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To be fair the Rock did turn around right before he did it...
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To be fair the Rock did turn around right before he did it...
To be fair, Cena was waiting for the Rock to turn around just enough so he could surprise attack him. His finisher doesn't work if the back is turned.
To be fair, Cena better get a Rock Bottom and a People's Elbow at Wrestlemania.
Cena may be a good person outside of WWE but that doesn't make him a good or talented wrestler. If he wants to be a good person then he should go donate to Goodwill, work at a non-profit organization, or volunteer at a homeless shelter and get the fuck out of WWE. I don't want his untalented ass ruining PPVs that I have to spend my hard earned money on, just cause he's a "good dude".
I was thinking the exact same thing
Want some cheese with that whine? :1orglaugh
Cena is the biggest star in wrestling today among full time workers. Everyone acknowledges that. And it is not because he's been pushed hard over the years, it's because he is the most talented guy. He's got the most charisma, cuts great promos, and has really good matches. His moveset may be limited but for what he does, he does it extremely well and he is never careless or reckless and getting his opponents injured. And no one who has worked with him has anything bad to say about the guy. They all say that he loves the business, he works harder than everyone else, and that he deserves his spot.
Cena is this generation's biggest star and that is not going to change so either learn to love it or quit watching wrestling.
It is possible but I think very unlikely. There has not been any real indication that it will happen and if it did there would be no way for Trips to get payback since HBK is retired. I know WWE doesn't always make sense but they seem to step their game up for Wrestlemania and I would be surprised if they pulled the trigger on any angle that is this half-baked.
Yeah it's a fuckin shame that I had to stop watching the company I put so much time and money into cause of one shitty wrestler and it's a shame that others like me were given the same ultimatum, conform to Cena or get out. I stopped watching for a really long time and just barely got back into watching.
I guarantee you that 60% of the crowd agrees with me and when a fuckin guy who's a face gets heel heat that should show you something about his talent. The only reason why Cena has never hurt anybody is cause the most "dangerous" move he does is a sit out powerbomb.... let's see him try to do a Benoit style German Suplex without breaking someone's neck or killing them. And Really? Cena has good matches? HAHAHAHA please, when was the last time he entertained you for 40+ mins? When was the last time he had a match of the year candidate? Like 4 years ago in the match against Shawn Michaels, yea they did go like 45 mins but Cena doesn't have the talent to go that long, simply put, he'll bore the hell out of you.
Cena hasn't been pushed hard?????????? Please, that is the most ignorant statement I've ever heard, apparently you haven't been watching for a long time so let me give you a little history lesson.... Cena beat JBL for the title in 7 fucking minutes, and JBL was a guy who beat EVERYONE, if beating the top guy in 7 fucking minutes in a shit match, at WRESTLEMANIA nonetheless, doesn't count as a push then what does? Also Cena had been pushed down the throats of the fans so much that he got heel heat, he didn't get famous for having a great hell in a cell match, taking a bump off a ladder into a table, having good, entertaining matches, he got famous for being Vince's cash cow and a Superhero that could never lose which caused most of the true fans to leave WWE. Seriously, how in the hell can you be a Cena fan? Are you a 7 year old kid with a fetish for armbands and oversized flamboyantly colored T-shirts, cause those are seriously the only Cena fans I've ever seen.
:clap: Seriously. Everything here is correct. Face it - Cena is shoved down everyone's throats - despite the fact that at least half of the crowd continually boos the shit out of him. - 'Oh, but that goes to show that he's so good, huh? Withstanding all the 'hatas'? - No. It's because 95% of his fans are either under the age of 12 or female groupies who think he's cute, and since he's popular they love him even more. At that age they just go with whatever is pushed at them most (true in all pop culture), and since all the other kids are into it - yay. Meanwhile, the long-time fans are increasingly fed up with the garbage. So that leaves even more seats open for more kids - which is what we see today. People who think he's the top guy because he's 'the best' are seriously deluding theirselves (or has been deluded by Vince and co.), or, as stated above, they simply haven't been watching long enough to know any better.
Many of these are likely the same kinds of people who think that because something gets played on the radio a lot, then that must mean those are the best artists out there (and not because the music industry pushes certain easy-to-swallow 'acts'). Popular rarely equals better.
But hey, we know how it is: You can have an opinon, but only if it matches with that of the majority. Otherwise...yous jus hatins.
Yes, I might just give up one day and never watch again, but until then, I'm gonna complain my motherfuckin ass off about the company that so many fans helped build and grow and even make it to this century.
You misunderstand me, I said that he is a big success because he is the best guy, not because he's been pushed hard. In fact, I would say that he is pushed hard BECAUSE he is the best guy. Talent wins out. That's why he makes the most money and that's why he makes the most money for WWE.
Anyway, Cena is not my favorite guy, I just recognize that he deserves the spot he has.
When I was a kid it was Hogan and Warrior who were the superheroes and I thought they were the best thing ever! Cena is the same thing for today's children. I don't see why that is such a bad thing. WWE is trying to build a new generation of fans that will grow up with the product just like I did. They don't care about the bitter old guys who bitch about someone getting the superhero push or the PG rating.
In my mind the WWE roster is as strong as it has ever been top to bottom and Cena is leading the way.
Anyway, Cena is not my favorite guy, I just recognize that he deserves the spot he has.
When I was a kid it was Hogan and Warrior who were the superheroes and I thought they were the best thing ever! Cena is the same thing for today's children. I don't see why that is such a bad thing. WWE is trying to build a new generation of fans that will grow up with the product just like I did. They don't care about the bitter old guys who bitch about someone getting the superhero push or the PG rating.
In my mind the WWE roster is as strong as it has ever been top to bottom and Cena is leading the way.
I agree Cena is the top man too, but there are some good up comers that are working hard for that spot such as Morrison, Orton & Barret. Its just too bad WWE wont push these guys up to champion status yet. I guess cuz the kids love Cena :dunno:
& yes I know Orton has held gold a few times but he's more popular now than ever before and who has the title
& yes I know Orton has held gold a few times but he's more popular now than ever before and who has the title
I'm glad that most agree with me on the Cena issue, but I'm not saying he's not the top guy, he is the top guy and all you have to do is look at each Wrestlemania from 21 to now. And I mean I really don't hate the guy, yeah I hate his character and I hate the WWE era he stands for, I'm sure he is a nice guy in real life and I really can't blame the guy for taking advantage of the situation he was put in. I'm just seriously pissed off at WWE, I hate the Cena character and the PG era that coincides with him.
Why did WWE make me sit through all those matches if they were only going to push Cena, I remember ORDERING a span of about 6 pay per views hoping they'd past the belt on to at least one up and comer, but no, Cena won all six pay per views, that was when I had had enough. It seriously took them about 3 or 4 years to complete the turn to PG, they should have just said look, we're gonna push Cena until all you Attitude fans leave and you can forget about the wrestling you once knew and loved, we're not going to push the MUCH BETTER talent and somewhat younger talent we have like Shelton Benjamin, Charlie Haas, Lashely, Kurt Angle, MVP, Carlito, Morrison, Punk, Kingston, etc. There is so much talent that would have been great for WWE but they all fell in favor of Cena, I can't even list all of them it is such a huge list. Can you imagine having at least 5 more stars there that could have been pushed instead of Cena, we'd have a whole roster of stars, and not have to rely on a non-main eventer performing in the main event at Wrestlemania, cough---Miz. Cena's reign of terror is also the reason why when their three top (hhh, Cena, Orton) guys can't carry the load, they have to rely on guys like Sheamus, Miz, Swagger to carry the championship, it's alarming at how WWE is not creating new talent and that's cause they focus to much on super Cena who won't put anyone over because he won't lose or turn heel, everyone that Cena drops the title to is already over with the fans, HHH, RVD, Orton, it's ridiculous.
Why did WWE make me sit through all those matches if they were only going to push Cena, I remember ORDERING a span of about 6 pay per views hoping they'd past the belt on to at least one up and comer, but no, Cena won all six pay per views, that was when I had had enough. It seriously took them about 3 or 4 years to complete the turn to PG, they should have just said look, we're gonna push Cena until all you Attitude fans leave and you can forget about the wrestling you once knew and loved, we're not going to push the MUCH BETTER talent and somewhat younger talent we have like Shelton Benjamin, Charlie Haas, Lashely, Kurt Angle, MVP, Carlito, Morrison, Punk, Kingston, etc. There is so much talent that would have been great for WWE but they all fell in favor of Cena, I can't even list all of them it is such a huge list. Can you imagine having at least 5 more stars there that could have been pushed instead of Cena, we'd have a whole roster of stars, and not have to rely on a non-main eventer performing in the main event at Wrestlemania, cough---Miz. Cena's reign of terror is also the reason why when their three top (hhh, Cena, Orton) guys can't carry the load, they have to rely on guys like Sheamus, Miz, Swagger to carry the championship, it's alarming at how WWE is not creating new talent and that's cause they focus to much on super Cena who won't put anyone over because he won't lose or turn heel, everyone that Cena drops the title to is already over with the fans, HHH, RVD, Orton, it's ridiculous.
C'mon now. WWE has created a shitload of new talent during the "Cena era."
OK. Shelton, Haas, and Lashley all sucked on the mic so you can't push those guys over Cena (who is great on the mic.) Angle was too fucked up on drugs. Carlito had a shitty attitude despite the fact that WWE tried to push him a zillion times. In fact, he won the US title his first night on Smackdown (beating CENA mind you) and won the IC title his first night on Raw. He even held the tag titles with Ric Flair. Morrison is getting pushed so I don't know what your gripe is there and Punk has won the belt 3 times and is a top heel. I do think WWE dropped the ball on MVP and I think they are wasting Kofi but overall I'd say their track record is pretty good as far as who gets pushed and who doesn't.
I just want to point out how you contradicted yourself there. You bitch about the new talent WWE has created and then you bitch about how WWE is not creating new talent.
:1orglaughThe fact is that you've got two up and coming stars (Miz and Del Rio) in title matches at Wrestlemania. There really isn't anything bigger than that.
And Miz is in a program with Cena (the top guy of today) and the fucking ROCK (maybe the top guy ever) so if you don't think Miz is getting pushed and getting the rub from these guys then I don't know what to tell you.
How many main eventers were created? And they could have had guys like John Morrison and Dolph Ziggler easily be where Miz is, but because Miz is a showtime spokesperson, they kept the title on him. They care more about promoting oneself than actual wrestling. Oops, I'm sorry, they're not wrestlers. Entertainers. *snicker*
Miz is a fucking AFTERTHOUGHT in the match at Mania. Him being champion is irrelevant. The WWE is focusing squarely on Cena/Rock, and that's easy to see.
I'm not contradicting myself, those guys weren't over when they won their respective championships, and that's the problem, they're not being solidified as main eventers. Do you seriously think that Swagger could have carried the WWE for about a year, getting in and out of title feuds and having people actually take him seriously as a main eventer? No... and that's why he dropped the title in less than three months and has been a mid carder up until this Michael Cole feud which is pathetically being advertised as main event status. I'm willing to bet that this is the exact same thing that will happen to Miz and Rio, even though I think Rio is vastly talented, there haven't been any huge feuds that have put either of them over with the fans and solidy them as top guys that can stay in the title picture and not dropping to mid card. Evolution was a great example of building talent, HHH put both Orton and Batista over, and if Batista was in WWE still, they'd both be main event status just because so much time and effort was put into that story line, they didn't just decide to hand them the titles all of a sudden.
Oh and if you think Morrison is getting "pushed" because he is being wasted in the fucking gimmick match, then you are sadly mistaken, they're wasting both the talent of him and Dolph.
Oh and if you think Morrison is getting "pushed" because he is being wasted in the fucking gimmick match, then you are sadly mistaken, they're wasting both the talent of him and Dolph.
