I didn't accuse you of blaming anyone. It was a rhetorical, sarcastic question. Anddd...as I said, you can (should) start to blame Obama the minute he fails to reasonably act or when the fruits of the policies he enacts fail in practice.
Whats up with these shootings?
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I didn't accuse you of blaming anyone. It was a rhetorical, sarcastic question. Anddd...as I said, you can (should) start to blame Obama the minute he fails to reasonably act or when the fruits of the policies he enacts fail in practice.
Violator79
Take a Hit, Spunker!
You know all these shootings reminds me of a George Carlin line. In it he says and I quote:
"Why is it that the evil voices in people's heads always tell them to go out and **** someone? How come they never say, 'go take a **** on the salad bar at Wendy's.'"
"Why is it that the evil voices in people's heads always tell them to go out and **** someone? How come they never say, 'go take a **** on the salad bar at Wendy's.'"
Ah, yes, good ol' George. If only he were still around, this **** wouldn't've happened. I think that the reason why we're seeing so many people go apeshit with guns lately is because not enough of them have heard the message of George Carlin. If we had a National George Carlin Awareness Week people might acquire some common sense. :2 cents:
The real issue with all these shootings are due to a combination of problems :
1. Many of these guys have some kind of mental disorders, antisocial behaviour(California shooter), schizoid behavior(loner, NY shooter) or paranoid behaviour(Pittsburgh shooter). The shooting may sound like impulsive behaviour but has been well planned for years to come.
2. The economic downturn is not the reason to blame for these kind of behaviour but unemployment does cause a lot of 'down time", $200.00 a month of unemployment check with no jobs and 24 hours a day of free time makes you think "a lot of crazy ideas".
3. Unemployment is more than "not getting a paycheck". It is about insecurity, loss of ****** life, home and "the future".
4.For those "at risk" people, it only adds stress to a serious problem.
5. Guns facilitate those massive shooting and death. You don't need AK-47 or high power rifles but both NY and Virginia Tech shootings prove 2 semi-automatics can cause major damages.
6. In both Virginia Tech and N.Y. shootings, they were premediated, planned years ahead and both have many signs of trouble ahead but were not picked up.
7. Are they copycat or have we seen the worst yet? I don't have the solution to these.
Obama is not doing enough nor the state government is doing enough on extension of unemployment assistance, social assistance and creation of actual jobs. Jobs must be distributed to "all people", not just white or black but to all citizens of United States.
As you can see clearly the worst massive shootings in both Virginia Tech and N.Y. are not white or black !
1. Many of these guys have some kind of mental disorders, antisocial behaviour(California shooter), schizoid behavior(loner, NY shooter) or paranoid behaviour(Pittsburgh shooter). The shooting may sound like impulsive behaviour but has been well planned for years to come.
2. The economic downturn is not the reason to blame for these kind of behaviour but unemployment does cause a lot of 'down time", $200.00 a month of unemployment check with no jobs and 24 hours a day of free time makes you think "a lot of crazy ideas".
3. Unemployment is more than "not getting a paycheck". It is about insecurity, loss of ****** life, home and "the future".
4.For those "at risk" people, it only adds stress to a serious problem.
5. Guns facilitate those massive shooting and death. You don't need AK-47 or high power rifles but both NY and Virginia Tech shootings prove 2 semi-automatics can cause major damages.
6. In both Virginia Tech and N.Y. shootings, they were premediated, planned years ahead and both have many signs of trouble ahead but were not picked up.
7. Are they copycat or have we seen the worst yet? I don't have the solution to these.
Obama is not doing enough nor the state government is doing enough on extension of unemployment assistance, social assistance and creation of actual jobs. Jobs must be distributed to "all people", not just white or black but to all citizens of United States.
As you can see clearly the worst massive shootings in both Virginia Tech and N.Y. are not white or black !
Mr. Daystar
In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
The last time I checked, it wasn't called the "Bill Of Needs". There is no justification for blaming any type of *** in these cases. The whack job in Pittsburgh ****ed 3 law reinforcement officers, he could have done that with a standard hunting shotgun, and the guy from Virginia Tech, didn't have a semi automatic rifle, only handguns. While I will admit, it wouldn't have been possible to **** as many people as he did without a ***, the Virg. Tech shooter COULD HAVE been stopped long before he got to victim #2, if the school hadn't dropped the ball, and handled the situation properly. That school also voted, just days before, to ignore the Constitutional rights of it's students and faculty, to carry concealed. Now I'm not to happy with the bullshit I see going on lately. These fucktards are doing nothing but causing grief for the law abiding *** owners such as myself. But the fact is, I am just that, a law abiding, tax paying, registered voting, citizen of The United States of America, and I'll be damned if my right to own any ***, and/or defend myself, or my loved ones shall be infringed because of some fucking idiots, that can't seem to get it right. I feel terrible that innocent people are being ****ed, but the laws we already have aren't always being enforced, the answer isn't more laws and more restrictions. A lot of these guys aren't even supposed to have guns, they're already breaking the law, and the guy from Virg. Tech gave more signs that he was going to snap, then they should have needed to stop him. The guy in Cali. wasn't supposed to have a ***, it was ******* for him to own one, and this guy in Pitt yesterday was already on their radar as potential trouble. I'll be the first to agree, something needs to be done, but not at the expense of the law abiding.
It's a tough call on unemployment benefits...you don't want people to face ruin but at the same time you can't pay every individual enough to accommodate their individual lifestyles or else, why would they ever look for work?
Having said that, under the circumstances the governments are doing what they reasonably can as far as I can see. In order to turn the economy around consumer spending needs to grow steadily and be sustained. The only way a government can facilitate such an occurrence is by sponsoring long term projects which allow the contractors of such projects to hire. Those people will begin to spend on their basic needs then eventually on discretionary consumables which should stimulate more production of those consumables and theoretically more jobs as demand for those products increase...and so on and so forth. (Yep, it's going to take a while..)
There isn't much more the g'ment can do except to try an buoy the backbones of our institutions until things get turned around.
life is meaningless though.
I don't see it as meaningless. What makes you feel that way?
when that police shooting in oakland happened i knew there were going to be repercussions. we have the internet - news travels fast - it's not like anything can be local anymore - so in that respect when one thing happens somewhere it's effects are felt much wider and spread throughout. the cops are cracking down - they're dying - they're a gang just a legal gang and to think that they won't retaliate is just being ignorant.
with that being said i agree with what someone said earlier about the de-education of americas youth. the american ***** was put out for everyone to be fooled and instead be enslaved into modern economic slavery. the rampant corruption in the US is ridiculous just the other day i got a misdemeanor for smoking bud in a car at a the parking lot not disturbing anything. the cops came hauled my friend to jail towed his car and handed me a misdemeanor. ( all i had was bud) to say that i am lucky to just get a ticket as opposed to being haulled off to jail is fine but now i have to deal with this misdemeanor.
in the midst of everything i realized how corrupt the system is - and how quickly one person can go from being free and happy - to being slammed in debt - ****** to find a 9 - 5 because i can't afford school can't afford a job - and that's at least one year of my life that i have to tough out before it gets expunged.
but my point is how i'm part of a large nuimber of people who get caught up like this - caught in some bad situation that feels like a bad *****. all this happens everyday - the system is literally an institution of slavery.
go to school - borrow a loan - and work to pay it back
get in trouble - police come BANG! there goes alot of oppurtunities for a better life.
and for all those who say that "if you just stay out of trouble" i say why is trouble defined by the laws that the politicians create? why isn't it defined by the people?
as for all these shootings there a consequence to the corruption. you think these guys would have gone crazy if they were in a better situation - and if that is the cause then why are bad situations always ****** onto people.
I'm sorry i have my rights as a person but doing a 9 -5 and being in debt for th rest of my life is bullshit.
... man that was a huge incoherent rant...
with that being said i agree with what someone said earlier about the de-education of americas youth. the american ***** was put out for everyone to be fooled and instead be enslaved into modern economic slavery. the rampant corruption in the US is ridiculous just the other day i got a misdemeanor for smoking bud in a car at a the parking lot not disturbing anything. the cops came hauled my friend to jail towed his car and handed me a misdemeanor. ( all i had was bud) to say that i am lucky to just get a ticket as opposed to being haulled off to jail is fine but now i have to deal with this misdemeanor.
in the midst of everything i realized how corrupt the system is - and how quickly one person can go from being free and happy - to being slammed in debt - ****** to find a 9 - 5 because i can't afford school can't afford a job - and that's at least one year of my life that i have to tough out before it gets expunged.
but my point is how i'm part of a large nuimber of people who get caught up like this - caught in some bad situation that feels like a bad *****. all this happens everyday - the system is literally an institution of slavery.
go to school - borrow a loan - and work to pay it back
get in trouble - police come BANG! there goes alot of oppurtunities for a better life.
and for all those who say that "if you just stay out of trouble" i say why is trouble defined by the laws that the politicians create? why isn't it defined by the people?
as for all these shootings there a consequence to the corruption. you think these guys would have gone crazy if they were in a better situation - and if that is the cause then why are bad situations always ****** onto people.
I'm sorry i have my rights as a person but doing a 9 -5 and being in debt for th rest of my life is bullshit.
... man that was a huge incoherent rant...
Sushi.... you were ******** *******. In a car. Do you fully comprehend the gravity of that act?
The whole "we're all slaves of the system" is bullshit. NOBODY ****** you to take debt, NOBODY. That's YOUR FAULT. Or what, you don't want to earn anything either, you want everything to fall from the sky?
The whole "we're all slaves of the system" is bullshit. NOBODY ****** you to take debt, NOBODY. That's YOUR FAULT. Or what, you don't want to earn anything either, you want everything to fall from the sky?
Most of these sicko are seeking revenge, some against the authority figures, in this case, the police. The coward in N.Y. seeked revenge against the weak and his own, the immigrants.
The issue I have with Obama and the US Government is what they have done for individual Americans who lose their jobs. Because the Government is more interested in bailing out big corporations, banks, insurance companies, Wall Street than you and me.
I expect the worse is yet to come when unemployment, saving, houses and families are lost.
That's what you see when a man ****ed all his ******, his own *****ren in Washington from todders to teens.
It is tragic !
It's meaningless only if your life is built on nothing but conspicuous consumption.
What would benefit Americans the most--is if we rediscovered how to enjoy life more. We, as a nation, aren't connoisseurs of anything. We just run out to buy whatever **** our neighbors or co-workers have.
naw man it was a bowl of ********* - in a pipe out from view and not disturbing anyone. and yea i did comprehend the gravity of my act. im in a car smoking a bowl having a talk and then about to go work out at the gym.
i didnt have a ***
i wasn't going to shoot anyone
i wasn't disturbing anyone
i was in a car parked in a corner far from people to see.
in fact i was fuckin studyin and having a conversation
and i definitely wasn't going to drive anywhere stoned.
hell if someone called me in because they disliked the smell then i guess people should be arrested for farting in public.
but yea i understand the consequences- i'm not stupid - i'm not shifting blame - i'll deal with my fuckin problems no doubt. i'm not worried about myself - it's a bump in the road but you know what i always FUCKIN ALWAYS had to deal with ****. so a misdemeanor to me is another piece of **** i gotta go through - i'm not gonna sulk and bitch and moan about my situation -
BUT I WILL BITCH ABOUT THE FUCKIN CORRUPTION.
how many other people are going to get caught in a similar situation i was. how many of them are going to be able to deal with that situation. how many of those people are going to have their oppurtunities shut on them. i can afford to pay myself through school but what about all the other **** getting their chance at an education turned away. and where is the fuckin harm.
that's what i want to know
wheres the harm in smoking weed in one's car - while doing homework and then going to work out.
don't police got rapists and ****ers to go after - what the fuck are they doing cracking down on people minding their own business.
oh yea that's right
it's against the law!
they can't be found protecting and serving the people - they make sure their presence is heard - they make sure they ENFORCE the laws - hence why their called *************** becuase everybody knows the feeling when a cop is near.
it doesn't feel safer - it actually feels worse - because they have the power to take away rights.
the police - never there when you need them - always there when you don't want them.
and it's amazing what a misdemeanor can do to one's impression. all my life i done no harm - been beat up - discriminated against - shot at - robbed - shanked - fell off a cliff - hit by car - had my head split open -
fuck i'm just happy to be alive and have a chance to spread some good around.
it's funny how people perceive each other. the mentality is no longer about "we" just you OR me.
fuck that you or me bullshit...
Yeah, because that never happens.
And also the majority of these shooters owned the guns illegally, and broke dozens of laws in their ****, so the law did little to stop them.
The irony is how "shocked" people are by these shootings. Columbine wasn't that long ago. Virginia Tech wasn't that long ago. Wasn't there a shooting rampage in Arkansas? How about when the daytraders were losing their shirts? Disgruntled former employees going back and shooting up the office. these happen with regularity. While they shouldn't be accepted behavior, by no means are these acts out of the norm for American society.
Imagine how Americans would react if someone did a suicide bomb at an outdoor plaza. People in Israel know that anyday some terrorist could suicide bomb a cafe. We live in a dangerous world.
By the way, no one gets outraged at ***** drivers in this country. They **** people everyday. Americans feel bad for the victim but rarely villify the guilty.
Imagine how Americans would react if someone did a suicide bomb at an outdoor plaza. People in Israel know that anyday some terrorist could suicide bomb a cafe. We live in a dangerous world.
By the way, no one gets outraged at ***** drivers in this country. They **** people everyday. Americans feel bad for the victim but rarely villify the guilty.
People are tired of the bullshit, that's why. At the risk of getting modded, I can understand wanting to *** down all of the bastards that treat you like ****. What I can't understand is wanting to *** the innocent peple that did NOTHING to you. That's the main issue I have with the public shootings like Virginia Tec. Keep innocents out of it.
One way to stop ***** driving is for auto manufacturers to install a breathalizer ignition system. Would you want to blow into a little pipe each time to start your car? A small group of people in New Hampshire recently revolted with that state tried to pass a seatbelt law. New Hampshire is the only state in the US without a seatbelt law. Those protesters claimed, "I'm smart enough to know to put the seltbelt on myself. I don't need the gov't telling me to do it." I assume these people are also smart enough to know better than to drive *****? But there are still ***** driving accidents and fatalities in New Hampshire. Hmm. Something doesn't seem to add up. Having "Freedom" doesn't necessarily mean that smart choices will result? People have the "freedom" to fuck up no matter the collateral damage? Is that what people want? If so, than most peoples' attitudes will become "at least I wasn't there when that mass shooting happened" or "atleast I wasn't on the road when that drunkard barreled into that car..." Hmmm. "Freedom" doesn't seem to instill active, concerned citizens. Freedom seems to be becoming an excuse to rationalize tragic behavior and to dismiss compassion?
Freedom entails responsibility, and responsibility entails consequences. There is no reason to punish EVERYONE for the actions of the few (when it comes to guns, cars, whatever, it doesn't matter). You just have to enforce the law and punish the ones who DO commit crimes.
Ideas like breathalizer ignition systems are just entirely retarded.
Ideas like breathalizer ignition systems are just entirely retarded.
