WWE Raw & Smackdown Weekly Thread
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Well, streak is over.
I think Taker can't and doesn't want it anymore.
He spent half the match on his back, gasping for air. He could be heard on the live mic's a few times telling Brock and the ref "gimme 5" and " hold on".
I think Vince has seen enough.
Maybe he called in the match to the ref to "bring it home" or end it....
I think Taker can't and doesn't want it anymore.
He spent half the match on his back, gasping for air. He could be heard on the live mic's a few times telling Brock and the ref "gimme 5" and " hold on".
I think Vince has seen enough.
Maybe he called in the match to the ref to "bring it home" or end it....
lose the streak on one of the laziest WM matches 'Taker has had, and to someone who is barely ever there and won't be there in the future? Hilarious, way to end the streak WWE, good idea bros, good idea, top booking right thur. Brock Lesnar didn't need that win. There should have been someone up and coming, someone who would be propelled. What a waste of a streak. What a way to ruin it. nothing can be gained from Blockhead winning that match.
Yeah like I said: they led douche Cena win.
My thoughts on Mania:
1: Hogan is senile, nobody ever give him a live mike again.
2: I like Cesaro winning the Battle Royal.
3: If I had to guess, the streak ending was an ad-lib on 'Taker's part. All of the stalling was a way to give production time to prepare.
4: I don't see D-Bry being a long term champ but at least the "Authority" story line should be dead.
5: I get people shitting on John Cena the gimmick, but I don't get why there is so much hate for John Cena the performer. He does anything that they ask him to do, you never hear of him doing anything stupid outside of the ring and he makes all of his dates. The "no selling" and all of that crap is Creative. Being a face for so long, he has probably hasn't called one of his own matches since he came up from OVW.
1: Hogan is senile, nobody ever give him a live mike again.
2: I like Cesaro winning the Battle Royal.
3: If I had to guess, the streak ending was an ad-lib on 'Taker's part. All of the stalling was a way to give production time to prepare.
4: I don't see D-Bry being a long term champ but at least the "Authority" story line should be dead.
5: I get people shitting on John Cena the gimmick, but I don't get why there is so much hate for John Cena the performer. He does anything that they ask him to do, you never hear of him doing anything stupid outside of the ring and he makes all of his dates. The "no selling" and all of that crap is Creative. Being a face for so long, he has probably hasn't called one of his own matches since he came up from OVW.
And if somebody less established had beaten him, people would be complaining that it was not believable after he had ploughed through relative deities like Shawn Michaels and Triple H year after year. Undertaker losing was a no-win situation in that there would be no scenario that everyone would accept. All they could do when Undertaker said "I can't do this any more" is use the impact of "I ended the streak" to give someone a massive boost. That's Lesnar now, and it enhances his already lofty status for when he says "I now demand that title shot I've been talking about." Which I expect they might put off until SummerSlam. People "up and coming" don't get to beat the Undertaker at WrestleMania when nobody else had. It simply wouldn't be believable. The Undertaker wants to call time on his career, so he went out on his back like you should, against a) a legitimate main event player, b) his friend and someone he respects. No complaints whatsoever here. Somebody "not needing" any win is one of the biggest myths in professional wrestling fandom. It's about telling stories. Did Daniel Bryan need to win the World title when he's already wildly popular and sells t-shirts? No. But he did, because it made for a good story. The Undertaker's story was that for 23 years he was invincible at WrestleMania, but time caught up to him in the end and a juggernaut ran him down. Did Lesnar "need" to beat him? No. But Lesnar is now an even bigger deal than he was 48 hours ago, and that means something when they next try and sell a PPV with him on top.
The idea of one of the biggest matches on the biggest show of the year having its finish changed mid-flow is ludicrous. That match will have been planned out meticulously and executed exactly as they planned. The company leaves no detail to chance. The only times finishes get changed on the fly is when somebody gets legitimately injured and the planned finish becomes impossible i.e. Hunter getting injured in the DX/Rated-RKO match at New Years Revolution 2007. Or Montreal, LOL.
It seems that those rumours all over the years were true...Taker wanted Lesnar to end the streak years ago...and maybe that well-known "you wanna do it" after that UFC match was for that.
I'm not gonna say I wasn't in shock, hell I was like...what the hell???!!! But then, if you think on it it's a good end for Taker. Who better than Lesnar to end it? He's a good wrestler /fighter and like Stiffy says he's a total big deal for the next matches he's going to have.
I'm not gonna say I wasn't in shock, hell I was like...what the hell???!!! But then, if you think on it it's a good end for Taker. Who better than Lesnar to end it? He's a good wrestler /fighter and like Stiffy says he's a total big deal for the next matches he's going to have.
He should have retired with the Streak intact imo, but I just wish it had a better setting if it was going to end after all. It pisses me off that 21 years of building such a monumental streak were for nothing but having it end in the shittiest of matches.
and to a guy who is only gonna be around for 25- 30% of the year and doesn't give two shit about the business except for a paycheck.
and to a guy who is only gonna be around for 25- 30% of the year and doesn't give two shit about the business except for a paycheck.
"Not giving a shit about the business" is weak. The man is on a limited dates contract for a big truckload of money, because the company wanted him back badly so he was able to negotiate a good deal. GOOD FOR HIM. He risks his health for our entertainment every time he gets in the ring just like every other pro wrestler, whether he wrestles three matches a year or three hundred, so the fact he's a "special attraction" doesn't matter a jot to me. Do I want him every week on Raw wrestling Kofi Kingston to the point of nausea and becoming just another guy? No, I fucking don't. WrestleMania is preserved as special because it has talents on it that don't turn up every week on free TV, and Brock Lesnar showing up is a big deal because it doesn't happen every day, regardless of what I think of him as an-ring talent. In terms of what the guy gives, he bumped like crazy in his very first match back with Cena, and he flew around when he let Big Show threw him out of the ring in an angle (not even a match) in the build up to the Royal Rumble. The guy gives it EVERYTHING every time he has to enter a physical appearance in a way that I think only Ziggler does on the full-time roster. Don't tell me Brock Lesnar doesn't care about wrestling or wrestling fans, he takes some nutty bumps trying to make his performance leave an impression. The fact the guys get in the ring and make the effort is enough giving a shit for me, I don't need everyone to care so much about the business they kills themselves for it like Chris Benoit did.
I reckon most of the complaining is just sandy vagina over the fact that it was Brock and not CM Punk. And it find it hilarious that the winner of a match is being ragged on for only having three PPV matches a year when the guy he beat has been only having one for the last four calendar years. I also don't understand how people justify calling Lesnar's ending the streak "pointless" when it does something for Lesnar's future standing (and ability to draw $$$) when the only point to letting him retire with it intact would have been sentiment. You can't make any money off sentiment, and since they already sold a "20-0" DVD, they were never going to make "22-0" if he knew he was knackered and this was his last hurrah. Always go out on your back. Really wish he'd lost to Angle in 2006 as he wanted, so we wouldn't have to read everyone's PMS over it. Although it is making me slightly PMSL.
You'd have thought the smarks would be in heaven with The Shield and Cesaro winning big and Danny Bry basically running the show from start to finish..... but no, if they don't get it ALL their own way, let's take to Twatter and complain about how we're never watching the show again. My arse. I kind of hope Hunter wins the belts tonight to REALLY piss on their chips.
I reckon most of the complaining is just sandy vagina over the fact that it was Brock and not CM Punk. And it find it hilarious that the winner of a match is being ragged on for only having three PPV matches a year when the guy he beat has been only having one for the last four calendar years. I also don't understand how people justify calling Lesnar's ending the streak "pointless" when it does something for Lesnar's future standing (and ability to draw $$$) when the only point to letting him retire with it intact would have been sentiment. You can't make any money off sentiment, and since they already sold a "20-0" DVD, they were never going to make "22-0" if he knew he was knackered and this was his last hurrah. Always go out on your back. Really wish he'd lost to Angle in 2006 as he wanted, so we wouldn't have to read everyone's PMS over it. Although it is making me slightly PMSL.
You'd have thought the smarks would be in heaven with The Shield and Cesaro winning big and Danny Bry basically running the show from start to finish..... but no, if they don't get it ALL their own way, let's take to Twatter and complain about how we're never watching the show again. My arse. I kind of hope Hunter wins the belts tonight to REALLY piss on their chips.
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Ace Bandage
The one and only.
1. Rock, Hogan, and Austin was epic. If I had only seen that last night, it was worth the subscription to the Network.
2. I wish the Shield had more air time last night. But they were fighting the NAO so I was okay with a squash mash. I loved them during the Attitude Era, but they can go the fuck away now.
3. Cena and Wyatt put on a good match even if the crowd never really popped for any of it. I wanted Wyatt to get the win, but I think they're still building this feud. It definitely has potential. I love everything about the Wyatt Family. I hope those two keep going at it.
4. I was stunned when Lesnar won. I would have bet my bank account that Undertaker was going to win that match. Awesome swerve by WWE. It looks like Undertaker is finished. Everyone goes out on their back. It's the nature of the business. And while breaking the streak could have given the rub to a newcomer, I had no problem with Brock getting the honor. If this is the reality era as Triple H claims it is, then there wasn't a more realistic and credible threat to the streak than Lesnar. Obviously, Undertaker was cool with it so I don't see why we shouldn't be. I can't wait to see where they go with Lesnar from here.
5. Battle Royal win for Ceasro was a great spot. I was pleasantly surprised by that match. It was entertaining throughout.
6. I felt bad for the divas. They were sandwiched between Undertaker v. Lesnar and the championship match. A very unenviable spot. Nothing they could have done would have gotten the crowd involved after the match they had just witnessed. Good win for AJ though. I thought for sure she was going to drop the belt. She's the most talented diva. She should be the champ.
6. Awesome moment for Bryan. It was great to see him finally get the win at WM after the journey he started at SummerSlam. He's incredibly over right now. I'm also interested to see where he goes next.
Overall, I thought it was an excellent PPV. I had expected more backstage segments. But most of the action took place in the ring so that's not really something to complain about. I thought WWE hit a homerun last night. Well done to them.
2. I wish the Shield had more air time last night. But they were fighting the NAO so I was okay with a squash mash. I loved them during the Attitude Era, but they can go the fuck away now.
3. Cena and Wyatt put on a good match even if the crowd never really popped for any of it. I wanted Wyatt to get the win, but I think they're still building this feud. It definitely has potential. I love everything about the Wyatt Family. I hope those two keep going at it.
4. I was stunned when Lesnar won. I would have bet my bank account that Undertaker was going to win that match. Awesome swerve by WWE. It looks like Undertaker is finished. Everyone goes out on their back. It's the nature of the business. And while breaking the streak could have given the rub to a newcomer, I had no problem with Brock getting the honor. If this is the reality era as Triple H claims it is, then there wasn't a more realistic and credible threat to the streak than Lesnar. Obviously, Undertaker was cool with it so I don't see why we shouldn't be. I can't wait to see where they go with Lesnar from here.
5. Battle Royal win for Ceasro was a great spot. I was pleasantly surprised by that match. It was entertaining throughout.
6. I felt bad for the divas. They were sandwiched between Undertaker v. Lesnar and the championship match. A very unenviable spot. Nothing they could have done would have gotten the crowd involved after the match they had just witnessed. Good win for AJ though. I thought for sure she was going to drop the belt. She's the most talented diva. She should be the champ.
6. Awesome moment for Bryan. It was great to see him finally get the win at WM after the journey he started at SummerSlam. He's incredibly over right now. I'm also interested to see where he goes next.
Overall, I thought it was an excellent PPV. I had expected more backstage segments. But most of the action took place in the ring so that's not really something to complain about. I thought WWE hit a homerun last night. Well done to them.
ROB! VAN! DAME!
Welcome back.
Little tou long also with Paul Heymen making a big deal about the streak bring over for Taker while Lesnar sat in the ring looking dumb.
Welcome back.
Little tou long also with Paul Heymen making a big deal about the streak bring over for Taker while Lesnar sat in the ring looking dumb.
Hulk gets the right Dome name!
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Cesaro hooks up with Heyman.
Cesaro hooks up with Heyman.
Ace Bandage
The one and only.
Cesaro... Heyman... fucking brilliant... fucking awesome.
Goddamn, dude. WWE is getting everything right.
Goddamn, dude. WWE is getting everything right.
THANK GOD for the Divas fluff. They simply had to go in that slot which served to give the crowd a distraction to allow them to get their breath back, recover from shock and yes, for lots of the assembled masses to take a leak, so that everyone was sufficiently recovered to cheer for Daniel Bryan. The "light relief" pissbreak match is a necessary inclusion they've used in the past, like having the Playboy pillow fight between the two title matches at WMXXII, inserting Melina v Ashley between the Battle Of The Billionaires and the main event at WMXXIII, or having Snooki between Undertaker and John Cena at WMXXVII.
Speaking of Divas.... Paige.
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Good thing Paul Heyman is around because Brock doesn't say much. Gotta be able to use that microphone. Damn, that Lesnar is built like a brick you know what but it was time for Undertaker. Excellent Hall Of Fame induction ceremonies ! Don't buy the PPV anymore but after reading about it, that would have been the one to get. Hope Bryan loses the belt soon. Gotta love HHH being the heel and Stephanie is as beautiful as always !
