All OCSMs need to read this....

[HappyHapyJoyJoy]

Like I'm supposed to know you have some fuckin syndrome...?

Didn't condemn you for not liking how I use the language. A lot of people don't; hence the sig. It is what it is. You apparently don't like it, and I can't change it.

 

[alexpnz]

Didn't condemn you for not liking how I use the language. A lot of people don't; hence the sig. It is what it is. You apparently don't like it, and I can't change it.

I'm not getting into one of your CNN Roundtable Quote fests....

I'm WAY too cool for that.

 

[Elwood70]

I know that I am already pruning my area of involvement on this forum as well as severely lowering the number of OCSM's I bother to interact with.

I am too, but it's more because of the people posting in the threads, not the OCSMs themselves.

 

[Briana Lee]

Well I for one appreciate it and thank you Briana Yes, you have to have a tough skin to be able to hang on forums like this. You have to be super tough just to work in porn. But it doesn't mean that that's the way it SHOULD be, it's def not the kind of environment I enjoy on forums I frequent. Most porn forums treat the actual porn performers like SHIT until they leave. They're all basically hostile, rude, mean sausage parties. Maybe some people enjoy arguing on forums and think we should just "shut up and give it back" but that's not my idea of a good time and def not why I come here.

Exactly this. I come on here to have fun and interact with people who enjoy my work. I don't come on here to be called out and be insulted because I have an opinion.

I also forsee it having a negative impact on the OCSM's as well, because the normal members know there is no equality, that will inevitably prevent many of these OCSM's from recruiting new fans because normal members will be so concerned about "walking on eggshells" with the stars that it will discourage them from looking for new, or to other threads. I know that I am already pruning my area of involvement on this forum as well as severely lowering the number of OCSM's I bother to interact with. In fact, this does have the potential to prevent new "regular" people from joining the forum, and convincing some here now, to leave. If things trend that way, the only people on the forum will be the OCSM's. And as for your "only the OCSM's provide content," define what you mean by content! Furthermore, if nobody is around but the OCSM's, to whom are they providing content? Things are not as unrelated as you believe them to be.

No one is saying that you have to 'walk on eggshells', all they are saying is that you should show the OCSMs a bit of respect. Is that too much to ask? This is how it used to be before the whole 'no rules' era hit us about a year ago. So nothing has really changed. As you've been posting here for 6 years surely you would realize this?

My point has just been proven! Thanks! :thumbsup:

So who is it that has given you this view that all OCSMs are bitches and don't deserve to be protected? Because I for one show respect to everyone on this board (apart from Anders and Vodka of course). Reading your posts it seems that someone has upset you at some point.

1) I was just fucking with her...

Grrrrr.....

 

[Mandy Flores]

In all of this I find one undeniable universal truth, the one we learned in Kindergarten.... "Sticks and stones......words will never hurt me"

I have been told repeatedly that I am a whore. I've been told I don't know how many times how ugly I am. that I'm stupid, that this girl is wayyyy better, that my work sucks, that someone is going to spend all their time trying to destroy my image....that I should find a line of work where people won't have to look at my disgusting face... I could go on and on here......

The key is that if we, as OCSM's, and as porn starlets in general, would just accept that there are people out there who just like to fuck with others ..........and then just put it away....just ignore what you have read, not like it had even been shouted at you or had someone throw a swing at you..both of which you understandably will have to react to, but just words on a screen should never, NEVER make someone in our position be so bothered that we grace that idiot with a response. It is so easy to just ignore someone if you choose too. It's not like it's your mom or dad saying this and that about you which might really hurt, it's a nobody! If a 3 year old comes up and says you're ugly.. is it that big a deal? No, you laugh and say to yourself "what a little shit!" and your day continues on as it was. But if it was a thirty year old it is more impactful, makes you upset....why?? The only difference is how YOU feel about it....which in short hand is just saying you don't have to be upset if you don't want to be.

I had a guy who's mission was to just tear apart my Youtube channel with absolutely shitty comments and insults. He would email me constantly. You know what made him go away and me feel a lot better...yeah you guessed it...I ignored him. It actually became funny to me.

Let's not keep the bullshit alive by acknowledging it anymore. The fun in being an ass goes away if nobody cares.

 

[christophe]

Okay! Mandy, have I not shown you respect? When Briana, have I shown you any disrespect? Can someone find out if Miss H feels disrespected by me? Maybe Andi feels disrespected. Tell me exactly where, point it out to me, that I said OCSM's are bitches! My point is that, unlike what HHJJ is saying, that the regular people on the board don't count, and only the OCSM's count, without us "regular" people, behaving like desperate sycophants and clingers on, to whom would you advertise? From where would the dollars that pour in for your videos and website subscriptions come? We are worth some respect as well, yet I have every confidence that this "new rules era" will definitely be taken advantage of. It is just human nature. It may not be either of you, but I have already seen two OCSM's begin to exploit this new rule. But you no longer have to worry about me, "The Bad Guy," "Mr. Asshat." I will be spending less and less time around here in the future. The number of times I have had an unprovoked attack since I started discussing with HHJJ, from someone, and from as many OCSM's as I have, tells me, I hit the bull's eye. Good luck everybody. So long.

 

[Rattrap]

In all of this I find one undeniable universal truth, the one we learned in Kindergarten.... "Sticks and stones......words will never hurt me"

Ah, surely there were a few more from kindergarten. This board could use a little more of this anyway:
All I Really Need To Know I Learned In Kindergarten

 

[HappyHapyJoyJoy]

Okay! Mandy, have I not shown you respect? When Briana, have I shown you any disrespect? Can someone find out if Miss H feels disrespected by me? Maybe Andi feels disrespected. Tell me exactly where, point it out to me, that I said OCSM's are bitches! My point is that, unlike what HHJJ is saying, that the regular people on the board don't count, and only the OCSM's count...

Wait, where did I say that?

What I said was that we are not equal, and don't deserve the same treatment because of that. That is not at all the same as saying that regular posters don't count. That's not the same as saying that any and all behavior on behalf of the OCSMs are acceptable. In fact, I said the opposite, that while we do not deserve equal protection, that we deserve some.

It may not be either of you, but I have already seen two OCSM's begin to exploit this new rule.

I think I know the two you're talking about (won't name names, as it serves no purpose), and that's not the way I remember either situation. In fact, in one of them it was Roald who started the problem, and the OCSM in question merely had a laugh at it, and then the person who was banned (and is back now) went off on a string of personal attacks against her instead of Roald. And that poster is back now, and has admitted they were wrong and apologized (which I respect, most people don't on the Internet, so respect where it's due). In the other case you're looking at someone who is in fact a troll, and picked a number of fights with fellow posters and OCSMs, including the one that eventually got him banned. He made several snide remarks about her, then when she responded he started stalking her in several topics and maligning her (even making at least one topic specifically to serve that purpose), and yeah things got heated between them, with insults flying heavy in both directions.

Those are the two major situations that I remember involving OCSMs. Maybe I missed two others, or you have a different interpretation of the events, but those are the applications I've seen of this new rule and how I personally saw them go down.

The number of times I have had an unprovoked attack since I started discussing with HHJJ, from someone, and from as many OCSM's as I have, tells me, I hit the bull's eye.

What, in this topic? I see Aaliyah Love calling you "WHINEY!" (which wouldn't get anyone a ban all on it's own, even if directed at an OCSM) and that's it. Unless you want to count Mandy's joke about you having a giant dick. If there's more I don't see them, just some people questioning you about why you'd have an issue with the rule when all it entails is treating OCSMs with respect. I'm honestly not seeing more than disagreement here. Is this in another topic? Are you reporting the posts? Are they neg rep'ing you and leaving you nasty rep messages? I'm actually curious to where and what these attacks are, or if I'm just not seeing them.

 

[JaanaRuutu]

Okay, okay. For those that don't know, Christophe is talking about me, anbd this isn't the first time he's de-railed a thread over ONE COMMENT I made. So, I'm going to tell you all what happened so we can stop playing "boo-hoo OCSMs are mean" games.

Back when I first started to be active, IN LATE JANUARY,I made a comment about Will and Sam, saying they're dumb rednecks. Mr. Christophe took it open himself to not read ANY OF MY OTHER POSTS IN THAT SAME THREAD and neg rep me for insulting America because I'm not American and I must hate America and a ton of other nonsense. When I messaged him telling him that i lived there for 19 years, he just kept on whining.

Then when he tried to derail the OCSM of the Week thread over this, he was slapped down for being a dork, thus making his rage grow.

I still know I did fuck all wrong, and he still thinks he's somehow been victimized and that I somehow have more power than he does, which I dont.

 

[PlasmaTwa2]

Okay, okay. For those that don't know, Christophe is talking about me, anbd this isn't the first time he's de-railed a thread over ONE COMMENT I made. So, I'm going to tell you all what happened so we can stop playing "boo-hoo OCSMs are mean" games.

Back when I first started to be active, IN LATE JANUARY,I made a comment about Will and Sam, saying they're dumb rednecks. Mr. Christophe took it open himself to not read ANY OF MY OTHER POSTS IN THAT SAME THREAD and neg rep me for insulting America because I'm not American and I must hate America and a ton of other nonsense. When I messaged him telling him that i lived there for 19 years, he just kept on whining.

Then when he tried to derail the OCSM of the Week thread over this, he was slapped down for being a dork, thus making his rage grow.

I still know I did fuck all wrong, and he still thinks he's somehow been victimized and that I somehow have more power than he does, which I dont.

Some members like attention. That's really all there is to it. Most likely, he didn't like your comment and was upset when nothing was done about it. He just needs to reread the rules.

(PS: Christophe, redneck redneck hillbilly America sucks)

 

[georges]

Briana and Mandy Are correct :yesyes: It is a Chance to have OCSMs on board, the bare minimum is to treat them with courtesy and show them respect.

 

[Mayhem]

Okay, okay. For those that don't know, Christophe is talking about me, anbd this isn't the first time he's de-railed a thread over ONE COMMENT I made. So, I'm going to tell you all what happened so we can stop playing "boo-hoo OCSMs are mean" games.

Back when I first started to be active, IN LATE JANUARY,I made a comment about Will and Sam, saying they're dumb rednecks. Mr. Christophe took it open himself to not read ANY OF MY OTHER POSTS IN THAT SAME THREAD and neg rep me for insulting America because I'm not American and I must hate America and a ton of other nonsense. When I messaged him telling him that i lived there for 19 years, he just kept on whining.

Then when he tried to derail the OCSM of the Week thread over this, he was slapped down for being a dork, thus making his rage grow.

I still know I did fuck all wrong, and he still thinks he's somehow been victimized and that I somehow have more power than he does, which I dont.

Hell, I was born in Washington D.C. and grew up in the shadow of Philadelphia......and I hate dumb rednecks....and Indiana.....and Mississippi.....and pickups with oversize tires....and anything in Washington State and Oregon east of the mountains.....and Anheuser-Busch.

 

[daitro]

:catpopcorn:

 

[Rattrap]

Back when I first started to be active, IN LATE JANUARY,I made a comment about Will and Sam, saying they're dumb rednecks. Mr. Christophe took it open himself to not read ANY OF MY OTHER POSTS IN THAT SAME THREAD and neg rep me for insulting America because I'm not American and I must hate America and a ton of other nonsense. When I messaged him telling him that i lived there for 19 years, he just kept on whining.
[...]
I still know I did fuck all wrong, and he still thinks he's somehow been victimized and that I somehow have more power than he does, which I dont.

I think I remember that. And yeah, you weren't doing anything the rest of us weren't (that is, calling dumb rednecks dumb rednecks). Seeing as we're not banned...all's fair, no?

And Mayhem, you

...hate [...] anything in Washington State and Oregon east of the mountains

?! ...but there's nothing there!

 

[Maggie Green]

Okay, okay. For those that don't know, Christophe is talking about me, anbd this isn't the first time he's de-railed a thread over ONE COMMENT I made. So, I'm going to tell you all what happened so we can stop playing "boo-hoo OCSMs are mean" games.

Back when I first started to be active, IN LATE JANUARY,I made a comment about Will and Sam, saying they're dumb rednecks. Mr. Christophe took it open himself to not read ANY OF MY OTHER POSTS IN THAT SAME THREAD and neg rep me for insulting America because I'm not American and I must hate America and a ton of other nonsense. When I messaged him telling him that i lived there for 19 years, he just kept on whining.

Then when he tried to derail the OCSM of the Week thread over this, he was slapped down for being a dork, thus making his rage grow.

I still know I did fuck all wrong, and he still thinks he's somehow been victimized and that I somehow have more power than he does, which I dont.

Yeah I remember all of this. IDK what his problem is.

 

[Deepcover]

Actually there is an OCSM that I'm surprised is still allowed to be on here the way she attacks people verbally. Maybe her Herpes flared up and her period started at the same time, that would make most girls grumpy I would think. I guess she's punished enough then.

Haha...I think I know who you're talking about and im also completely shocked that she gets away with the things she says online. In any case, this makes me wonder if this protection act thingy is really legit. Idk but it sounds like this new rule is all about talking rather then doing.

 

[raimmi]

(PS: Christophe, redneck redneck hillbilly America sucks)

I do neither know you, nor do I know Christope, but it seems that you are a moderator of the forum.
And this sounds really respectless and looks like a childish behaviour.

A moderator shouldn't act this way.

 

[xfire]

You no longer have to worry about me, "The Bad Guy," "Mr. Asshat." I will be spending less and less time around here in the future. Good luck everybody. So long.

I really hope you mean it.

 

[Elwood70]

(PS: Christophe, redneck redneck hillbilly America sucks)

I do neither know you, nor do I know Christope, but it seems that you are a moderator of the forum.
And this sounds really respectless and looks like a childish behaviour.

A moderator shouldn't act this way.

So, how are moderators supposed to act? Are they not allowed to have a sense of humor?

 

[Aaliyah Love]

What, in this topic? I see Aaliyah Love calling you "WHINEY!" (which wouldn't get anyone a ban all on it's own, even if directed at an OCSM) and that's it. Unless you want to count Mandy's joke about you having a giant dick. If there's more I don't see them, just some people questioning you about why you'd have an issue with the rule when all it entails is treating OCSMs with respect. I'm honestly not seeing more than disagreement here. Is this in another topic? Are you reporting the posts? Are they neg rep'ing you and leaving you nasty rep messages? I'm actually curious to where and what these attacks are, or if I'm just not seeing them.

..and then he continued on to prove my point haha. I don't think this guy knows how to distinguish between joking around, minor insults to threats to downright harassment. OR maybe he's just a whiney crybaby who likes to complain about "fairness."
If I had to judge from this thread alone, I'd say both