Martin Luther King Jr. Remembered

[Jack Davenport]

I am lost by your argument. What difference does religion make in any of this? So what Mrs. Jolly isn't Christian but celebrates equality and celebrates a man who guided his motion towards equality though God or the church. What difference does that make?

In no way does him being a religious man have anything to do with the fact that he was working towards the greater good. So maybe we still don't have 100% equality, which is pretty sad considering the day and age we live in, but it's still a work in progress. A process which one had enough courage to unite his people and fight for what they believed is right.

maybe I missed your point...

then you have not been paying attention to the many posts by her that basically state that anyone that believes in a Supreme Being is completely void of logic and may as well pray to the Easter Bunny. It was nice to see her admire a person of such deep religious conviction and a Baptist minister at that.

 

[ed007]

I think he also read the Bible from time to time. Probably the King James version.

i think you could be right maybe he did read the Bible from time to time and perhaps it was the King James version.

 

[maildude]

I'm sure King was a good person but It was actually LBJ who designed the so called great society legislation which included laws that upheld civil rights. So I think this day should really be about LBJ. :2 cents:

LBJ was instrumental in a lot of civil rights legislation, including affirmative action. But the civil rights movement initiated by King predates the Johnson administration.

 

[pete rose]

dr. King spoke of god and christianity in every speech he gave. It was he that threw his religiousness in your face. I only took the opportunity to remind her and you of that fact. There can be no separation of the man and his deeds from his faith. As much as you may try, his inspiration was the almighty.

Do you have a point you'd like to get to?

 

[Jack Davenport]

Do you have a point you'd like to get to?

Yes, for something so evil to some, Possibly the most important social movement of our time was born from the Christian faith and a devout Christian. Got it?

 

[pete rose]

No, I don't, because you haven't made a point. I understand you're just trying to be inflammatory but you're doing a dogshit job of that.

 

[Hot Mega]

I'm sure King was a good person but It was actually LBJ who designed the so called great society legislation which included laws that upheld civil rights. So I think this day should really be about LBJ. :2 cents:

:helpme::hammer:

The movement lead by MLK Jr. wasn't about great society programs nor are they why his day is remembered. Secondly, MLK Jr. not being an elected politician wasn't in a position to enact anything legislatively. His movement was about effecting change through awaking the hearts and minds of all people to freedom, justice and equality and what that should mean in a place with the creed of America.:2 cents:

 

[Jack Davenport]

No, I don't, because you haven't made a point. I understand you're just trying to be inflammatory but you're doing a dogshit job of that.

Um.. Inflammatory? All I have done is state facts about Dr. King. If you find that inflammatory then so be it. The responses by you and others that may not adhere to a particular religion were as predictable as I imagined. But since you find my posts on this thread to be so inflammatory and judging by the responses I would say that
I have done a wonderful job at inflaming some of you.

 

[pete rose]

Um.. Inflammatory?

You do realize Ms. Atheist that this man had a profound faith in God don't you? That probably really gets your goat.

Yes. Also, inflammatory is a word in the english language. You could use it whenever you feel like it.

The responses by you and others that may not adhere to a particular religion were as predictable as I imagined.

Every single one of those responses have been "we do not give one **** about his religion, his social actions are what we admire" and you seem to keep rambling about his religion as if it mattered.

But since you find my posts on this thread to be so inflammatory and judging by the responses I would say that
I have done a wonderful job at inflaming some of you.

You're excellent at contradicting yourself.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Yes. Also, inflammatory is a word in the english language. You could use it whenever you feel like it.

Every single one of those responses have been "we do not give one **** about his religion, his social actions are what we admire" and you seem to keep rambling about his religion as if it mattered.

You're excellent at contradicting yourself.

Perhaps once you participate in this forum more you will see that there is a history of inflammatory remarks directed at those people of faith on this board. And the person that I directed my comments to initially is one of the main people making such comments so I don't really care if you take issue with it or not. You keep saying that you are not angered by my "inflammatory" reminders that Dr.King's actions were fueled by his Christian beliefs yet you are the one that seems upset . Methinks thou doth protest too much.

 

[pete rose]

I'm not angry, you're just making yourself look like a gigantic jackass.

 

[Philbert]

I'm not angry, you're just making yourself look like a gigantic jackass.

He is being eclipsed by a really gigantic jackass who uses a baseball player screename...hey, it's you!:rofl:

 

[Ace Bandage]

Methinks thou doth protest too much.

^^ Okay, if you're going to quote Shakespeare, you will do so correctly. If you don't know the line, then don't use it. It goes like this:

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks." - Hamlet, Act 3, scene 2.

I happen to be a huge Shakespeare buff (note the user name) and will not stand for his works being besmirched. You have fifty push-ups and ten laps around your house for punishment. Get going!

 

[Jack Davenport]

I'm not angry, you're just making yourself look like a gigantic jackass.

Are you the self appointed conscience of this thread? :1orglaugh

 

[Philbert]

Your point is well put and clear...those who so callously denigrate religion and the religious put a face on their disdain using phrases like "idiots', "believers in fairy tales", etc.
Yet here comes the great Dr King and he's so wonderful, ignoring his devout Christianity which is the source and foundation of his great humanity.
And come an idiot like Oral Roberts, and suddenly his foolishness is the direct result of his devout Christianity.
The hypocrisy is there to see by all but the mentally blind, and the guilty.

As for the good Dr., he saw clearly what many saw (ignoring Fridays silly white Supremacist comments)...the majority of white people saw things like the Dr did, or nothing would ever have changed.
White students and black died in Mississippi, white Attorney General and President gave credence and support to the movement, but all people saw the time had more than come to stop pretending that anyone was less than anyone else under the law and Constitution of the United States.
He had an eloquence and a personal power that gave people the Chris Matthews leg tingle, and in spite of his imperfections as a man he had a clear vision, and the courage to continue down his chosen path.
I get quiet and listen intently whenever I hear his impassioned speeches, there is something to listen to in his clear messages to all people in the struggle to rise above the pain and misery of ordinary life. We are all equal sufferers, and are all equal in God's eyes. Joy is found in the path we take to get through our brief limited life on the planet, and the Dr had a vision of this.
All men are less than perfect, we admire those who do what they see as right in spite of their failures to do the very things they know they should (or shouldn't ) do.
I couldn't care less what people feel is the White Man's burden of Guilt (sorry, I got none. Take my share for yourself, please!); the Rev.Dr. Martin Luther King believed in a steady path forward towards the light, and I admire his steadfast march towards that very thing...equality of all, no privilege for some and none for others... ....Content of Character not color of skin
I would like to have walked with the good Dr. King ...

 

[Jack Davenport]

^^ Okay, if you're going to quote Shakespeare, you will not do so incorrectly. If you don't know the line, then don't use it. It goes like this:

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks." - Hamlet, Act 3, scene 2.

I happen to be a huge Shakespeare buff (note the user name) and will not stand for his works being besmirched. You have fifty push-ups and ten laps around your house for punishment. Get going!

First of all I used to be in a band called Milkshakespeare so I will paraphrase Billy boy any way I please. Sucketh off.

 

[pete rose]

You guys are still failing to make any points whatsoever. It seems like you're just trying to get people into a religion discussion when this thread isn't even about that. Oh wait, since MLK was a Christian, by deductive reasoning, this thread is about his religion. Am I following you correctly?

He is being eclipsed by a really gigantic jackass who uses a baseball player screename...hey, it's you!:rofl:

man i should really feel shame for using pete rose's name right

words words words

It's like Blue Countach 2: Electric Boogaloo

 

[Jack Davenport]

You guys are still failing to make any points whatsoever. It seems like you're just trying to get people into a religion discussion when this thread isn't even about that. Oh wait, since MLK was a Christian, by deductive reasoning, this thread is about his religion. Am I following you correctly?

man i should really feel shame for using pete rose's name right

It's like Blue Countach 2: Electric Boogaloo

The question was posed on this thread "What does his legacy mean to you?" As a someone that believes in a higher power his legacy is that Christianity brings forth positive results for societal change. Now if I had a track record on this board of badmouthing Islam and suddenly I found myself singing the praises of an Imam for some great humanitarian act, I would expect to be called out on it. Pete with all due respect, I hope someone else is placing your bets because you are not at your sharpest tonight.

 

[Philbert]

You guys are still failing to make any points whatsoever. It seems like you're just trying to get people into a religion discussion when this thread isn't even about that. Oh wait, since MLK was a Christian, by deductive reasoning, this thread is about his religion. Am I following you correctly?
[No...:*****:]

man i should really feel shame for using pete rose's name right

You should indeed feel shame...I doubt it, though.
I'll bet you think you're really smart and we must be in awe of your Obama-like eloquence...guess what?
'Tis not so...and I give a **** if you call yourself Pete Rose or Mickey Rat.
How about a new name...*****-King? Oh, wait, it may already be taken.:rofl:

 

[darkwarrior3007]

I think this thread has completely deviated from what Maildude intended.