Are you for abortion or against?

[SpexyAshleigh]

I'm pro choice. However, I feel in order for our society to be responsible in giving out abortions, they should implement a system where a woman only is allowed two abortions, and if she comes back for a third, they just tie up her tubes. Abortion shouldn't be used as a form of birth control, and while I'm pro-choice, I feel that women shouldn't have the right to procreate and continually abuse the system like that. Especially here in Canada, where abortions are free.

 

[vodkazvictim]

I'm in favour of abortion where it makes sense, and so are all the men I raped and impregnated.
That's right; I'm so manly I knock men up. :yesyes:

 

[Jon S.]

I'm in favour of abortion where it makes sense, and so are all the men I raped and impregnated.
That's right; I'm so manly I knock men up. :yesyes:

Would that be real men, or transgendered "men"? Because, I remember when the media made a big deal about a woman...who was now a "man," who got pregnant 2 times! A WOMAN can get pregnant....who knew!?!? Ha ha ha!

 

[Jon S.]

I'm pro choice. However, I feel in order for our society to be responsible in giving out abortions, they should implement a system where a woman only is allowed two abortions, and if she comes back for a third, they just tie up her tubes. Abortion shouldn't be used as a form of birth control, and while I'm pro-choice, I feel that women shouldn't have the right to procreate and continually abuse the system like that. Especially here in Canada, where abortions are free.

I wholeheartedly agree!!! The belief that some people use abortions as a form of birth control after the fact was a major reason why I was initially against it when I was younger. For the reasons I already mentioned in an earlier post...I later became pro-choice however. I wouldn't have any problem with the idea you proposed...it's pretty good really. I also believe there should be a way to prevent people from even getting pregnant before they meet certain basic standards for being able to support and care for said child/children. There are already implants that can be inserted (in the shoulder area I believe), that can work as a form of long-term birth control. I know no such system would be fool proof...but, hey...it's a start! That would likely even reduce the need for abortions as well!

 

[rayman53x]

I'm not for or against.
Its the girls personal decision to abort, and as a guy you have to put up with it

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

I stand with Justin Bieber on this one:

http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?t=487127&highlight=abortion

:tongue:

Yes, no unsure?

If you'd like, some of these could use a bump:

http://board.freeones.com/search.php?searchid=42967868

 

[O85]

Children don't ask to be brought into the world, a world that may be extremely tough and/or dangerous for them which could subsequently ruin their lives, so if the parent has made the mistake of becoming pregnant and is aware of these factors then I see no reason to oppose an abortion.

 

[grower_boy]

I support a woman's right to have an abortion, despite the fact that it is a very sad thing. The government should have nothing to do with what people can do with their bodies.

 

[Facetious]

I'm pro choice for elective procedures up to the first trimester, after that fuck no! selfish scums!...

 

[SpexyAshleigh]

I wholeheartedly agree!!! The belief that some people use abortions as a form of birth control after the fact was a major reason why I was initially against it when I was younger. For the reasons I already mentioned in an earlier post...I later became pro-choice however. I wouldn't have any problem with the idea you proposed...it's pretty good really. I also believe there should be a way to prevent people from even getting pregnant before they meet certain basic standards for being able to support and care for said child/children. There are already implants that can be inserted (in the shoulder area I believe), that can work as a form of long-term birth control. I know no such system would be fool proof...but, hey...it's a start! That would likely even reduce the need for abortions as well!

Yes, hormonal implantation, as well as IUD's are a good, semi-longterm solution to preventing pregnancy, however not all women are candidates. Myself included. My body can't handle the hormones, and I get very ill from taking any form of birth control, and I know many women are the same.

Women who are stupid enough to get pregnant more than a couple times though, SHOULD be neutered. I don't care IF they might want kids one day, if you aren't responsible enough with your body and your sex life to prevent pregnancy while you aren't capable of having a child, then you shouldn't be having sex at all. Sex comes with a responsibility, one that not many people take too seriously.

But then again, I believe that most of the general population should be sterilized. Most people shouldn't be parents, and most of the children born aren't born into ideal situations. Really really sad.

 

[Jon S.]

Yes, hormonal implantation, as well as IUD's are a good, semi-longterm solution to preventing pregnancy, however not all women are candidates. Myself included. My body can't handle the hormones, and I get very ill from taking any form of birth control, and I know many women are the same.

Women who are stupid enough to get pregnant more than a couple times though, SHOULD be neutered. I don't care IF they might want kids one day, if you aren't responsible enough with your body and your sex life to prevent pregnancy while you aren't capable of having a child, then you shouldn't be having sex at all. Sex comes with a responsibility, one that not many people take too seriously.

But then again, I believe that most of the general population should be sterilized. Most people shouldn't be parents, and most of the children born aren't born into ideal situations. Really really sad.

I was aware that some weren't candidates for the types of implantation that currently exist. I did not know how widespread those who could not use it was however. That's why I would advocate creating a better and more effective implantation technology that a wider (if not virtually all) portion of the population could use. I'd even advocate the creation of a male implant...if enough men would be responsible enough to use it...wouldn't hold my breath on that one though!

In summation, I totally agree with you! The whole idea that childbirth and motherhood is somehow glorious just feeds the whole "baby mill society." Childbirth and motherhood might be glorious...BUT, only when one is mature, responsible, and secure (financially and mentally) enough to handle the responsibilities that come with it! Sadly, too often people who don't even have the ability to take control of their own lives end up bringing more lives into the world! Like you said...Really, really sad indeed!

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

I believe that most of the general population should be sterilized. Most people shouldn't be parents, and most of the children born aren't born into ideal situations. Really really sad.

You should start in India, China, and Africa, where almost HALF of the human race exists (most likely not because they are the brightest bunch on the block). Just sayin'...

 

[Jon S.]

You should start in India, China, and Africa, where almost HALF of the human race exists (most likely not because they are the brightest bunch on the block).

In China (China and India alone make up about 40-50% of the world's population), they actually do have a "one child" policy (in an effort to control population growth). However, from what I understand, they have all kinds of problems with actually enforcing it.

 

[SpexyAshleigh]

You should start in India, China, and Africa, where almost HALF of the human race exists (most likely not because they are the brightest bunch on the block). Just sayin'...

I agree, population control should exist everywhere in the world. Thing is though, in alot of the countries you mentioned, birth control is usually hard to come by or not available. Thats why there are so many children being born. Here in North America, we have dozens of options of birth control, yet our idiocy still allows us to get pregnant. We should just ship all our birth control over to the countries who don't have it available, because despite our education and free and readily available birth control, most of us sure don't know how to use it properly.

In China (China and India alone make up about 40-50% of the world's population), they actually do have a "one child" policy (in an effort to control population growth). However, from what I understand, they have all kinds of problems with actually enforcing it.

Its enforced pretty well from what I understand- the trouble is, is that boys are preferred. So if a couple gives birth to a baby girl, its usually given away to an orphanage, so that they can try again for a boy. Thats why their orphanages are overfilled with little girls, and why the population control doesn't work. Because if you don't get what you want the first, second, third, fourth time around...you're allowed to just toss your child away and try again. Complete BS. They used to have "dying rooms"...probably still do in alot of parts, where little baby girls would be given up and essentially left to die, in an attempt to control population. Obviously not the solution either.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

I agree, population control should exist everywhere in the world. Thing is though, in alot of the countries you mentioned, birth control is usually hard to come by or not available. Thats why there are so many children being born. Here in North America, we have dozens of options of birth control, yet our idiocy still allows us to get pregnant. We should just ship all our birth control over to the countries who don't have it available, because despite our education and free and readily available birth control, most of us sure don't know how to use it properly.

The West is not at fault for the soon-to-be seven billion on earth; that's the reason people argue all the time that the "browning of America" and Europe is only right because Europeans and North Americans aren't making ENOUGH babies.

We in the West are small fries when it comes to the world's ills. My advice: start where the majority of the cancer is: the abovementioned hell holes. :2 cents:

Just sayin'.

 

[Jon S.]

The West is not at fault for the soon-to-be seven billion on earth; that's the reason people argue all the time that the "browning of America" and Europe is only right because Europeans and North Americans aren't making ENOUGH babies.

We in the West are small fries when it comes to the world's ills. My advice: start where the majority of the cancer is: the abovementioned hell holes. :2 cents:

Just sayin'.

The only problem with the West, and the United States in particular, is that: though we make up a small fraction of the world's population (around 5%), we use a hugely disproportionate amount of the world's resources (around 40% I believe) and create a disproportionate amount of the world's waste! That is in where the problem lies! The only two places I would really want to live are Canada and the United States (never been to Europe though), but that doesn't mean that I don't believe that we (the United States in particular) do not need to strive to be more responsible!

 

[SpexyAshleigh]

The West is not at fault for the soon-to-be seven billion on earth; that's the reason people argue all the time that the "browning of America" and Europe is only right because Europeans and North Americans aren't making ENOUGH babies.

We in the West are small fries when it comes to the world's ills. My advice: start where the majority of the cancer is: the abovementioned hell holes. :2 cents:

Just sayin'.

Yeah but China, India, all of the countries you mentioned, and countless others have been inhabited and growing in population for centuries longer than we North Americans have. Milleniums longer. They've got a head start on us in a huge way. So it makes sense that they're overpopulated. And factor in the fact that for the last, I dunno, half century...or longer, we've had access to birth control and they haven't.

And I dunno, I kinda like that we're not overpopulated. I'm in Canada so, obviously we have like 1/10th of the population of the US, and I like it that way. Obviously things will change eventually...but we have alot of catching up to do, which I'm' not exactly in a rush to do. I think we, as a population over here, are still having way too many babies. Time to slow down on the birthing rate, and start adopting some of the children that already exist all over the world that don't have parents to love them and give them opportunities.

 

[Jon S.]

What's always amused me is the fact that one needs a license to drive a car (legally that is...ha ha ha!)...but to have a kid (naturally)...all you need to have is working "plumbing"! Kinda puts things into perspective when you think about it!

 

[busaguy79]

I'm yes and no, i'm not for girls getting it because they are not on any birth control and let guys fuck them bareback and cum inside them but i'm for it when a woman is raped or the baby is going to be born with problems that will cause it not to have a good quality of life and if there is a risk to the life of the mother

 

[SpexyAshleigh]

I'm yes and no, i'm not for girls getting it because they are not on any birth control and let guys fuck them bareback and cum inside them but i'm for it when a woman is raped or the baby is going to be born with problems that will cause it not to have a good quality of life and if there is a risk to the life of the mother

What about in the cases where birth control WAS used but failed? Do you think that women should get the right to abort if they've essentially done everything right but the birth control failed them?