Your top 10 NFL quarterbacks

[Jaymon78]

What did Newton win?

You're making my point. Cutler and Flacco have been around for awhile, plus have great defenses, and they haven't won.
No way I could rank Cutler or Flacco in top ten QB's. What you see is what you get with them. Bet both would love to have had a year like Cam had last year.

A link to what execs and coaches around the league have to say
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...-ranking-among-nfl-qbs-brings-varied-opinions

 

[Icewater Jones]

You're making my point. Cutler and Flacco have been around for awhile, plus have great defenses, and they haven't won.
No way I could rank Cutler or Flacco in top ten QB's. What you see is what you get with them. Bet both would love to have had a year like Cam had last year.

A link to what execs and coaches around the league have to say
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...-ranking-among-nfl-qbs-brings-varied-opinions

What about IT'S ONLY BEEN ONE YEAR is difficult to understand? Yes, it was a great year, but if your willing to trade in a consistently good yearly performance for a one year wonder, I'd question your judgement. BTW: Steve Smith, Ryan Kalil, Deangelo Williams are all pro bowlers and Stewart and Olsen aren't slouches. Even with those weapons, Cam and Carolina couldn't break even on the season.

 

[STDiva]

He's not a one year wonder yet, IWJ. If he fails from here on out, you'd be right. I'll take potential over proven mediocrity all day, urr day.

 

[Icewater Jones]

So far he's a one year wonder because he was a wonder for the one year he's played so far. That's not to say he'll end up that way, but at this point I got put him there.

 

[STDiva]

To me, he's a beast every season he's played so far.

 

[Icewater Jones]

He's only played one NFL season.

 

[STDiva]

I know. 100% of his seasons have been awesome.

 

[Icewater Jones]

Are you counting when he was a Gator, because...

 

[STDiva]

NFL, obv

 

[Chrism86354]

I know. 100% of his seasons have been awesome.

:clap:

 

[ravendude16]

1. Rodgers
2. Brady
3. Brees
4. Big Ben
5. Eli
6. Stafford
7. Cutler
8. Flacco
9. Newton
10. Rivers

Here's an idea for later on, Your Top 10 Worse QB's (ones who either will start or are in competition to start)

 

[ravendude16]

Okay, here's mine:

1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Aaron Rodgers
4. Drew Brees
5. Eli Manning
6. Ben Rothlisberger
7. Matt Stafford
8. Matt Schaub
9. Joe Flacco
10. Cam Newton

The top four on my list can rotate to the top spot as they all have that exceptional ability. I'd add Eli to that but he is strictly put a 4th quarter quarterback / superbowl quarterback. In the other moments he is sub-par, lol. Is he better than Tom Brady... only when he plays his team... this stuff is all subjective and what-not anyhow.

Wow, Seriously guys??? No love for Flacco??? Thanks Lawrence for having some common sense :clap:

 

[ravendude16]

You're making my point. Cutler and Flacco have been around for awhile, plus have great defenses, and they haven't won.
No way I could rank Cutler or Flacco in top ten QB's. What you see is what you get with them. Bet both would love to have had a year like Cam had last year.

A link to what execs and coaches around the league have to say
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...-ranking-among-nfl-qbs-brings-varied-opinions

Are you kidding me? Don't sit there and criticize Flacco when you have no clue what you're talking about.. He's never missed a game his entire career, he has almost nobody to throw the ball to, a offensive line with tons of holes, and one of the worse Offensive Coordinators in the league... And yet he's found a way to help bring this team to the playoffs four straight seasons.. Look, I know the defense is helping big time , but with what Flacco has around him there isn't a whole lot he can do.. Did you know that last year only three receivers/tightends had catches going into the season? Ed Dickson (1), Lee Evans (who missed almost the entire season), and Boldin (who can't run after the catch)... Before you start to rate and say which players suck. Think about what they have around them and how many games they've played/missed... I'm so tired of constantly seeing people bash Flacco because he isn't a leading QB, he's the guy who threw a perfect pass into the hands of lee evans and out performed tom brady

 

[ravendude16]

OROY was Andy Dalton's Award and anybody that watches football knows it.

I don't know... I would have given it to his wide receiver A.J Green, that guy is going to be one hell of a player

 

[Icewater Jones]

All I'm saying is that Dalton's QB numbers were very comparable to Newton's

Newton had more rushing

Dalton had more wins... and with a lot less help overall.

In my estimation, you can keep the rushing and the highlights. I'm taking the wins. Everytime.

 

[Jaymon78]

Are you kidding me? Don't sit there and criticize Flacco when you have no clue what you're talking about.. He's never missed a game his entire career, he has almost nobody to throw the ball to, a offensive line with tons of holes, and one of the worse Offensive Coordinators in the league... And yet he's found a way to help bring this team to the playoffs four straight seasons.. Look, I know the defense is helping big time , but with what Flacco has around him there isn't a whole lot he can do.. Did you know that last year only three receivers/tightends had catches going into the season? Ed Dickson (1), Lee Evans (who missed almost the entire season), and Boldin (who can't run after the catch)... Before you start to rate and say which players suck. Think about what they have around them and how many games they've played/missed... I'm so tired of constantly seeing people bash Flacco because he isn't a leading QB, he's the guy who threw a perfect pass into the hands of lee evans and out performed tom brady

Never missed a game... then he should be playing much better than he does. Yeah blame everyone on offense besides Flacco. Funny how that's never a point when talking about the Manning's, Brees, Brady or Rothlisberger; They always seem to have great new players, that plug right in and start producing. I'll change my opinion when Flacco starts making players around him better. He's the leader of the one part of that team that's keeping them from winning a division or world championship. To say Flacco "out performed" Brady is ridiculous. Brady made it to the Super Bowl with a 30th ranked defense. Flacco "threw a perfect pass" against that next to last ranked defense... and you want me to think what? . Perhaps that god awful Offensive Coordinator drew up one good play that afternoon.

 

[Jaymon78]

What about IT'S ONLY BEEN ONE YEAR is difficult to understand? Yes, it was a great year, but if your willing to trade in a consistently good yearly performance for a one year wonder, I'd question your judgement. BTW: Steve Smith, Ryan Kalil, Deangelo Williams are all pro bowlers and Stewart and Olsen aren't slouches. Even with those weapons, Cam and Carolina couldn't break even on the season.

Flacco and Cutler have had years to show what they can do and so far I haven't seen much. Both teams (Bears and Ravens) are division contenders with glaring weakness at the QB position. Easy to blame other offensive players, but if they are as good as suggested, they would make the players around them better. Those Pro Bowl weapons on the Panthers you mentioned, finished dead last in 2010! Carolina wisely use their #1 pick on a promising college QB rather than trade it for Flacco or Cutler and future considerations. Speaking of considerations... Cam Newton played championship ball his final year in college, entered the NFL during a player lockout that limited his prep time before the season started (plus veterans learning new system and coach) and finally he did have a terrific season. That said, I wasn't a fan of him when he was in college, and as my original post states, the jury is still out on Cam.

 

[316sherm]

My list:
1: Drew Brees (if he gets a deal)
2: Aaron Rodgers
3: Tom Brady
4: Mike Vick
5: Cam Newton
5: Peyton Manning (I think he will surprise alot of peeps)
6: Matthew Safford
7: Philip Rivers
8: Eli Manning
9: Matt Ryan
10: RG3 (I think he will also surprise alot of peeps)


:2 cents:

 

[Straight Shooter]

My list:
1: Drew Brees (if he gets a deal)
2: Aaron Rodgers
3: Tom Brady
4: Mike Vick
5: Cam Newton
5: Peyton Manning (I think he will surprise alot of peeps)
6: Matthew Safford
7: Philip Rivers
8: Eli Manning
9: Matt Ryan
10: RG3 (I think he will also surprise alot of peeps)


:2 cents:

Another one who is drinking the Cam Newton Kool-Aid. So you have Newton at 5 and Eli Manning, who has won 2 Super Bowls, at 8.

 

[Icewater Jones]

Flacco and Cutler have had years to show what they can do and so far I haven't seen much. Both teams (Bears and Ravens) are division contenders with glaring weakness at the QB position. Easy to blame other offensive players, but if they are as good as suggested, they would make the players around them better. Those Pro Bowl weapons on the Panthers you mentioned, finished dead last in 2010! Carolina wisely use their #1 pick on a promising college QB rather than trade it for Flacco or Cutler and future considerations. Speaking of considerations... Cam Newton played championship ball his final year in college, entered the NFL during a player lockout that limited his prep time before the season started (plus veterans learning new system and coach) and finally he did have a terrific season. That said, I wasn't a fan of him when he was in college, and as my original post states, the jury is still out on Cam.

You can't honestly be serious.

Are you seriously going to compare a QB with a PRO BOWL WR, a PRO BOWL RB, and a PRO BOWL C, to a QB that has NO PRO BOWLERS to work with. I like how you bring up 2010 and conveniently leave out the fact that Carolina had a lame duck coach, a sub-par QB, and and offense that clearly quit on them... like that absolutely nothing to do with anything. Not only does Cam come into the league with a hands down better offense than Cutler, he has the advantage of being brand new with a brand new coach, meaning teams cannot pre scout them! It makes a huge damn difference when the team across from you has no idea what you can really do as a player, no idea what sort of offense this coach will incorporate, and still must be wary of PRO BOWL weapons!!!

How many advantages can you possibly have???

Look at the bigger picture, anyone halfway intelligent football watcher would no doubt take Carolina's offense over Chicago's with Carolina have a receiving core that outperformed Cutler's bunch in just about every statistical category and a clearly better O-Line... AND STILL... even having missed the last 6 games, Cutler finished having led the Bears to a 7-3 record. His importance was never more evident than fact the Bears lost 5 of the last 6 without him. Cutler missed six games and still had more wins that Cam with a #1 WR that finished with only 37 receptions??? Highlights and exciting shit aside, how is this even arguable?

Let's keep it 100... Carolina could've had the same damn record without Cam.