2010/2011 NCAA Football Thread

[smoknn]

Everyone saw this, right?
unfuckingbelievable.

that goes in my top ten plays of all time

 

[YumiYumi_1988]

Am I the only one that is elated that Boise State got their ARSE kicked?

I was, but not cuz I hate the "little" schools. I just hate Boise State. If it were TCU or any other mid-major, I wouldn't be so happy.

i been saying it the last few weeks..auburn is the most underrated team in the ncaa..but ranking is not that important at the moment..its going to pan out..the way i see it..by the end of the year..3 of the top 5 teams besides (boise and tcu)...will be well earned the right to be there..i think when the smoke clears this year..we going to know who the best is...ok heres my outlook..(this coming from a die hard crimson tide fan,,ask jagger....If..auburn beats bama in the iron bowl..and..ahhh cough lsu tommorow...auburn wins its first NC...thats my story..and its sticking to me post # 1791 10/22 <<<repost

1 - Auburn is underrated?? And here I thought they were overrated cuz they play in the SEC. Now if you are referring to how the polls have them behind Oregon, I'd agree and say after beating Alabama they should be number 1. My prerequisite was always getting a big road win, and they accomplished that. Not sure Oregon has, USC being the closest.

2 - It's hard to believe Auburn has never won a title. I didn't realize that. They've always been a quality program. In fact since I've been watching college football, Auburn has been almost as successful as Alabama, save for the 1 national championship.

Is that really true? That seems impossible...

Yeah, that doesn't make much sense. Especially since there aren't enough teams receving votes to even rank 50 teams in the polls. BYU and Utah finished last year ranked. TCU beat them. So that makes no sense at all.

 

[smoknn]

It would be great if Auburn or Oregon loses next weekend. I would like to see an an underdog school (TCU) at the championship game.

yea that is just what we need a team that gave up 35 points against san diego st....to play in the nc game...are you kidding???::: news flash...i dont think tcu would jump auburn even if they lose to south carolina..they could beat tcu with the second unit...tcu is overrated..and has been all year..they should have dropped out of the top 5 after the san diego st game tmo

 

[smoknn]

I was, but not cuz I hate the "little" schools. I just hate Boise State. If it were TCU or any other mid-major, I wouldn't be so happy.



1 - Auburn is underrated?? And here I thought they were overrated cuz they play in the SEC. Now if you are referring to how the polls have them behind Oregon, I'd agree and say after beating Alabama they should be number 1. My prerequisite was always getting a big road win, and they accomplished that. Not sure Oregon has, USC being the closest.

2 - It's hard to believe Auburn has never won a title. I didn't realize that. They've always been a quality program. In fact since I've been watching college football, Auburn has been almost as successful as Alabama, save for the 1 national championship.



Yeah, that doesn't make much sense. Especially since there aren't enough teams receving votes to even rank 50 teams in the polls. BYU and Utah finished last year ranked. TCU beat them. So that makes no sense at all.

yumi yumi yumi...that was a repost before auburn played lsu..they was underrated then...now they are where i thought they should have been all along...and they are where they will be when the smoke clears..auburn will smash tcu or oregon like a grape on a square dance floor..the only team that has a chanch to beat auburn is south carolina...after the games they have played this year...oregon and tcu would be a walk in the park:wiggle::wave:

 

[alexpnz]

John Gruden to THE University of Miami?
Looks pretty close according to Colin Cowherd on ESPN. :dunno:

 

[Hot Mega]

John Gruden to THE University of Miami?
Looks pretty close according to Colin Cowherd on ESPN. :dunno:

 

[rwill25]

artysml:artysml:

Cam Newton cleared to play

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5870788

Now lets get on with football

 

[Jagger69]

John Gruden to THE University of Miami?
Looks pretty close according to Colin Cowherd on ESPN. :dunno:

Well, if the leader of the Herd was your source, why didn't you say so in the first place, 'Mega? :1orglaugh

I'd love to see it....but I'll believe it when it happens. If he goes, Shalala better be prepared to write a BIG check, that's for sure.

 

[Hot Mega]

Well, if the leader of the Herd was your source, why didn't you say so in the first place, 'Mega? :1orglaugh

I'd love to see it....but I'll believe it when it happens. If he goes, Shalala better be prepared to write a BIG check, that's for sure.

2 things (or 3), Cowherd wasn't my source. I don't know him personally and Kirby Hocutt says money is not an object in terms of Miami's next HC. It was an object (per se) when Shannon was hired as Miami still owed a ton of money to Coker on buy out.:2 cents:

I just thought that modded up boxcover was a good response to the Cowherd speculation.

 

[Jagger69]

2 things (or 3), Cowherd wasn't my source. I don't know him personally and Kirby Hocutt says money is not an object in terms of Miami's next HC. It was an object (per se) when Shannon was hired as Miami still owed a ton of money to Coker on buy out.:2 cents:

LOL....chill out. Just clowning with you, pal. :yahoo: On Monday, I heard that money was no object as well. I just find it hard to believe that he'll leave such a great gig at MNF unless it is for a shitload of cash. If UM coughs it up, bring him on. He'd be a great face for the university and the entire athletic program, not just football. We want Chucky!!!

I just thought that modded up boxcover was a good response to the Cowherd speculation.

It was....liked it a lot! :thumbsup:

 

[Hot Mega]

LOL....chill out. Just clowning with you, pal. :yahoo: On Monday, I heard that money was no object as well. I just find it hard to believe that he'll leave such a great gig at MNF unless it is for a shitload of cash. If UM coughs it up, bring him on. He'd be a great face for the university and the entire athletic program, not just football. We want Chucky!!!

You wonder though if at his age he's satisfied babbling about the game on the outside as opposed to affecting it on some level from the inside.

And at his age...if he still wants to be effective, how long can hit sit around on the outside getting fat and lazy while some aspects of the game pass him by to where he's not able to do what he once might have been able to....:2 cents:

 

[Jagger69]

You wonder though if at his age he's satisfied babbling about the game on the outside as opposed to affecting it on some level from the inside.

And at his age...if he still wants to be effective, how long can hit sit around on the outside getting fat and lazy while some aspects of the game pass him by to where he's not able to do what he once might have been able to....:2 cents:

Wanting to come back at all is the key. Madden made a helluva lot more money doing commentator work than he ever did as coach of the Raiders. Obviously, he never got the itch to come back. The other thing about Gruden is that he is really, really good on MNF, not just another jock (or ex-coach) spewing shit like so many of them. I'd put him right up there with Phil Simms and Troy Aikman as a color guy....he might even be the best of them all.

Still, he's only 47 so one would think he's not done coaching. If I were Gruden, though, I think I might place a quick call to Jerry Jones before I inked any offer with Miami for $3 million/year.

I guess we'll find out shortly. UM will want to get this position filled ASAP. Sources indicate that an announcement might be made sometime yet today:

Jon Gruden close to becoming University of Miami Hurricanes coach

Jon Gruden appeared close to becoming the University of Miami football coach Tuesday night, with various reports saying the former Bucs coach would meet with athletic director Kirby Hocutt today in Tampa to hammer out the final details.

After Randy Shannon was fired Saturday night, Gruden, 47, said he was happy as an ESPN Monday Night Football analyst and wasn't interested in the UM job. But behind the scenes, he apparently initiated contact to express interest — perhaps as early as a few weeks ago.

Website canesport.com reported that Gruden's brother Jay is expected to join him as offensive coordinator. The website said an announcement might come today.

The Miami Herald reported that, though Gruden has shown interest in the job, UM wasn't sure about whether he would take the job if offered. The Herald said Hocutt wants to determine that by today and that, contrary to Canesport.com's report, several trustees said the process has not reached that point of a deal being worked out with Gruden.

The South Florida Sun Sentinel reported that Gruden contacted Hocutt weeks ago. Shannon was fired hours after Saturday's 23-20 overtime home loss to USF in which fewer than 27,000 showed up at Sun Life Stadium.

Hocutt had said he wanted a coach who would make Miami "relevant" again. The Herald reported that UM would pay in the range of $3 million, factoring in revenue his hiring would create. UM asked athletic department employees to piece together a plan to quickly put 2011 tickets on sale if Gruden is hired.

The Orlando Sentinel reached Jay Gruden's cell phone late Tuesday; he told the paper he was unaware of a deal.

"I'm sorry, but I don't have anything for you," said the younger Gruden, head coach of the United Football League's Florida Tuskers.

Hocutt said Sunday: "We will do whatever it takes to get back to the top of the college football world. And we are going to find the best individual in this country to come in …''

Florida's Urban Meyer makes a total package of $4 million. Florida State first-year coach Jimbo Fisher makes $1.8 million, and first-year USF coach Skip Holtz makes $1.7 million.

Gruden has college coaching experience, but not as a head coach. He was a graduate assistant at Tennessee (1986-87), quarterbacks coach at Southeast Missouri State (1988) and receivers coach at Pacific (1989) and Pittsburgh (1991).

Gruden won the lone Super Bowl title in Bucs history in the 2002 season, his first with the team. The Bucs are still paying Gruden the remainder of his contract, but presumably would be released from that obligation if he were hired for another coaching job. Gruden, who previously coached the Raiders, still had three years and about $15 million left on his Bucs contract when Tampa Bay fired him after the 2008 season.

Since then, his coaching has been limited to volunteering in high school at Carrollwood Day, where his son, Deuce, is a junior quarterback.

The Sun Sentinel reported that, if Miami does not hire Gruden, the school would likely turn to Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen, a former assistant at Florida. Tuesday, Mullen told the Jackson (Miss.) Clarion-Ledger that he has "not talked to anybody" about other jobs.

The Herald cited a trustee as saying that UM won't turn to head coaches with baggage — including Jim Leavitt, the coach fired by USF after last season. Leavitt, who coached Kansas State when Hocutt played there, could be in the mix for an assistant job. The no-baggage rule would seem to eliminate Mike Leach and former UM coach Butch Davis.

St. Petersburg Times source is here:

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/colleges/jon-gruden-close-to-becoming-miami-hurricanes-coach/1137462

 

[Basedow]

Hitler was apparently a Boise fan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h40dvs8QGTg&feature=player_embedded

 

[smoknn]

cam is good to go...now that the season is over and they split hairs and found a way to hang a dark cloud over the top sec team (that no team can seem to beat) Again...like they seem to do ever year...no bad feelins at oregon...but i wished someway auburn could match into tcu...for the NC my guess it would be over in the 3rd qtr...after auburn and cam get about 50 points...maybe tcu boise st would get they ass out of the way so the big boys could play.......o i so wished we had a playoff......:dunno:

 

[Jagger69]

...but i wished someway auburn could match into tcu...for the NC my guess it would be over in the 3rd qtr...after auburn and cam get about 50 points...maybe tcu boise st would get they ass out of the way so the big boys could play.......o i so wished we had a playoff......:dunno:

OK everyone, please indulge me as I go through my annual rant against the BCS. Truth be known, I absolutely wish it would be either Oregon or Auburn against TCU as well....if for no other reason than to actually find out if there is any credence to the contention that dominant programs from non-BCS conferences are really legitimate or not. This whole thing started to get totally skewed back 2007 when Boise St. ambushed Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl. Then, things got worse a year later when Alabama got whacked in the Sugar Bowl by Utah. If the Sooners and the Tide had done what they were supposed to do and crushed the Broncos and Utes, I don't think we'd have anywhere near the same kind of controversy that we do now that TCU and (until they got beat by Nevada last week) BSU have generated with their steamroller dominance over their competition this year.

Look....TCU is really good. I mean really good. Gary Patterson has been extremely shrewd in recent years by recruiting a ton of second-tier talent from Texas that normally would have been content riding the pine or being platooned for Texas, Texas A & M or Oklahoma by promising them a chance to start at TCU. He has assembled a bunch of those kind of guys and they have seized that chance and made the most of it. Patterson deserves a ton of credit for that. Now, they consist of a very talented team without question. Is it possible that they could beat either Oregon or Auburn? Hell yes they could....it's college football for chrissakes!!

BUT....just how good are they in actuality? As my esteemed and totally SEC-devoted colleague already mentioned (rooting for Auburn in spite of the fact that he is an unabashed Crimson Tide lover as any good conference guy should be), we'll likely never know since there is not a playoff. GODDAMMIT IT IS FUCKING OBVIOUS THAT THERE SHOULD BE A FUCKING PLAYOFF AND ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE IS A FUCKING DICK (sorry....my continued disdain for the travesty that is, and always will be until or unless it is changed, the present and ridiculous system we have in place known as the BCS goes on unabated). There is no way we'll know if either Oregon or Auburn is really better than TCU without one.

And that, my friends, just ain't right no matter how you slice it.

Years ago, before the BCS was implemented, the media would always refer to the final poll winner of Division 1 NCAA football as the "mythical national champion". I've got news....the champion is still a mythical one if schools like TCU are exempt from consideration simply because they do not play in a BCS conference. If that lack of consideration is really true and deserved, I propose that we take every program that is not in a BCS conference and reduce them to Division 2 status. At least then they would have a shot at a national championship because, at that level, there is a playoff.

When will this madness ever end? Who knows....probably never. I just hope that I live long enough to see it if it does.

 

[CunningStunts]

artysml:artysml:

Cam Newton cleared to play

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5870788

Now lets get on with football

sCam is the tip of the ice berg for Auburn's problems... just wait... the FBI has tons of evidence on those assholes, but can't release it until the indictments come down for some of their boosters and BOT members. :elaugh:

And yes, I agree that some type of "playoff" is needed... hell, I've always said I'd settle for a plus-1 game for the championship, but wait until AFTER the bowls to pick the two teams!

 

[lurkingdirk]

Take a breath, Jagger. Have a drink.

We all know you're right. Eventually it will change.

 

[Hot Mega]

OK everyone, please indulge me as I go through my annual rant against the BCS. Truth be known, I absolutely wish it would be either Oregon or Auburn against TCU as well....if for no other reason than to actually find out if there is any credence to the contention that dominant programs from non-BCS conferences are really legitimate or not. This whole thing started to get totally skewed back 2007 when Boise St. ambushed Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl. Then, things got worse a year later when Alabama got whacked in the Sugar Bowl by Utah. If the Sooners and the Tide had done what they were supposed to do and crushed the Broncos and Utes, I don't think we'd have anywhere near the same kind of controversy that we do now that TCU and (until they got beat by Nevada last week) BSU have generated with their steamroller dominance over their competition this year.

We all know these teams (non BCS conf.) can compete (and even win) in a game. Hell, some FCS schools have competed against BCS conference teams. Even teams from BCS conferences have been dominated in the title games...so even if TCU or BSU (for example) go their shot and got destroyed in a particular match up ...that wouldn't prove they couldn't compete.

The problem has been with them has been the fact that they compete in conferences that don't have the talent top to bottom to challenge their depth and the coaching top to bottom to diagnose their schemes over the course of competing with these teams year in and year out.

So the perception (likely true) is that they couldn't go undefeated facing the schedules of some of the BCS confs.

 

[smoknn]

ok ok i got it figured out...tcu and arkansas in the shut smoknns mouth bowl..if they beat arkansas...i will buy a tcu shirt....if not...i get a handjob from the lady of my choice:elaugh::wiggle: :dont delay..this offer wont last long

 

[Justanothergirl]

CU will be getting a new coach shortly.