got 2 A-'s my 1st semester.....but all A's the rest of the way!). However, depending on their grades, I would certainly respect someone with an Ivy League education! Now people such as George W. Bush, and John Kerry, who were C students at Ivy League institutions are harder to respect because that is like a D or F student at a "lesser" institution. It would be hard for someone to not see that George W. Bush isn't exactly the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree!

As for Americans being stupid......I believe our actions speak for themselves! You cite the few exceptions as evidence to the contrary. Of course there are smart people in America, I like to believe I am one of them! However, it is hard to argue against the fact that the majority of Americans (regardless of race) are not exactly bright, and they tend to be poorly educated. Much of the problem is based in upbringing & opportunity. The other factors are genetics, and effort to become educated. Based on where I grew up, not factoring in genetics, I should be a poorly educated, a right winger, a racist, and a hypocritical religious nut! I am none of those things, thankfully!

Did Americans invent a number of important things? Of course we did! Where are they made today & who profits mainly from those inventions today? Well it sure as Hell isn't America and Americans! Sadly, today most Americans are underqualified to do a job where the hardest thing is asking if you "want fries with that" For fun, I took the citizenship test that immigrants (you know, those dirty undesirables who are milking our great nation dry.....too much sarcasm?) take to become US citizens. I passed with flying colors! However, I guarantee 95% of our flag waving, apple pie Americans would FLUNK in flying colors (red, white, and blue.....and all other colors too). Instead of learning things, too many Americans are too busy denying science FACT, believing in fairy tales, watching mindless drivel that passes as "reality" tv, making celebrities out of people who lack any decernible talents, building up would be politicians who clearly lack intelligence, taking their marching orders from ENTERTAINERS who pass themselves off as conservatives (for pay), remaking or rebooting every movie under the sun (even tv shows now....hello Hawaii Five-O) because we lack any ORIGINAL ideas. Christ, even the porn "industry" is making parodies of everything under the sun too! When fuck and suck films run out of ideas and they have to resort to "stealing" ideas from Hollywood.....then my friends....Houston, we have a problem (Hell I figured I might as well get into the act)! I guess it isn't a coincidence that the same writers who wrote for I Love Lucy in the 50's, were still writing for shows in the 90's! I guess they died, and all ORIGINAL ideas died with them! My God, they are making a movie based on the game Battleship.......BATTLESHIP!!!! Have we sunk low enough yet?

And I believe the days of America bring the leader on the breakthrough front are numbered too, in large part due to our reliance on fairy tales! Stem cell research is an area that I see major medical breakthroughs coming out of! Due to all of the stink being raised by the religious right, it will be other nations that give humanity it's next treatments & cures! Sadly, it seems like many Americans are content with saying we are #1 based on things we did 50+ years ago, and the belief that standing during the National Anthem at sporting events makes you an uber Patriot......even if they couldn't even pass the citizenship test!
 

Jon S.

Banned
^^^ I meant to add this to the above post, but the ten minute time limit to edit expired. So here is my ending to the above post:

Do we need any other evidence that Americans are dumb as a whole than the fact that President Theodore Roosevelt took the initiative to dumb down the English language because Americans had trouble spelling behaviour & criticise....so they were changed to behavior & criticize (the way they sound) for example! And that was over 100 years ago! I believe one would be hardpressed to argue that we (as a whole) haven't gotten dumber since then! Hell, we even abondoned switching to the metric system because too many of us are too stupid to understand a system that actually has some reasoning behind it.....it's based on 10 for God's sake! We are willing to give up our liberties at a drop of a hat (I thought they were precious). We "re-elected" Bush after we knew what we had! New Orleans re-elected Ray Nagin after they knew what they had! How much more evidence do you need that, by and large, Americans are dumb?

Personally, I will never understand why, seemingly in America anyway, that being smart, intelligent, &/or educated is seemingly something that is looked down upon, scorned, or something that should bring shame! I am proud of my intellect and education, and I will never hide it, much less apologize for it!

Fact of the matter is that some people don't like Bill Maher because deep down they know he speaks the truth, and, as we all know, often the truth hurts, and it isn't often a that popular either.....but it's still just that.........THE TRUTH! Instead of debating it & bitching about it, we should be striving to change for the better.......but sadly too many of us are content with more of the same!
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Some updates that I'm not sure were addressed yet (I didn't see any posts anyway):

1. The 2nd "person of interest....new new phrase for SUSPECT" turned out to be a taxi driver who drove the perp (I won't legitimize his existence by addressing him by name) to the scene & he has been eliminated as having had any actual involvement.

2. It is being reported (by CNN anyway) that the perp was rejected by the military (that REALLY takes some doing) because he failed a drug test.

3. For any baseball fans out there, it turns out that the 9 year old girl who was killed was the granddaughter of former major league player & former Phillies, Cubs, and Mets manager Dallas Green!

Thanks for that update. I hadn't heard any of that. The only thing I'd heard was that Loughner was booted out of a community(?) college because they felt he presented a threat to others.

With a criminal record and obvious mental health problems, I'm still trying to understand how he wasn't red flagged by the system when he tried to buy that weapon. Had he never been treated for mental health problems? Were none of his crimes violent or related to domestic violence?
 

Jon S.

Banned
Thanks for that update. I hadn't heard any of that. The only thing I'd heard was that Loughner was booted out of a community(?) college because they felt he presented a threat to others.

With a criminal record and obvious mental health problems, I'm still trying to understand how he wasn't red flagged by the system when he tried to buy that weapon. Had he never been treated for mental health problems? Were none of his crimes violent or related to domestic violence?

I heard on one news report that of the nearly 120,000 people Arizona has in it's Mental Health Data Base, only about 4% of them were actually submitted to a Federal Data Base that would have flagged him & prevented him from buying the gun! However, as of the report, it was not yet known if the perp was even in the large statewide data base or not, but clearly he sadly was not flagged in the data base that mattered, the Federal one! Additionally, it was still unknown whether or not he had undergone any psychiatric treatment of any kind.
 

Christina Ryder

Official Checked Star Member
I know it's terrible! I am amazed that the congress woman is still alive. She obviously still has a purpose here:) I was so glad to hear that she made it!
 

xfire

New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
That's an interesting topic, one of which I'll have to explore in greater depth sometime, as in fact check ;)

I don't understand why conservatives take issue with that Loughner kid being described as a far-right lunatic. If I had described him as a typical republican voter I could see why conservatives might be upset.


Neg repping is not conducive to helping members resolve their differences.

:nono: :flame: :D

Totally agree. The only people I've gotten neg-rep from are notorious bawbags that apparently never learned to play well with others. Using neg rep to illustrate dislike for another member is stupid. If a berk has a problem with me they ought to drop me a line and explain why.

:hatsoff:
 
As it stands now I say 80% chance this was a staged event. The shooter exhibits all the signs of mind control.

MK Ultra. They wanted Judge Roll dead, he was one of the best judges out there. Notice they barely mention Judge Roll. Also she was an excellent Congresswoman and they wanted her out too because she was doing such a good job for the people and wasn't corrupted.

http://www.infowars.com/arizona-assassin-obsessed-with-mind-control/

http://www.mindspring.com/~txporter/sec3.htm

:rofl2:
 

Supafly

Retired Mod
Bronze Member
As it stands now I say 80% chance this was a staged event. The shooter exhibits all the signs of mind control.

MK Ultra. They wanted Judge Roll dead, he was one of the best judges out there. Notice they barely mention Judge Roll. Also she was an excellent Congresswoman and they wanted her out too because she was doing such a good job for the people and wasn't corrupted.

http://www.infowars.com/arizona-assassin-obsessed-with-mind-control/

http://www.mindspring.com/~txporter/sec3.htm

As much as I try to appreciate members around here, you just disqualify yourself, just by your nickname.

Seriously, you define yourself over the 9/11 incident, which you do think is a government job.

It looks like you are doing your best to get on the maximum number of ignore lists.
 
The attempts by Democrats and the liberal faction of the MSM to pin this on the Tea Party, Sarah Palin or conservatives has backfired. This is a repeat of what they tried to do following the Times Square incident coverage.
 
As it stands now I say 80% chance this was a staged event. The shooter exhibits all the signs of mind control.

MK Ultra. They wanted Judge Roll dead, he was one of the best judges out there. Notice they barely mention Judge Roll. Also she was an excellent Congresswoman and they wanted her out too because she was doing such a good job for the people and wasn't corrupted.

http://www.infowars.com/arizona-assassin-obsessed-with-mind-control/

http://www.mindspring.com/~txporter/sec3.htm

They would have to identify the guy before they could initiate mind-control techniques right? Unless they have some kind of broad cues they put out in the media that are designed for people with schizophrenia to pick up on.
 

Facetious

Moderated
The attempts by Democrats and the liberal faction of the MSM to pin this on the Tea Party, Sarah Palin or conservatives has backfired. This is a repeat of what they tried to do following the Times Square incident coverage.

Isn't it disgusting how they would use such an unfortunate turn of events in order to boost their political leverage?

Giffords is the exact type of political figure we need in this country! The more I read about her, the more I realize how bad we've been screwed in my district.

Get well soon, Ms. Bluedog!
We wish her a speedy and very complete
recovery. :glugglug::kiss:
 
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