Would any of you guys have Sex with a Shemale ?

  • Yes:

    Votes: 1,350 42.2%
  • No:

    Votes: 1,517 47.4%
  • Only if I was Drunk and nobody found out.

    Votes: 383 12.0%

  • Total voters
    3,198
im just attracted to the shemales that have very feminine qualitys among other people who like shemales i dont see whats wrong with that oh well =D
 
Sure,,but the shemale has to be the Beautiful Kimber James
 
Why don´t you guys read what TrueTranssexual is actually writing instead of misinterpret it.

Sorry, my english writing isn´t good enough to participate in the discussion. I just wonder why you distort her words.
 
I've got a few questions for TrueTranssexual...

I'm going to assume (well, I don't think I have to assume anything, since it's kind of obvious from your replies in this & other threads) that you're a transsexual.

This means that you have chosen to have both male and female body parts, unlike hermafrodites who are actually born with both genders and usually get surgery as soon as they can.

I can understand that there are men and women who are uncomfortable with their own gender and prefer to be the opposite gender. So my question to you is wether you want to stay like this or if you want to become fully female (assuming you were male to begin with)?

How do you define gay?
Do you consider platonic love between two men to be gay?
Do you consider it gay if something that looks like a phallus but is in fact inorganic (rubber or plastic) enters a male body? (either mouth or asshole)
Do you consider it gay of an actual penis enters another male's body? (either mouth or asshole)

Homosexuality is a man prefers other men. These men can love eachother mentally or physically (brobably both). You have the sexual organs of a man. Our species only has 2 genders, with the exception of hermafrodites, but they too can reproduce only in 1 way (they cannot choose to impregnate a girl today & become pregnant themselves the next day).

Many men are obsessed with breasts, and big breasts are a sign of femininity to them, but even they will say what really decides what gender you are is defined by what you have between your legs.

Fucking someone with a dick, no matter if this person has breasts & no matter if this person thinks like a girl, is considered to be gay. It's no different than fucking or being fucked a man.

Of course this is not a problem, as people who like this have as much right to do what they want as I or anyone else does, but that doesn't make it any less gay.

Of course straight men and men denying the fact that they might in fact be bisexual will make statements like "yuck no, that's gay", just like other men will make statements like "yuck no, that woman could be my grandmother" (granny porn) or "yuck no, that woman looks more like a cow with scarred udders than like a woman" (in case of women with fake breasts)...

People do this to make clear what social group they belong to and what's acceptable and inacceptable in that social group. You often see teenagers bashing one kind of music or clothing so that everyone knows that's not acceptable in their social group. This is natural, to both teenagers and adults, although it's generally less obvious amongst adults.

What bothers me about your replies is that you seem to fight for the acceptance of transsexuals. There's nothing wrong with that, but as soon as someone uses the word gay, you go into the defensive, as if you dislike the fact that a majority of the people believe that a sexual act with someone who has a dick is gay.

You seem to be fighting for the rights of transsexuals, people who have at least physically chosen to be like this, but you seem to despise homosexuality, otherwise you wouldn't be disgusted with the idea that many people associate one with the other. So you are in fact bashing one group of people and, I'm sorry to say this, but it's true, doing little good for the other group.

I know that you are an individual and I also know that for many people having both breasts and a penis is only temporary, until they have enough money to change the bodyparts they want gone or added, after which this whole discussion no longer applies. But a lot of people don't see you as an individual, but as a representative of transsexuals and I personally don't think that an intolerant person is the right spokesperson for this group of people.
 
I've got a few questions for TrueTranssexual...

I'm going to assume (well, I don't think I have to assume anything, since it's kind of obvious from your replies in this & other threads) that you're a transsexual.

This means that you have chosen to have both male and female body parts, unlike hermafrodites who are actually born with both genders and usually get surgery as soon as they can.

I can understand that there are men and women who are uncomfortable with their own gender and prefer to be the opposite gender. So my question to you is wether you want to stay like this or if you want to become fully female (assuming you were male to begin with)?

I am a "true transsexual" in the classic sense. I eventually will complete sex-reassignment.

You make a clear distinction between transsexuals and hermaphrodites (the preferred name for them is intersexuals), because transsexuals choose medical intervention. Actually, more often than commonly thought, the two are interlinked. For example, I was born XXY karyotype, which qualifies under an intersex condition...but I am transsexual because I need medical intervention, like other transsexuals, to correct my biological sex to be more in congruence with my gender. For me is no more of a choice than having diabetes, for example, and taking medicine. While taking the medicine is a choice, it is much needed.


How do you define gay?
Do you consider platonic love between two men to be gay?
Do you consider it gay if something that looks like a phallus but is in fact inorganic (rubber or plastic) enters a male body? (either mouth or asshole)
Do you consider it gay of an actual penis enters another male's body? (either mouth or asshole)

A homosexual man is someone who is only, or at least predominantly, only attracted to members of their own sex. If a woman is penetrating a man, it doesn't change the fact that she's a woman.

The thing is that being gay is a lot more than just who you have sex with. I know gay men that have had sex with women, and even had kids, but that doesn't make them any less gay. And I wouldn't say they are bisexual, because there attraction is predominantly to men. However, there is a double standand, a gay man that has sex with a woman can remain gay. But if a straight man has sex with another man, if only once in a lifetime, he is labeled gay for the rest of his life.:rolleyes: I don't believe this is the case, as many men have engaged in homosexual acts, in prison for instance or experimenting when young, but their main attraction remains towards women, qualifying them as straight and not really bisexual.


Homosexuality is a man prefers other men. These men can love eachother mentally or physically (brobably both). You have the sexual organs of a man. Our species only has 2 genders, with the exception of hermafrodites, but they too can reproduce only in 1 way (they cannot choose to impregnate a girl today & become pregnant themselves the next day).

Many men are obsessed with breasts, and big breasts are a sign of femininity to them, but even they will say what really decides what gender you are is defined by what you have between your legs.

I assume you meant "sex," not gender, because the two are different things. Sex is about what biological sexual traits you pocess, and gender is more of a psychological and social identification issue. Yes, while it is true that many men think like that, there are also many that do see it as a birth condition that shouldn't stop them from seeing them as women.

Fucking someone with a dick, no matter if this person has breasts & no matter if this person thinks like a girl, is considered to be gay. It's no different than fucking or being fucked a man.

Of course this is not a problem, as people who like this have as much right to do what they want as I or anyone else does, but that doesn't make it any less gay.

That's an opinion, not a fact. Most men do see a difference between fucking a shemale, and gettting fucked in the ass by Arnold Schwarzenegger for instance. So I disagree with your assertion that is the same thing, because it is not. The same men that get turned on by shemales, don't get turned on by another dude's hairy ass, masculine body, scent, etc.


Of course straight men and men denying the fact that they might in fact be bisexual will make statements like "yuck no, that's gay", just like other men will make statements like "yuck no, that woman could be my grandmother" (granny porn) or "yuck no, that woman looks more like a cow with scarred udders than like a woman" (in case of women with fake breasts)...

People do this to make clear what social group they belong to and what's acceptable and inacceptable in that social group. You often see teenagers bashing one kind of music or clothing so that everyone knows that's not acceptable in their social group. This is natural, to both teenagers and adults, although it's generally less obvious amongst adults.

Sorry, but I don't think is natural for people to bash others in order to establish a social identity. That comes from a desire to fit in, especially when society affords advantages to fitting into that particular group. Our society creates this, and not nature.

What bothers me about your replies is that you seem to fight for the acceptance of transsexuals. There's nothing wrong with that, but as soon as someone uses the word gay, you go into the defensive, as if you dislike the fact that a majority of the people believe that a sexual act with someone who has a dick is gay.

You seem to be fighting for the rights of transsexuals, people who have at least physically chosen to be like this, but you seem to despise homosexuality, otherwise you wouldn't be disgusted with the idea that many people associate one with the other. So you are in fact bashing one group of people and, I'm sorry to say this, but it's true, doing little good for the other group.

I know that you are an individual and I also know that for many people having both breasts and a penis is only temporary, until they have enough money to change the bodyparts they want gone or added, after which this whole discussion no longer applies. But a lot of people don't see you as an individual, but as a representative of transsexuals and I personally don't think that an intolerant person is the right spokesperson for this group of people.

No. I do not despise homosexuality. I'm am sorry you are getting this wrong idea. The people that are accusing others of being gay and calling them "faggots" are the ones that really despise it, not me. However, what this people don't get is that homosexuality and transsexuality are two very different things, and the only things that links both is actually their homophobia. While it is true that many gay men pocess transgender characteristics (act feminine, etc.), their gender identification remains as men and they do not want to change that.

If a man sees a shemale, and is attracted to the feminine characteristics, and later finds out that she has a dick, that doesn't change the fact that the feminine characteristics are still there. Some men that are very into pussy might get turned off, but others who like anal sex or just want a blowjob, might overlook it. If a man is attracted mainly because of the dick, however, then it is more of a bisexual attraction. Gay men on the other hand, are not generally turned on by transsexuals, they want men that look the same sex, and not something that reminds them of the opposite sex.

Personally, I don't find the idea of penetrating a man or having a man interested in the male part, arousing at all. I like it when a man treats me as he would any woman, and ignores that part..until I can get it corrected. But that's me. All the men that I have been involved, identified as straight and went back to genetic girls. When they met me, they liked what they saw and accepted that I had that predicament. They were never interested in the male part. On the other hand, the men who have shown interest in the male part turned me off, because I am not comfortable with that aspect as it reminds me of a male sexuality that I cannot reconcile and seek to change. But that may be because I am a true transsexual after all.

Unfortunately, if people didn't think something was wrong with being gay, they wouldn't attack others who do not identify as such with words such as "faggots." My problem with this comes because this mentality affects many people in real life. Many men, for instance, mistreat transgender/transsexual woman merely because they are afraid of being perceived as gay. Many relationships also have to be kept private, because of this same nonsense. I have experienced this first hand, for example, many men treat me differently when we are alone than when we are around other people who may know about me.

I just want people to be themselves, without fearing being attacked for it by the sex police/bullies. If you are not turned on by shemales, fine...go fuck whatever turns you on if it's legal. But why attack those who are, simply because you are not?? Obviously a man who is predominantly attracted to biological women can't be gay, even though there is nothing wrong with being gay either. But, unfortunately, many straight men take offense at being labeled gay, and thats what give this people the power.

I find it so hypocritical how some here think is OK for those against shemales and their fans to call others "faggots," but not for me to challenge that assertion, because in their minds they think insulting people with homophobic and transphobic expletives is just another form of them expressing "their honest opinion." Well, I have an honest opinion too! ...And at least I don't have to insult people to get an "honest opinion" across!
 
Interesting new article...


Man's 'secret love' of transsexual women: Do new trends predict a second sexual revolution?

August 27, 4:10 PM Phoenix Transsexual Relationships Examiner Madison Claire


PART 1 of 2


“Whether they want to admit it or not, the numbers on the web show us that there’s definite interest,” says Alex Ladd, co-owner and head of production for DVSX.com. In an interview with adult-industry newssource Xbiz.com, Ladd couched the trend in the language of his trade: “Straight men want trannies.”

Research gathered from more than a dozen major sources – including Alexa, Google and Internet World Stats – reveals that nearly 190 million heterosexual men are attracted to transsexual women and actively seek romantic contact with or sexually explicit images of them annually.

“The Internet really has made the whole thing more popular in the last few years,” says Steven Gallon, owner of Grooby Productions, one of the first transsexual sites launched a decade ago. “You’re now seeing [transsexuals] in mainstream advertising and on TV shows. That and the Internet have made it [socially acceptable for transsexuals] to be out there on display.”

Such displays come as no surprise to Hollywood darling Seth Rogen, star of such films as Knocked Up, Pineapple Express and Observe & Report. “One thing I’ve learned through various mainstream sex sites is that way more guys are into transsexual porn than one would like to think,” Rogan told Maxim last October. “I feel like it’s the elephant in America’s room: the secret love of transsexual porno.”

Size Matters: The Global Trans Market

Secret or not, the phenomenon is not an exclusively American one. Although comprised predominately of single, middle-class residents of the US, UK, Australia and Canada, these transsexual “admirers,” as they’re called, can also be found in major metropolitan cities throughout South America, Europe and Asia.

According to the latest Internet statistics, interest in “transsexual” topics has risen more than 5,000 percent in the past five years, and interest in “transsexual dating” has surged more than 400 percent. In the past 90 days alone, combined traffic from the top 10 adult sites and top 10 dating sites catering exclusively to trans-loving males has risen 350 percent. While some crossover invariably exists, heterosexual male visitors to these 20 websites now top 188 million annually. And this figure doesn’t include traffic counts from the additional 300+ transsexual sites already in existence or from new ones being created by mainstream giants like Hustler.

But it’s the “heterosexual male” descriptor that continues to baffle many observers – or so they claim. Might they, too, be harboring a “ trans-secret?” Gallon thinks they might be: “The majority of customers [who purchase transsexual porn] are straight men.” In fact, Gallon says, “[transsexual content generates] practically no response in the gay market at all. I don’t even bother to promote it to the gay market, because it would be a waste of money.” Not only are most of his customers heterosexual men, Gallon says, “some are movie stars, rock stars and sports figures” – guys most would consider “heterosexual role models."

Let me tell you, it’s not gay,” agrees Keith Webb, co-owner and vice president of gay powerhouse Titan Media. “Gay men do not want to watch [transsexual women]. It’s straight men who want to watch it.” And to all those adult-videostore managers out there who place transsexual titles alongside gay ones, Webb has some friendly advice: “Get it the hell out!”


The Trans-Cash Caravan: “Outselling Everything ”

According to Ladd, transsexual content has become a “really hip and viable source of income over the last two to three years. … Major production companies have jumped on the [transsexual] bandwagon, including Vivid, Anabolic, Caballero, Metro Interactive and Red Light District, to name a few.”

One of the caravan’s newest members, David K of PimpRoll hitched up his wagon only this month. In a recent interview with reporter Stephen Yagielowicz, K revealed that, while his company considered launching each of its seven new transsexual websites “on a longer time frame, the [transsexual] niche is so hot right now that we have decided to go for maximum impact all at once.”

For some in the biz, transsexual material is now outpacing mainstream material in both overall sales and market growth. Even traditional print-media behemoths Penthouse and Hustler have begun to spotlight transsexual women in full-blown features. Not to be outdone online, Hustler announced as recently as June 2009 the creation of its first transsexual-only adult website, even as more traditional outlets continue to increase their coverage of the, uhm, “less-revealing” side of transsexualism. Google Analytics reveals that, of the nearly 30,000 transsexual-related news stories published in the mainstream media over the past 45 years, more than half (15,100) have surfaced in the past five years alone. As if this weren’t telling enough, many of Nielsen’s top-rated cable and broadcast television shows – including CSI, America’s Next Top Model, America’s Got Talent, Ugly Betty, and Dirty, Sexy Money – now also feature transsexual characters (as of last season).


http://www.examiner.com/x-18935-Pho...new-trends-predict-a-second-Sexual-Revolution
 

biomech

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I wouldn't, I prefer female's.
I won't criticize other people's answer's though.
Different stroke's. :dunno:
 
This Thread and the fact that it has reached 62 pages just goes to show you how fucked this world really is. Heres to when it all ends :glugglug:
 

Supafly

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This Thread and the fact that it has reached 62 pages just goes to show you how fucked this world really is. Heres to when it all ends :glugglug:

But I bet it will go on to at least 100 pages :rolleyes:

And, as for my answer to the original question:

No, I wouldn't.
 
Consenting adults having sex the way they want to shows you how fucked up this world really is?:rolleyes:



No.. A man getting to a point in his life where he wants to tuck his cock in between is legs, cut is dick off, or get a set of tits and parade around dressed as a female is just a small part of the grim state this world is in. But thats just a crazy thought for you I am sure, I mean after all how could you or anyone justify their actions if they had to acknowledge them for what they actually are. And you can just save your bullshit replies for another member that I see you enjoy harassing. This forum is for discussing things pertaining to Beautiful women in their at least somewhat natural state. If you want to discuss your deformity then do it somewhere you are wanted

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I am a "true transsexual" in the classic sense. I eventually will complete sex-reassignment.

You make a clear distinction between transsexuals and hermaphrodites (the preferred name for them is intersexuals), because transsexuals choose medical intervention. Actually, more often than commonly thought, the two are interlinked. For example, I was born XXY karyotype, which qualifies under an intersex condition...but I am transsexual because I need medical intervention, like other transsexuals, to correct my biological sex to be more in congruence with my gender. For me is no more of a choice than having diabetes, for example, and taking medicine. While taking the medicine is a choice, it is much needed.

In rare cases, transsexualism and sexual chromosomal multiplicity coexist, but it is very rare... (it has only been reported 6 times for men wanting to become women...)

http://www.find-health-articles.com/rec_pub_11094147-female-male-transsexual-47-xxx-karyotype.htm

I am a "true transsexual" in the classic sense. I eventually will complete sex-reassignment. A homosexual man is someone who is only, or at least predominantly, only attracted to members of their own sex. If a woman is penetrating a man, it doesn't change the fact that she's a woman.

But a true woman cannot penetrate a man without the help of artificial toys, if one excludes fingers, but that usually isn't seen as real penetration.

The thing is that being gay is a lot more than just who you have sex with. I know gay men that have had sex with women, and even had kids, but that doesn't make them any less gay. And I wouldn't say they are bisexual, because there attraction is predominantly to men. However, there is a double standand, a gay man that has sex with a woman can remain gay. But if a straight man has sex with another man, if only once in a lifetime, he is labeled gay for the rest of his life.:rolleyes: I don't believe this is the case, as many men have engaged in homosexual acts, in prison for instance or experimenting when young, but their main attraction remains towards women, qualifying them as straight and not really bisexual.

A gay man that has sex with a woman is usually forced to do so by his peers. If he had a choice, he'd never sleep with the woman to begin with. He is gay, but the act isn't.

A man that has sex with another man but likes women as well, is a bisexual, but the act of sleeping with a man still remains gay/homosexual.

I assume you meant "sex," not gender, because the two are different things. Sex is about what biological sexual traits you pocess, and gender is more of a psychological and social identification issue. Yes, while it is true that many men think like that, there are also many that do see it as a birth condition that shouldn't stop them from seeing them as women.

1.) (obsolete) A division between classes or kinds. E.g., the common gender.
2.) differences between men and women, suggesting but not necessitating reference to sex
3.) (sociology) gender role; culture specific behaviour norms, normally but not necessarily, associated with one’s sex; condition of adopting such a gender role.
4.) (grammar) A division of nouns and pronouns (and sometimes of other parts of speech), such as masculine, feminine, neuter or common.
5.) (casually, to avoid confusion with ‘sex’ in the sense of ‘sexual relations’) The sex of individuals (male or female).

You are referring to 3, the gender role, while I was using the word more casually....

Even though I agree that if someone feels like a woman he or she should be treated like a women if we don't take any physical traits into account, this isn't possible in any physical relationship, since you're physically not a woman (yet).

That's an opinion, not a fact. Most men do see a difference between fucking a shemale, and gettting fucked in the ass by Arnold Schwarzenegger for instance. So I disagree with your assertion that is the same thing, because it is not. The same men that get turned on by shemales, don't get turned on by another dude's hairy ass, masculine body, scent, etc.

It's an opinion supported by a large majority of the people, so when you say most men, I think you're saying there are men, but there are relatively few of them.

There are quite a few closet cases around who won't openly admit to being bisexual or gay, so they'll turn down anyone who looks to masculine. But wether they deny it or not, they still are either bisexual or gay.

A lot of gay men prefer other men that are skinny and have feminine traits, but that doesn't make them any less gay.

Sorry, but I don't think is natural for people to bash others in order to establish a social identity. That comes from a desire to fit in, especially when society affords advantages to fitting into that particular group. Our society creates this, and not nature.

It's partially created and partially natural. A lonely creature is an easy target for predators, so it'll do anything it can to fit in a certain group. Groups base themselves on material things these days (music, clothes, etc), but the act of forming a group and the act of being hostile towards other groups is quite natural and I'd even dare say it's pure instinct. Just take a look at two different groups of monkeys (same species). The first thing they'll do as soon as they notice eachother is attack.

If a man sees a shemale, and is attracted to the feminine characteristics, and later finds out that she has a dick, that doesn't change the fact that the feminine characteristics are still there. Some men that are very into pussy might get turned off, but others who like anal sex or just want a blowjob, might overlook it. If a man is attracted mainly because of the dick, however, then it is more of a bisexual attraction. Gay men on the other hand, are not generally turned on by transsexuals, they want men that look the same sex, and not something that reminds them of the opposite sex.

Indeed some might & will. These people obviously have the ability to focus only on a part of you & not the whole package (sorry to state it like that), as you're not entirely female yet.

Unfortunately, if people didn't think something was wrong with being gay, they wouldn't attack others who do not identify as such with words such as "faggots." My problem with this comes because this mentality affects many people in real life. Many men, for instance, mistreat transgender/transsexual woman merely because they are afraid of being perceived as gay. Many relationships also have to be kept private, because of this same nonsense. I have experienced this first hand, for example, many men treat me differently when we are alone than when we are around other people who may know about me.

I agree that there should be more tolerance & acceptance, but this isn't limited to gay men & transsexuals. Just check some other threads here and see how the women who give us what we obviously want (otherwise we wouldn't be here) are treated verbally. You can hardly call a girl a pornstar anymore, even if she is, because it borders an insult. Sure, dirty talk & rough behavior might be acceptable in the bedroom or wherever it is that you like to fuck, but these are first & foremost women who happen to be pornstars (as a profession). Prostitutes are treated even worse than pornstars...

I personally find this strange, since if these men & women who abuse others make use of what these others offer, they should be happy instead of agressive and if they don't make use of what these others offer, why are they so agressive towards these people.

Still, even though I've defended the right of gay people to marry here on this board, even though I've made clear that I do not like it when people call pornstars sluts, bitches, etc. little has changed (nothing at all, really)...

You can shout, you can yell, you can do whatever you want, but people will never change their minds or the ways they act. The opposite is true however, it'll only convince those people that they are right and more importantly, it'll draw unwanted attention.

I find it so hypocritical how some here think is OK for those against shemales and their fans to call others "faggots," but not for me to challenge that assertion, because in their minds they think insulting people with homophobic and transphobic expletives is just another form of them expressing "their honest opinion." Well, I have an honest opinion too! ...And at least I don't have to insult people to get an "honest opinion" across!

It isn't ok, but it's not going to help if you start thinking in the same way they do & yes you do. You believe their way of thinking is wrong & that you are right. The only difference is that you use different, less offensive words.
 
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