Are you for abortion or against?

Are you for or against abortion

  • Yes

    Votes: 60 73.2%
  • No

    Votes: 15 18.3%
  • Unsure

    Votes: 7 8.5%

  • Total voters
    82
What about in the cases where birth control WAS used but failed? Do you think that women should get the right to abort if they've essentially done everything right but the birth control failed them?

If they used birth control and failed then yeah I don't see a problem with that,just those that think abortion is a form of birth control
 

Jon S.

Banned
If they used birth control and failed then yeah I don't see a problem with that,just those that think abortion is a form of birth control

I used to think that way too. However, upon reflection, I came to realize that by denying someone an abortion, then you essentially create one of two situations. One, another unwanted baby (to an unfit mother) is born into the world, or, two, someone is forced to seek out a "back alley" abortion where the woman's life is endangered also. I believe something Spexy suggested earlier in the thread is the most equitable approach. One is allowed to have an abortion, but when you reach your limit (I believe she suggested two), then you are forced to undergo surgery (tubes tied, etc.), so that pregnancy is no longer a problem for said person ever again! I believe, based upon a pattern of behavior that clearly demonstrates that someone is truly irresponsible with their own body, such action would be more than justified! As such, I believe that approach would work better! I mean, is a born, yet unwanted child something that should be desired by society?
 
Yeah its a Catch-22 position, you don't wanna make it an 'easy out' for those who are irresponsible when it comes to sex but you also don't want these people going to a back alley abortion or worst trying to do something on themselves which would cause the person to be hospitalized and cost much more than what an abortion would of costed cause much more mental distress
 
One thing I will say...if I were to get a girl pregnant, I would do everything possible to convince her not to have an abortion. As much as I don't want any kids, I'd much rather have one than go through the abortion process.

How about you guys?
 
I'm for that shit. Fuck kids. We don't need more greedy, whining, spoiled little assholes running around.

If people want to make it illegal, then people should have to have a minimum I.Q and salary. They also have to take and pass a parenting course and drug tests.
 
One thing I will say...if I were to get a girl pregnant, I would do everything possible to convince her not to have an abortion. As much as I don't want any kids, I'd much rather have one than go through the abortion process.

How about you guys?

What's so bad about the abortion process? I've been through it. As a man, you drive her to the hospital and wait a few hours in an uncomfy chair reading old magazines. When she's done you drive her to your place, feed her and let her recover. I'd rather do that than be broke and miserable for the next 20 years.
 
Additionally, many people constantly talk about wanting a separation of church and state. If your religious views are entirely separate, there is no justification for denying abortions to consenting adults.

There are atheists and agnostics who are firmly pro-life. Also, when I talk to people about the subject, it's very rare that religion comes up on either side. It comes down to what you consider life, and that differs from person to person despite religious affiliation.

Personally, I am pro-choice. I used to say that I'm morally against it, but legally pro-choice, but I think that's a bit condescending and unfair. It's extremely easy for me to pretend it's some moral argument when I run zero risk of ever getting pregnant. I never have to worry about a broken condom, a rape or ineffective birth control prescription resulting in a tiny life growing in my abdomen.

I'm glad abortion is a legal option. I can't imagine how much worse off this country would be if every unwanted pregnancy bore a child which would eventually become an adult. And, while it sickens me to hear that there are people like Kacey Jordan who have had four abortions, it also sickens me to imagine she didn't have them. This country is already full of neglected and abused children who'll never get a fair shot at life. To mandate the expansion of that seems downright evil.
 

SpexyAshleigh

Official Checked Star Member
This, by the way, is WAY more common than people realize.

Yup. All of my nieces and nephews were concieved while their mother was on the Depo shot. My youngest brother was concieved while my mom was on the pill. I've had friends who've gotten pregnant on the pill, while using it correctly. I've personally had two condoms break in my lifetime, thankfully none of which resulted in pregnancy because I had enough brain to head to the ER and get the morning after pill. It happens ALL the time. The only way to avoid pregnancy is to avoid fucking, and that is unrealistic...so if an accident happens while you were practicing safe sex, abortion is a fair option.
 
Yup. All of my nieces and nephews were concieved while their mother was on the Depo shot. My youngest brother was concieved while my mom was on the pill. I've had friends who've gotten pregnant on the pill, while using it correctly. I've personally had two condoms break in my lifetime, thankfully none of which resulted in pregnancy because I had enough brain to head to the ER and get the morning after pill. It happens ALL the time. The only way to avoid pregnancy is to avoid fucking, and that is unrealistic...so if an accident happens while you were practicing safe sex, abortion is a fair option.

Someone close to me got pregnant while on the pill. She was 19 and had been on it since 15. A few weeks after conception she started feeling ill and, thankfully, went to her doctor. That's when she found out.
 
Ever heard of adoption? There's a long list of people waiting to adopt, and meanwhile, they have no issue with importing kids from some Third World shithole somewhere. There are other options than just the "black" and "white" - keep or destroy.
 
Of course. If you don't have a vagina, cervix, etc, shut up.
 

LadyMira

Official Checked Star Member
Against mostly. I'm all for birth control, condoms and all that of course. And in cases of incest, rape, serious birth defects/ health issues, dire poverty & highly irresponsible 14 year old girls, of course it should be an option. A human fetus deserves rights.
 
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