U.S Becoming Less Religious, The Observant Become More Devout
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Conscience:an inner feeling or voice viewed as acting as a guide to the rightness or wrongness of one's behavior.
Yes, not everyone has a conscience. Those are people who can ****** and **** and can committ all kinds of heinous acts and not feel one ounce of remorse. So what's your point?
you're still not answering my question. what defines right and wrong?
My inner feeling tells me I like what you have and I should take it. And it's right because it benefits me.
If you can't tell the difference between Do not impose on others what you do not desire others to impose upon you and Thou shalt not commit adultery or Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, let me explain :
Thou shalt not commit adultery is a real, a law, it's very specific. Do not impose on others what you do not desire others to impose upon you is more like a moral guidance, it can be applied to many situations.
One one side, we've got God an christianity/judaity/islam forbidding pointing the right path. On the other side we've got confuscius, giving you a compass to help you find that right path
Oh snap! afiagdat!!!!
I just told you, my conscience. You're looking for an exact definition of right and wrong but unfortunately there is no objective right and wrong. Your inner feeling is telling you that you should steal. You might feel that that is right but our society would say that that is wrong because there is a law against stealing.
There is no objective right and wrong yet you are appealing to one. If my conscience differs from yours then whose is right? And if society has the final say on what is right and wrong we can go down that road too.
double pos.
I'm appealing to one? I simply answered your question. Did I say I agreed with it? You might feel that it's right to steal however our society would say you're wrong as there are laws against stealing. Our country says that at the federal level ********* is an ******* substance. If I choose to smoke *********, is that right or wrong?
So who is right? Unless you say there's absolutely no right or wrong and it's a total free-for-all, you're relying on a standard of what is right or wrong. Whose? If it's your conscience, that's subjective. If it's what society decides then say that.
BlkHawk
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It is both individuals, and society. There is no constant right and wrong, both are fluid as determined by individuals, and society. The majority of individuals determine what each society determines is moral.
50 years ago gay sex, and ********* were both considered wrong. Now one has completely changed, and the other is fast changing. Slavery was once morally fine, now most cultures consider it wrong.
Religion does a similar thing though it changes more slowly.
The above was once considered moral at one point in history, just as religion is now used to oppose civil rights for gays. Western societies reject the above as morally wrong, and you don't see advocates for publicly stoning non-virgins. Just as in the near future you will no longer see religion used to advocate against gay civil rights.
What is moral is, and always has been in a state of flux, and religions that fail to adapt to that state cease to exist, as they no longer reflect the society they are attempting to serve. You may not believe that, but history has shown it is true time, and time again. How many people would identify as Christian if the churches still advocated slavery, denied woman the right to vote, or stood against inter-racial marriage? Various Christian faiths all did these things in our nations past, all of those churches who refused to adapt, and continued to advocate for those things have virtually ceased to exist.
I would imagine other faiths, the ones based on the god of Abraham, and also the ones that are not have gone through similar changes, but I am not familiar enough with those faiths to point them out.
Oh great.Quoting the Old Testament and law directed at Israelites as if it is somehow relevant today.
That's never been done before.
That's never been done before.
Oh great.Quoting the Old Testament and law directed at Israelites as if it is somehow relevant today.
That's never been done before.
That's never been done before.
BlkHawk
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Leviticus 18-20 is also old testament, and was directed at the Levites, however it also the most used verse by many churches to justify opposition to gay sex. Pot meet kettle.
hold up. one sec. on second thought, I don't care. all that time I could've been jerking to porn. actually I was, but that's beside the point.
porn.
porn.
wait, hold up, on second thought, nevermind, I don't care. all this time I could've been jerking to porn. well I was, but I didn't have to multi task. I seriously don't give a **** what anyone believes regarding this matter. apologies for wasting anyone's time.
Porn.
Porn.
Only the Old Testament bans homosexuality. There is no mention of it in the New Testament. Still, christians consider homosexuality as a ***, an abomination.
If you think the Old Testament only applies to israélites then there is no reason for christians to consider homosexuality as a sin.
If you think the Old Testament only applies to israélites then there is no reason for christians to consider homosexuality as a sin.
While the Bible doesn't specifically say "Butt pirates or uphill gardeners' there are plenty of references in the New Testament from Jude to Romans to Corinthians. When Paul speaks of " unclean" scholars agree he is referencing homosexuality.
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