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bobjustbob
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The Kevin Ward Jr. death. How ugly can it possibly get?
Rey C.
Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Very true. That was just weird. And especially since it was the guy who ran over him (Tony Stewart) who popularized being a dumbass by walking onto a hot track to show your displeasure with another driver.
For those who haven't heard, NASCAR driver Tony Stewart ran over another driver he'd been battling with after the other guy got out of his sprint car and walked onto the track... killing him instantly. [NOBABE]The kid[/NOBABE] was a total dumbass for walking out onto the track. But if reports that Stewart accelerated as he approached Ward prove true, he *could be* facing criminal charges. We'll see what happens.
Dirt-track racer hit by Tony Stewart died of 'massive blunt trauma'
bobjustbob
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I don't see how even the biggest asshole in racing would consider hitting a pedestrian on purpose. I don't know much about dirt racing but it was a half mile track. Not one of those Daytona things that they race 4 across in 2 mile loops. It's the size of a small harness racing track. Only 8 horses fit across it. That's tight for cars to negotiate. They must be going at least 60mph so the loop is less than a minute. The car was on the wall just out of the first turn and Ward was in the middle of the track. Not much room coming out of that turn and now seeing someone in the middle of the track. What the fuck was he thinking walking around out there?
I only saw this incident in isolation and know nothing about the drivers' history and tendencies but walking on the track to show your frustration to another driver is not a wise move. Have it out with him after the race... Surely it is not only driving practice but common sense to get the hell out of there once your car has been totalled / broken down? He lost his head and paid the ultimate price. As for the driver that hit him, it's a difficult one... you simply don't expect to find yourself having to negotiate people walking across the track! I highly doubt he took him out deliberately. By the time he saw him it was probably too late.
Rey C.
Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
I'm not a Tony Stewart fan, as I've always thought of him as giant asshole... very talented, but still a giant asshole. But even as a giant asshole, it's hard for me to imagine that he would actually hit the guy on purpose. But now, I could see him hitting the gas and trying to scare the shit out of the guy... kinda like playing chicken. Did he try to do that and the guy zigged when Stewart thought he would zag? I'm not saying that's what happened. I don't know. But now more stories are coming out that are not in Stewart's favor.
Tony Stewart crash that killed Kevin Ward was avoidable, says racer Paul Kinney
Tony Stewart crash that killed Kevin Ward was avoidable, says racer Paul Kinney
Well, it's an interesting one. The only thing I would say that I forgot to mention in my previous post is that it did look slightly odd to me when I first saw it... not what I was expecting. Only watched it twice I think... but it's not exactly the kind of thing you want to watch over and over...
It's incidents like this where on-board cameras and telemetry would come in handy to see if there were any sudden movements/accelerations/attempts to avoid him! It's kinda inconclusive from the angle I saw, which as far as I'm aware is the only one available(?).
Still, very difficult to believe someone could do that to a fellow racer, no matter how high tensions may have been between them.
It's incidents like this where on-board cameras and telemetry would come in handy to see if there were any sudden movements/accelerations/attempts to avoid him! It's kinda inconclusive from the angle I saw, which as far as I'm aware is the only one available(?).
Still, very difficult to believe someone could do that to a fellow racer, no matter how high tensions may have been between them.
alexpnz
Lord Dipstick
2 Bottom lines here:
1)That kid shouldn't have gotten out of the car.....PERIOD!
Those fucking cars are all over the track and hard to control.
He just wanted to make a name for himself by going after a NASCAR legend like Stewart.
It was a deadly, bad decision.
2) Tony Stewart has no business driving these go-karts at these hick tracks on his day off.
I don't care how much he likes to drive. Nothing good can come of him driving against these amateurs and this is the worst kind of example of it.
He's worth millions and is a part owner of his race team and is too important to subject himself to shit like this.
You don't see Jimmie Johnson or Jeff Gordon driving as much as a Bumper car on their off days, do ya?
No, because they are corporations unto themselves and thousands of people depend on them to make their livings.
Plus, Rick Hendrick......I'm sure, has it in their contracts that they can't,
Smoke=Not Guilty
1)That kid shouldn't have gotten out of the car.....PERIOD!
Those fucking cars are all over the track and hard to control.
He just wanted to make a name for himself by going after a NASCAR legend like Stewart.
It was a deadly, bad decision.
2) Tony Stewart has no business driving these go-karts at these hick tracks on his day off.
I don't care how much he likes to drive. Nothing good can come of him driving against these amateurs and this is the worst kind of example of it.
He's worth millions and is a part owner of his race team and is too important to subject himself to shit like this.
You don't see Jimmie Johnson or Jeff Gordon driving as much as a Bumper car on their off days, do ya?
No, because they are corporations unto themselves and thousands of people depend on them to make their livings.
Plus, Rick Hendrick......I'm sure, has it in their contracts that they can't,
Smoke=Not Guilty
Good post except that people fail to realize that Tony Stewart races at these tracks to help promote that kind of racing. Himself and Kasey Kahne take the time to visit and race at these small tracks because they understand how important every dollar earned and every butt in the seat is critical to the tracks survival.
And of course he's not guilty of anything is just stupid to even speculate.
Well, I've been wanting to give Nico the benefit of the doubt up until now but you have to say you have to be more that a little suspicious of his antics this season. At the time of the Monaco qualifying incident, I thought it was simply a mistake at the time and have held onto that belief for quite some time. I didn't think anything of this latest incident either at the time, and put it down as just a racing incident that was bound to happen sooner or later if they were still being allowed to race each other. However, the comments and storm that has erupted after the race don't paint him in a good light.
I've not wanted to believe any of the cynical views on Rosberg as I didn't have him down as "that type of driver / person". I don't think he's ever done anything in Formula 1 prior to this season to make be question his integrity. I've always held him in high regard.
He has been brilliant this season, and exceeded everyone's expectation - however he has benefited from an enormous amount of luck as far as the battle with Lewis is concerned, and he actually would seem to be resorting to dishonorable measures to get the upper hand as well. It's looks as if he is adopting a "win at all costs attitude". You could argue that that's what F1 greats have had as part of the make-up but nobody really wants to see that kind of behavior. We want to see a fair, straight fight.
Having a hard time computing this as I'm having to change my entire opinion of him. Say it ain't so...
I don't doubt that Lewis & Nico have held a good friendship over the years (in fact you could clearly see it post-Bahrain), and yes it is true when people say you can't remain true friends as competitors... but this has taken things way beyond that.
This complete break-down in relations makes you wonder how they can continue to be team-mates past this season and how Mercedes can continue to operate as a team.
It would make for an interesting shake up it the drivers market. In fact, at the moment I'd say that Red Bull is the only team that is nailed on to keep the same driver line-up for next year.
With nothing official to say otherwise, I say Vettel is joining the Nissan LMP1 squad 
Rey C.
Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Rumors of Honda signing Alonso over Ron Dennis' head and even being behind a move to oust Dennis from McLaren and replace him with Gerhard Berger (a former McLaren and Ferrari man) are circulating still. This is set to be the silliest of silly seasons!!! No more Montezemolo at Ferrari. No more Alonso at Ferrari. And Ferrari (the main company) about to be spun off in an IPO. What happens with the racing team and how will it be funded... since it's a separate entity?
IndyCar schedule released for 2015
http://www.indycar.com/News/2014/10/10-30-INDYCAR-announces-2015-schedule
http://www.indycar.com/News/2014/10/10-30-INDYCAR-announces-2015-schedule
At least there's a printable schedule there. Trying to print the IMSA schedule would waste 5-6 pages and Nascar wasn't much better.
Back to Indycar: It took a few years but they finally got to a decent schedule that ends (Sonoma on Aug 30) before NFL starts which beats everything else on Sundays.
Toyota Racing took its second consecutive FIA World Endurance Championship 1-2 finish at Shanghai today with the #8 Toyota TS 040 Hybrid heading home the #7 car to further extend the championship lead to 42pts. Anthony Davidson and Sebastien Buemi finished the race 1m12s ahead of their stable mates – Alex Wurz, Stephane Sarrazin and Kazuki Nakajima, after another dominant display by the Japanese manufacturer in front of a huge crowd.
G-Drive Racing scored a conclusive victory in LMP2 with Olivier Pla, Roman Rusinov and Julien Canal further reducing the championship points deficit to just eight. Sergey Zlobin finished third on track but second in the points in the #27 SMP Racing Oreca-Nissan along with team mates Nicolas Minassian and Maurizio Mediani. Taking a very creditable runner-up position was the Tequila Patron-backed car #30 Extreme Speed Motorsports HPD LMP2 car of Ryan Dalziel, Scott Sharp and Ricardo Gonzalez although, as a single-race entrant, the team does not score points.
Porsche Team Manthey took a 1-2 finish in the LMGTE Pro category after a trouble-free run, and Aston Martin Racing celebrated its third consecutive 1-2 result in the Am class. This result ensures that Aston Martin Racing cannot be caught in the FIA Endurance Trophy for LMGTE Am Teams although it won’t be known until at least Bahrain if it will be the No.95 or No.98 which finishes on top.
http://www.fiawec.com/en/news/david...nclusive-win-at-6-hours-of-shanghai_2573.html
http://www.fiawec.com/en/news/porsc...-gte-double-in-6-hours-of-shanghai-_2572.html
G-Drive Racing scored a conclusive victory in LMP2 with Olivier Pla, Roman Rusinov and Julien Canal further reducing the championship points deficit to just eight. Sergey Zlobin finished third on track but second in the points in the #27 SMP Racing Oreca-Nissan along with team mates Nicolas Minassian and Maurizio Mediani. Taking a very creditable runner-up position was the Tequila Patron-backed car #30 Extreme Speed Motorsports HPD LMP2 car of Ryan Dalziel, Scott Sharp and Ricardo Gonzalez although, as a single-race entrant, the team does not score points.
Porsche Team Manthey took a 1-2 finish in the LMGTE Pro category after a trouble-free run, and Aston Martin Racing celebrated its third consecutive 1-2 result in the Am class. This result ensures that Aston Martin Racing cannot be caught in the FIA Endurance Trophy for LMGTE Am Teams although it won’t be known until at least Bahrain if it will be the No.95 or No.98 which finishes on top.
http://www.fiawec.com/en/news/david...nclusive-win-at-6-hours-of-shanghai_2573.html
http://www.fiawec.com/en/news/porsc...-gte-double-in-6-hours-of-shanghai-_2572.html
Was proud of Ryan Newman for doing what he had to do to qualify for the championship. Makes Jeff Gordon's whining and pouting look childish and hypocritical. Gordon never minded bumping anyone at Bristol, Pocono, Richmond, Martinsville. But, let it happen to him, and the Hendrick teams act like dip shits.
