Iamforever
Banned
my sentiments exactly. :glugglug:
WWE Raw & Smackdown Weekly Thread
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my sentiments exactly. :glugglug:
bigbadbrody
Banned
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Raw may be the flagship program WWE has and the only one it has ever had and ever will have. But just because you are on Raw does not mean that you are a good wrestler, and just because you are stuck in ECW or on Smackdown does not mean that you are a crappy wrestler.
Take for example Lance Cade and Trevor Murrdoch are getting a push and they suck at wrestling. Yet Ric Flair is constantly in crappy undeserving story lines
WWE needs to switch up the rosters. Put all the great wrestlers on Raw, and put the mid card guys that have a bit of potential and never reach it on smackdown and the fire all the crappy guys that they dislike as much as the fans do
This way fans like myself may actually tune in once in a while.
OH and they need to have the divas take part in every segment and storyline, which would get the 18-30 age group of fans tuning in each and every week
Iamforever
Banned
true, but its a death blow to the good ones and taker.
what happened to that yearly lottery?
i say get rid of most. especially the ones who cant wrestle. except torrie, naturally.OH and they need to have the divas take part in every segment and storyline, which would get the 18-30 age group of fans tuning in each and every week
bigbadbrody
Banned
Huh?
I dont know, but I am glad they dont have it. I dont want them fucking up what they have already fucked up enough
plus, wrestlers from all three brands are popping up on other shows all the time
i say get rid of most. especially the ones who cant wrestle. except torrie, naturally.
keep for wrestling skills: Mickie James and Victoria, which would not work because WWE would drag out the storyline for way to long and bore the fans to death.
Keep for looks: Torrie, Candice, Maria, Kelly Kelly and Milena
Fire the wrest of the Divas.
Divas wrestling went downhill after Trish left. But she was only the champ for so long because her only two viable competitors, lita and Victoria, were never used to the full potential.
Two of WWE's biggest mistakes to the Divas was firring Jazz and Molly Holly. Tow Ugly Ladies, but pretty good wrestlers
Hmmmm... Where to start? Well, first if someone could tell me how to use the mulit quote feature this would be much easier. Instead I will just have to put quotes in quotation marks.
IAMFOREVER WROTE:
"um, anything on smackdown is not a push. its the minor league. raw is the flagship show. if you are not on raw, then you suck. i know, i know, taker and benoit. thats been pissing me off for a long time that they are still on smackdown."
I concur with you, that means I agree, that Raw is the flagship show. Smackdown is NOT considered the minor leagues of wrestling what so ever. The minor leagues of wreslting are groups such as ROH, JAPW, numerous NWA affiliates, CZW, etc. Any independant wrestler would kill to have a shot on Smackdown. Smackdown is a world wide promotion. A world wide organization with a regular TV show, championships defended around the world, and sold out arena's is anything but minor league. Just because the show is on Friday nights does not mean it is minor league.
Until 1993 WWF was on Saturday night TV or Saturday morning programming. I guess it just depended what area you live in. That did not make them minor league.
IAMFOREVER WROTE:
"um, anything on smackdown is not a push. its the minor league. raw is the flagship show. if you are not on raw, then you suck. i know, i know, taker and benoit. thats been pissing me off for a long time that they are still on smackdown."
I concur with you, that means I agree, that Raw is the flagship show. Smackdown is NOT considered the minor leagues of wrestling what so ever. The minor leagues of wreslting are groups such as ROH, JAPW, numerous NWA affiliates, CZW, etc. Any independant wrestler would kill to have a shot on Smackdown. Smackdown is a world wide promotion. A world wide organization with a regular TV show, championships defended around the world, and sold out arena's is anything but minor league. Just because the show is on Friday nights does not mean it is minor league.
Until 1993 WWF was on Saturday night TV or Saturday morning programming. I guess it just depended what area you live in. That did not make them minor league.
Iamforever
Banned
the multi quote is the box in the lower right hand corner with three paper like things..
did i say smackdown was the minor leagues of wrestling? no, i said smackdown is the minor leagues.
1993? weekends at noon? i grew up on that stuff. those were awesome. i just wish they had more than one "real" match. all the rest were against nobodys.
Hmmmm... Where to start? Well, first if someone could tell me how to use the mulit quote feature this would be much easier. Instead I will just have to put quotes in quotation marks.
IAMFOREVER WROTE:
"um, anything on smackdown is not a push. its the minor league. raw is the flagship show. if you are not on raw, then you suck. i know, i know, taker and benoit. thats been pissing me off for a long time that they are still on smackdown."
I concur with you, that means I agree, that Raw is the flagship show. Smackdown is NOT considered the minor leagues of wrestling what so ever. The minor leagues of wreslting are groups such as ROH, JAPW, numerous NWA affiliates, CZW, etc. Any independant wrestler would kill to have a shot on Smackdown. Smackdown is a world wide promotion. A world wide organization with a regular TV show, championships defended around the world, and sold out arena's is anything but minor league. Just because the show is on Friday nights does not mean it is minor league.
Until 1993 WWF was on Saturday night TV or Saturday morning programming. I guess it just depended what area you live in. That did not make them minor league.
BBB WROTE:
"The only reason that Duce and Domino won the tag titles on Smackdown is because London and Kedrick, took my advice ad are going to go there seperate ways and fight for the Cruserweight belt."
I hope they do fight for the Cruiserweight belt, and I also hope they remain a tag team just to keep up the good quality tag matches.
BBB wrote:
"The only reason that the Undertaker and Benoit are on Smackdown is that if they were not, WWE would end up with two ECWs on there hands. they do not want this. The only ever watch Smackdown if the Undertaker and Benoit are going to be on the show, and then I only watch the matches they are in. If it were not for Undertaker and Benoit, Smckdwon would have no fans and be a crap program like ECW"
People said the same thing after The Rock and Stone Cold retired. They said Raw would go to shit. The ratings did drop a little, but they jumped back up. Why was this? Well, WWE had to build up wrestlers and characters to main event status. Take away Taker and Benoit and you do have a weaker roster, but you also have a solid core of individuals who can jump into main event status in a heart beat. There are lots of wrestlers not being used that have tons of potential to be used the right way. Look at Jericho and Austin in WCW. They were not utilized properly and then WWE used them properly and they took off. Same thing with Eddie.
ECW is getting better. We will NEVER see the original ECW again. McMahon is getting away from that. He is making it "family oriented". ECW is, in most peoples opinion, including mine, the worst of the three shows. Just give it time to develop. You will see some break out stars going through the ECW rankings.
BBB wrote:
"Take for example Lance Cade and Trevor Murrdoch are getting a push and they suck at wrestling. Yet Ric Flair is constantly in crappy undeserving story lines"
Cade and Murdoch are a true tag team. The are a perfect heel team. Lance Cade is one of the best technical wrestlers on the RAW roster. He had to learn, and he learned quickly, how to brawl and be a proper tag wrestler. Remember the Cade and Regal team? Great technical skills. Cade used to be a wrestler that worked one body part an entire match. He was considered an old school guy. He was not the OVW champ for nothing. Murdoch will give you a good match anytime he wrestles. That guy has more talent than you think. He might not be in the best shape, but he uses that for his gimmick.
BBB WROTE:
"WWE needs to switch up the rosters. Put all the great wrestlers on Raw, and put the mid card guys that have a bit of potential and never reach it on smackdown and the fire all the crappy guys that they dislike as much as the fans do"
I have to concur with you, that means agree, that a roster switch would not hurt. Why would you want to fire the crappy guys that the fans do not like? Then you lose your heels. Then you have good guy vs good guy. That would be boring. I would not watch if it was like that. Why fire a guy like Umaga? You lose a talented big guy wrestlers who plays a perfect foreign heel that the fans love to hate.
BBB WROTE:
"OH and they need to have the divas take part in every segment and storyline, which would get the 18-30 age group of fans tuning in each and every week"
I love looking at Divas too, but every segmant would be boring. You might pick up a few 18-30 fans but you will lose a lot of the die hard wrestling fans. Fans like me want to see good wrestling and not just woman rolling around. When I want to see that I come to freeones.com.
IAMFOREVER wrote:
"i say get rid of most. especially the ones who cant wrestle. except torrie, naturally."
I couldnt agree more. Surprisingly Candice has shows great improvement. I actually like watching her wrestle now. The true wrestling ones are Victoria, Mickie James, Melina, and now Candice. I miss Trish and Lita. They both did wonders for the womens division. Maria is GREAT to use for her backstage interview humor. She plays a great ditz and adds comedy for the other male wrestlers during her interviews. WWE needs to check out SHIMMER (the all womens group) These ladies can wrestle like no other and they are hot.
I also agree that they never should have fired Jazz or Molly. I would do Molly. She was not that ugly. Jazz was just hideous but they both could wrestle greatly.
IAMFOREVER WROTE:
"um, anything on smackdown is not a push. its the minor league. raw is the flagship show. if you are not on raw, then you suck. i know, i know, taker and benoit. thats been pissing me off for a long time that they are still on smackdown."
I concur with you, that means I agree, that Raw is the flagship show. Smackdown is NOT considered the minor leagues of wrestling what so ever. The minor leagues of wreslting are groups such as ROH, JAPW, numerous NWA affiliates, CZW, etc. Any independant wrestler would kill to have a shot on Smackdown. Smackdown is a world wide promotion. A world wide organization with a regular TV show, championships defended around the world, and sold out arena's is anything but minor league. Just because the show is on Friday nights does not mean it is minor league.
Until 1993 WWF was on Saturday night TV or Saturday morning programming. I guess it just depended what area you live in. That did not make them minor league.
BBB WROTE:
"The only reason that Duce and Domino won the tag titles on Smackdown is because London and Kedrick, took my advice ad are going to go there seperate ways and fight for the Cruserweight belt."
I hope they do fight for the Cruiserweight belt, and I also hope they remain a tag team just to keep up the good quality tag matches.
BBB wrote:
"The only reason that the Undertaker and Benoit are on Smackdown is that if they were not, WWE would end up with two ECWs on there hands. they do not want this. The only ever watch Smackdown if the Undertaker and Benoit are going to be on the show, and then I only watch the matches they are in. If it were not for Undertaker and Benoit, Smckdwon would have no fans and be a crap program like ECW"
People said the same thing after The Rock and Stone Cold retired. They said Raw would go to shit. The ratings did drop a little, but they jumped back up. Why was this? Well, WWE had to build up wrestlers and characters to main event status. Take away Taker and Benoit and you do have a weaker roster, but you also have a solid core of individuals who can jump into main event status in a heart beat. There are lots of wrestlers not being used that have tons of potential to be used the right way. Look at Jericho and Austin in WCW. They were not utilized properly and then WWE used them properly and they took off. Same thing with Eddie.
ECW is getting better. We will NEVER see the original ECW again. McMahon is getting away from that. He is making it "family oriented". ECW is, in most peoples opinion, including mine, the worst of the three shows. Just give it time to develop. You will see some break out stars going through the ECW rankings.
BBB wrote:
"Take for example Lance Cade and Trevor Murrdoch are getting a push and they suck at wrestling. Yet Ric Flair is constantly in crappy undeserving story lines"
Cade and Murdoch are a true tag team. The are a perfect heel team. Lance Cade is one of the best technical wrestlers on the RAW roster. He had to learn, and he learned quickly, how to brawl and be a proper tag wrestler. Remember the Cade and Regal team? Great technical skills. Cade used to be a wrestler that worked one body part an entire match. He was considered an old school guy. He was not the OVW champ for nothing. Murdoch will give you a good match anytime he wrestles. That guy has more talent than you think. He might not be in the best shape, but he uses that for his gimmick.
BBB WROTE:
"WWE needs to switch up the rosters. Put all the great wrestlers on Raw, and put the mid card guys that have a bit of potential and never reach it on smackdown and the fire all the crappy guys that they dislike as much as the fans do"
I have to concur with you, that means agree, that a roster switch would not hurt. Why would you want to fire the crappy guys that the fans do not like? Then you lose your heels. Then you have good guy vs good guy. That would be boring. I would not watch if it was like that. Why fire a guy like Umaga? You lose a talented big guy wrestlers who plays a perfect foreign heel that the fans love to hate.
BBB WROTE:
"OH and they need to have the divas take part in every segment and storyline, which would get the 18-30 age group of fans tuning in each and every week"
I love looking at Divas too, but every segmant would be boring. You might pick up a few 18-30 fans but you will lose a lot of the die hard wrestling fans. Fans like me want to see good wrestling and not just woman rolling around. When I want to see that I come to freeones.com.
IAMFOREVER wrote:
"i say get rid of most. especially the ones who cant wrestle. except torrie, naturally."
I couldnt agree more. Surprisingly Candice has shows great improvement. I actually like watching her wrestle now. The true wrestling ones are Victoria, Mickie James, Melina, and now Candice. I miss Trish and Lita. They both did wonders for the womens division. Maria is GREAT to use for her backstage interview humor. She plays a great ditz and adds comedy for the other male wrestlers during her interviews. WWE needs to check out SHIMMER (the all womens group) These ladies can wrestle like no other and they are hot.
I also agree that they never should have fired Jazz or Molly. I would do Molly. She was not that ugly. Jazz was just hideous but they both could wrestle greatly.
I know where the multi quote thingy is, my problem is I dont know how to use it. Also, please explain on why you think Smackdown is the minor leagues of wrestling? I realize all wrestling and entertainment likes and dislikes is nothing but opinions. I would just like to see your logic to it.
"1993? weekends at noon? i grew up on that stuff. those were awesome. i just wish they had more than one "real" match. all the rest were against nobodys."
Yes and that did suck when they had the one good match then the main event was something like Hulk Hogan vs. Barry Horwitz for the title. At least ole Barry made a decent living being a jobber his whole life. I always did feel bad for him when he would come out.
Yes and that did suck when they had the one good match then the main event was something like Hulk Hogan vs. Barry Horwitz for the title. At least ole Barry made a decent living being a jobber his whole life. I always did feel bad for him when he would come out.
WTF happened to the Randy Orton vs. Edge match? I saw a 4 hour long killer Cena vs. HBK thing but no Rated RKO brawl?!? Look, I'm all for Divas showing off the bodys and tits, but your going to tell me they will show 2 lame ass chicks have a wrestling match but NOT air the Orton vs Edge match? WTF!!!! I call BS!
bigbadbrody
Banned
This is the first time,e in a long time that I had to work when Raw was airing, and I don't care, that I missed it. I haven't even watched a Smackdwon or an ECW in months.
Is this a sign of the times or what
Is this a sign of the times or what
I was wondering the same thing. I was excited to see Orton vs. Edge! Good thing the Cena vs. HBK match kicked major ass otherwise I would have been pissed even more.
Ah this should answer our question, BeatSauce. I just found this after I posted the last one. This is directly from wwe.com. Tells why Edge vs. Orton did not happen.
"Squaring off for the first time since their tremendous match at WrestleMania 23, Cena and Michaels spent nearly an hour battling it out in the ring in one of the most impressive contests ever seen on Raw. Although other matches were scheduled for the night, including a contest pitting Edge against Randy Orton, the length of the main event left no room for other battles."
"Squaring off for the first time since their tremendous match at WrestleMania 23, Cena and Michaels spent nearly an hour battling it out in the ring in one of the most impressive contests ever seen on Raw. Although other matches were scheduled for the night, including a contest pitting Edge against Randy Orton, the length of the main event left no room for other battles."
bigbadbrody
Banned
Sounds like I should be glad that I didn't watch raw then:rofl:
Iamforever
Banned
again, i never said smackdown is the minor leagues of wrestling. its the minor leagues of wwf. mainly because its on network tv so they have to tone the show down.
then they have a shitty roster. at least to me it does.Actually OVW and DSW (which just shut down last week) are the minor leagues of the WWE.
What you are saying is that YOU don't like Smackdown!
I know myself and lots of others watch Smackdown do to the great wrestling that is on there. You will see more true wrestling on Smackdown than on Raw.
Although Cena vs. Michaels last night was one of the best matches ever. I am not even a Cena fan and I enjoyed it.
I just got got Classie Freddie Blassie's autbiography from the library today.
The title of the book is "Listen Up You Pencil Neck Geeks" I read the first 100 pages earlier today. So far it is an AWESOME read! I suggest it to anyone. Especially those who do not like wrestling or think wrestling is fake. He talks a lot about what him and other wrestlers went through to get through the business we call pro wrestling.
The title of the book is "Listen Up You Pencil Neck Geeks" I read the first 100 pages earlier today. So far it is an AWESOME read! I suggest it to anyone. Especially those who do not like wrestling or think wrestling is fake. He talks a lot about what him and other wrestlers went through to get through the business we call pro wrestling.
bigbadbrody
Banned
More like "Crappy Freddie Blassie"
No, I meant "Classy". If you get a chance watch some of his matches. WWE 24/7 has aired a couple as well as the old WWA. Talk about one tough wrestler. Classy Freddie Blassie was one of, if not the toughest ever. If you would like reasoning to this please do not hesitate to ask.
Oh and don't read what wikipedia writes about him. Wikipedia has A LOT of info wrong about him. Same way that they had the info about Eric Bischoff wrong.
Oh and don't read what wikipedia writes about him. Wikipedia has A LOT of info wrong about him. Same way that they had the info about Eric Bischoff wrong.
Iamforever
Banned
yeah brody, lets stop the freddie bashing. a true legend you "pencil necked-geek"
