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  1. Icewater Jones

    NFL '13 Season Thread

    The Bears new, younger, and more aggressive defense is going to have a field day on Green Bay's depleted O-line this year. Everybody seems to be sleeping on Chicago in the NFC North.
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    Your top 10 NFL quarterbacks

    He's in my top 10... what are you talking about? I feel that Eli is an above average QB with a great team. He is consistently pretty good, his performance is hard to gauge. It's not spectacular, but there's something to be said for getting it done in pressure situations. That weighs large with...
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    Your top 10 NFL quarterbacks

    Yeah, but you keep conveniently leaving out that as it pertains to Jay Cutler, those factors are fact. Bears O-line = Bottom 5 in the league. Fact. Bears Receiving Core = Bottom 5 in the league. Fact. No one can even argue that. Add to this, Jay is the most sacked QB in part due to these...
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    Your top 10 NFL quarterbacks

    Thanks for the correction! That is my mistake on that one. My assessment, however, still stands. That's because RG3 in a top ten is beyond intelligently debatable. I decided not to even go there.
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    Your top 10 NFL quarterbacks

    So let's see if I have this right... First we vault Cam over Cutler based on ONE season... Then we do this based on ONE game??? We're simply gonna discount the longevity of proven consistent quarterbacking on the simple basis of solid season or one head-to-head matchup? With this logic Kerry...
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    Your top 10 NFL quarterbacks

    Don't trip. You gotta remember that some of these cats don't actually watch football. The just play that fantasy shit and catch Sportscenter highlights. The deeper you go into it with them, the more crazy they sound debating this. Like I said before, one of these authorities on this subject...
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    Your top 10 NFL quarterbacks

    You can't honestly be serious. Are you seriously going to compare a QB with a PRO BOWL WR, a PRO BOWL RB, and a PRO BOWL C, to a QB that has NO PRO BOWLERS to work with. I like how you bring up 2010 and conveniently leave out the fact that Carolina had a lame duck coach, a sub-par QB, and and...
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    Your top 10 NFL quarterbacks

    All I'm saying is that Dalton's QB numbers were very comparable to Newton's Newton had more rushing Dalton had more wins... and with a lot less help overall. In my estimation, you can keep the rushing and the highlights. I'm taking the wins. Everytime.
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    Your top 10 NFL quarterbacks

    Are you counting when he was a Gator, because...
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    Your top 10 NFL quarterbacks

    He's only played one NFL season.
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    Your top 10 NFL quarterbacks

    So far he's a one year wonder because he was a wonder for the one year he's played so far. That's not to say he'll end up that way, but at this point I got put him there.
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    Your top 10 NFL quarterbacks

    What about IT'S ONLY BEEN ONE YEAR is difficult to understand? Yes, it was a great year, but if your willing to trade in a consistently good yearly performance for a one year wonder, I'd question your judgement. BTW: Steve Smith, Ryan Kalil, Deangelo Williams are all pro bowlers and Stewart and...
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    Your top 10 NFL quarterbacks

    *double post.
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    Your top 10 NFL quarterbacks

    NFL do not watch and critique games for a living... they're busy playing them. Are you really also gonna act like NFL aren't extremely biased also. Come off that. I will trust someone who has played the position and now PROFESSIONALLY breaks down film and critiques the position for a living. Not...
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    Your top 10 NFL quarterbacks

    37...40 ehhhh... sue me! BTW: I clearly said CHICAGO did that, not Jay Cutler. Did you happen to also check the other shit. 26 ppg, 0 zone picks, Bear O-line ranks, Bear receiver ranks, 7-3 before the injury... or did you skip over those? You also failed to acknowledge that you and I both know...
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    Your top 10 NFL quarterbacks

    You can't be serious! The Bears O-Line was ranked 27th overall!!! Not only that but his top receiver was his fucking RB!!!!!!! Seriously, trade Stafford for Cutler straight up last, and please convince me that Stafford would take that offense to 26 pts a game and a 7-3 record. BTW: one of those...
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    Your top 10 NFL quarterbacks

    Consider the fact that Cutler has top 5 worst O-Line and receiving core, and still keeps this team in the playoffs, averages 26 pts a game as a starter (more than Newton and Stafford), and had fewer red zone picks than both last year. Both Stafford and Newton boast Pro Bowl recievers, while the...
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    Your top 10 NFL quarterbacks

    Let's not act like Newton is anywhere near Cutler's caliber of QB? I'll give him the edge on rushing, but... let's not go there.
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    Your top 10 NFL quarterbacks

    OROY was Andy Dalton's Award and anybody that watches football knows it.
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    Your top 10 NFL quarterbacks

    ...and given 15 more games, Matt Flynn would've passed for 6000 yards plus! Yes Matthew had a fantastic season... but it was just one, and in this NFL, I can't tell if 5000 passing yard QB's are gonna start being the norm. I need to see him do this more than one season. I would place him in the...
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    Your top 10 NFL quarterbacks

    First off, there's no way I'm putting anyone in their first and second year in my top 10. That shit is asinine. That said, my list is... 1. Drew Brees 2. Tom Brady 3. Aaron Rodgers 4. Peyton Manning 5. Ben Roethlisberger 6. Phillip Rivers 7. Jay Cutler 8. Eli Manning 9. Matt Ryan 10. Tony Romo
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    UFC 148: Silva vs Sonnen II

    Ha! Would you believe... Idiot(s)!!!!!
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    Has your favorite team (any sports team) ever made a trade that was an epic win?

    In a 1987 draft day trade, The Seattle Supersonics trade Scottie Pippen to the Chicago Bulls for Olden Polynice. ***fun fact: The Bulls had two lottery picks and originally planned to pick a PF with the first pick and a SF with the second. With that trade, The Bulls no longer needed to pick a...
  24. Icewater Jones

    Pornstars with fake tits ** Before & After Breast Augmentation / Implants **

    Re: Before & After Breast Augmentation (#2) I'm riding with kratos on this one. Her tits weren't great to begin with, but her boob job is no improvement. She didn't go nearly big enough. Why spend money on a surgery to go only about a cup and a half size bigger? You coulda saved that money...
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    UFC 148: Silva vs Sonnen II

    R.I.P. Chael Sonnen Won $350. Thanks Chael!!!
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    Lebron on the 1990 Bulls or Jordan on the 2007 Cavaliers?

    It's just as much about the level of comp between the two eras as it is about MJ and and LeBron. As a native Chicagoan and longtime Bulls fan, I know that the 1990 Bulls team was not hard enough to compete for a ring. The level of comp was way too high. Let's face it, comparing the two eras in...
  27. Icewater Jones

    NBA '12/'13 Thread.

    Let's face it, you cannot contend in the NBA without black dudes.
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    Lebron on the 1990 Bulls or Jordan on the 2007 Cavaliers?

    Mike has a kill switch. He flips that son a bitch right before tip-off. LeBron is an extremely talented athlete. His prowess does not go beyond his physical gifts. Sadly, playing for Miami means he has to see the retired jersey of the living master of basketball domination himself. LBJ isn't...
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    NBA '12/'13 Thread.

    I'm going to agree with STDiva: N.O. and Boston are the clear winners in this draft. Talk about getting the goods, both teams walk away with exactly what they were looking for and then some... especially Boston! My honorable mentions go to the two top future teams: Chicago and Oklahoma City...
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    NBA '12/'13 Thread.

    Brandon Roy comeback... thoughts? http://espn.go.com/chicago/story/_/id/8104439/minnesota-timberwolves-express-interest-signing-brandon-roy
  31. Icewater Jones

    June 9, 2012: Manny Pacquiao vs. Timothy Bradley

    I don't give a damn what you think about Manny, the fact is simply this... HE WAS BULLSHITTED TONIGHT!!! Worst decision in a long fucking time.
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    Miss FreeOnes Round 3! Come support the 15 finalists in each category!

    My votes go those that have showed me love over the years I've been here. SpexyAshleigh Miss Hybrid Vicky Vette Briana Lee
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    And your team is who?

    I AM A WRIGLEYVILLE NATIVE, BORN AND BRED. I lived up on the far end of the famed Waveland avenue. My very first job was working at Wrigley field. I am born into being a Cub fan. 24/7. 365 days a year. What is said by a few doesn't matter. Tell me and other Cub fans something we don't know...
  34. Icewater Jones

    Fuck the Broncos!

    I think we have a better shot than some can see. The Bears reeled off 5 straight while scoring 39, 24, 30, 37, 31 before losing both Cutler and Forte amongst others. The undoubtedly would have swept the AFC West if healthy after that win streak. Health is certainly needed, but we have a team...
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    Fuck the Broncos!

    Double post. Please delete.
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    Fuck the Broncos!

    It's been a minute since I've been here, but I gotta jump in. I can't blame Denver for going after the biggest fish. I can blame them for not working with Tim Tebow, who played well despite a management who never wanted him at all. People keep saying he's mediocre, but his numbers and results...
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    Round 1 of Miss FreeOnes 2012 has started! Who will be in the top 50?!

    My Vote List: The following women are getting all of votes. Spexy Ashleigh Miss Hybrid Briana Lee Vicky Vette Tia Ling Jane Burgess Tay Stevens Harley Spencer XO Gisele JinxyPie
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    Round 1 of Miss FreeOnes 2012 has started! Who will be in the top 50?!

    I'm voting for Spexy Ashleigh every chance I get! Others who are getting my votes: Vanilla Deville Miss Hybrid Briana Lee Sara Jay Vicki Vette Jane Burgess and Tay Stevens.
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    Damn, MM... it's been a minute! Sending messages from my phone doesn't work for tumblr well, but...

    Damn, MM... it's been a minute! Sending messages from my phone doesn't work for tumblr well, but hey! Yo, things have been crazy for me! Continued in private...
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    Awesome, just awesome! (video)

    Excellence. I've learned quite a bit.
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    Guys, please answer this question for me

    So untrue. Women are EXTREMELY visually stimulated ... jus not by dicks. The real answer is: men crave validation. We just do. We need to know if we're big enough, strong enough, good enough, etc... its why we ask so many questions in bed. We get off on pats on the head, and in this way, we...
  42. Icewater Jones

    NBA '11/'12 Thread

    Ummm not really. The Clips hold that title down. Now, they haven't seemed to figure out too much beyond that, but got lobs down.
  43. Icewater Jones

    Same-Sex Marriage, Where Do You Stand?

    Nah dude, you were given other options. If you weren't given anything but brocolli to eat... I'd bet you'd love it. Same thing with sexual preference. You don't know what you're gonna like until you have some kind of experience with it. Even babies make similar decisions. If you begin by feeding...
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    Same-Sex Marriage, Where Do You Stand?

    I don't believe 'gay' is a medical anomaly. I think it is a choice, and that is what makes it great; its what it means to be human. The power to intelligently choose lifestyles, based on your own unique tastes and experiences, is not only great, but it confuses me as to why anyone wants to take...
  45. Icewater Jones

    Kristy McNichol of 'Family,' 'Empty Nest' comes out as a lesbian

    Who gives a shit? Coming out is like celebrity edition Playboy magazines... mostly overblown non-events that are only truly news worthy about once a year depending who decides do it. Kristy McNichol has not been relevant as a celeb EVER, but since she is a lesbian, she owed an extra minute and a...
  46. Icewater Jones

    Julia Bond Stopped doin Porn and works on MFC now!

    Her newest ink work is not hot all. WTF happened to her?
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    Same-Sex Marriage, Where Do You Stand?

    Yes, and I'm all for gay couples having those very rights, as I'd stated.
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    Same-Sex Marriage, Where Do You Stand?

    I believe the topic is 'Same sex marriage: where do YOU stand'. Not where does the gov't stand, and how do you take the gov'ts view. I am American, and black, and an Alabama resident. I think I know a bit about segregation and civil rights. This is not the same issue. The major difference is...
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    Same-Sex Marriage, Where Do You Stand?

    My simple question is: Why do some of you get so up in arms when others believe that certain concepts, places, activities, etc... should be reserved for specific groups? Some of you are using the term 'wrong' for those who feel that marriage should be reserved for straight couples, but is it...
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