TheKeyWestWanderer
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I put you on the ignore list and I suggest you do the same, but I really wanted to see how you twisted my words again.
Ive been reading this thread & he seems very good at that
What is his problem?
I put you on the ignore list and I suggest you do the same, but I really wanted to see how you twisted my words again.
I've got a few questions for TrueTranssexual...
I'm going to assume (well, I don't think I have to assume anything, since it's kind of obvious from your replies in this & other threads) that you're a transsexual.
This means that you have chosen to have both male and female body parts, unlike hermafrodites who are actually born with both genders and usually get surgery as soon as they can.
I can understand that there are men and women who are uncomfortable with their own gender and prefer to be the opposite gender. So my question to you is wether you want to stay like this or if you want to become fully female (assuming you were male to begin with)?
How do you define gay?
Do you consider platonic love between two men to be gay?
Do you consider it gay if something that looks like a phallus but is in fact inorganic (rubber or plastic) enters a male body? (either mouth or asshole)
Do you consider it gay of an actual penis enters another male's body? (either mouth or asshole)
Homosexuality is a man prefers other men. These men can love eachother mentally or physically (brobably both). You have the sexual organs of a man. Our species only has 2 genders, with the exception of hermafrodites, but they too can reproduce only in 1 way (they cannot choose to impregnate a girl today & become pregnant themselves the next day).
Many men are obsessed with breasts, and big breasts are a sign of femininity to them, but even they will say what really decides what gender you are is defined by what you have between your legs.
Fucking someone with a dick, no matter if this person has breasts & no matter if this person thinks like a girl, is considered to be gay. It's no different than fucking or being fucked a man.
Of course this is not a problem, as people who like this have as much right to do what they want as I or anyone else does, but that doesn't make it any less gay.
Of course straight men and men denying the fact that they might in fact be bisexual will make statements like "yuck no, that's gay", just like other men will make statements like "yuck no, that woman could be my grandmother" (granny porn) or "yuck no, that woman looks more like a cow with scarred udders than like a woman" (in case of women with fake breasts)...
People do this to make clear what social group they belong to and what's acceptable and inacceptable in that social group. You often see teenagers bashing one kind of music or clothing so that everyone knows that's not acceptable in their social group. This is natural, to both teenagers and adults, although it's generally less obvious amongst adults.
What bothers me about your replies is that you seem to fight for the acceptance of transsexuals. There's nothing wrong with that, but as soon as someone uses the word gay, you go into the defensive, as if you dislike the fact that a majority of the people believe that a sexual act with someone who has a dick is gay.
You seem to be fighting for the rights of transsexuals, people who have at least physically chosen to be like this, but you seem to despise homosexuality, otherwise you wouldn't be disgusted with the idea that many people associate one with the other. So you are in fact bashing one group of people and, I'm sorry to say this, but it's true, doing little good for the other group.
I know that you are an individual and I also know that for many people having both breasts and a penis is only temporary, until they have enough money to change the bodyparts they want gone or added, after which this whole discussion no longer applies. But a lot of people don't see you as an individual, but as a representative of transsexuals and I personally don't think that an intolerant person is the right spokesperson for this group of people.
And if the dick is bigger than yours, that also means she is more of a man than you are. Nevermind that she probably has more balls than you anyway.
Haha!! How did I know someone would respond that way? When all else fails, go with the small dick argument.
This Thread and the fact that it has reached 62 pages just goes to show you how fucked this world really is. Heres to when it all ends :glugglug:
This Thread and the fact that it has reached 62 pages just goes to show you how fucked this world really is. Heres to when it all ends :glugglug:
Consenting adults having sex the way they want to shows you how fucked up this world really is?
I am a "true transsexual" in the classic sense. I eventually will complete sex-reassignment.
You make a clear distinction between transsexuals and hermaphrodites (the preferred name for them is intersexuals), because transsexuals choose medical intervention. Actually, more often than commonly thought, the two are interlinked. For example, I was born XXY karyotype, which qualifies under an intersex condition...but I am transsexual because I need medical intervention, like other transsexuals, to correct my biological sex to be more in congruence with my gender. For me is no more of a choice than having diabetes, for example, and taking medicine. While taking the medicine is a choice, it is much needed.
I am a "true transsexual" in the classic sense. I eventually will complete sex-reassignment. A homosexual man is someone who is only, or at least predominantly, only attracted to members of their own sex. If a woman is penetrating a man, it doesn't change the fact that she's a woman.
The thing is that being gay is a lot more than just who you have sex with. I know gay men that have had sex with women, and even had kids, but that doesn't make them any less gay. And I wouldn't say they are bisexual, because there attraction is predominantly to men. However, there is a double standand, a gay man that has sex with a woman can remain gay. But if a straight man has sex with another man, if only once in a lifetime, he is labeled gay for the rest of his life. I don't believe this is the case, as many men have engaged in homosexual acts, in prison for instance or experimenting when young, but their main attraction remains towards women, qualifying them as straight and not really bisexual.
I assume you meant "sex," not gender, because the two are different things. Sex is about what biological sexual traits you pocess, and gender is more of a psychological and social identification issue. Yes, while it is true that many men think like that, there are also many that do see it as a birth condition that shouldn't stop them from seeing them as women.
That's an opinion, not a fact. Most men do see a difference between fucking a shemale, and gettting fucked in the ass by Arnold Schwarzenegger for instance. So I disagree with your assertion that is the same thing, because it is not. The same men that get turned on by shemales, don't get turned on by another dude's hairy ass, masculine body, scent, etc.
Sorry, but I don't think is natural for people to bash others in order to establish a social identity. That comes from a desire to fit in, especially when society affords advantages to fitting into that particular group. Our society creates this, and not nature.
If a man sees a shemale, and is attracted to the feminine characteristics, and later finds out that she has a dick, that doesn't change the fact that the feminine characteristics are still there. Some men that are very into pussy might get turned off, but others who like anal sex or just want a blowjob, might overlook it. If a man is attracted mainly because of the dick, however, then it is more of a bisexual attraction. Gay men on the other hand, are not generally turned on by transsexuals, they want men that look the same sex, and not something that reminds them of the opposite sex.
Unfortunately, if people didn't think something was wrong with being gay, they wouldn't attack others who do not identify as such with words such as "faggots." My problem with this comes because this mentality affects many people in real life. Many men, for instance, mistreat transgender/transsexual woman merely because they are afraid of being perceived as gay. Many relationships also have to be kept private, because of this same nonsense. I have experienced this first hand, for example, many men treat me differently when we are alone than when we are around other people who may know about me.
I find it so hypocritical how some here think is OK for those against shemales and their fans to call others "faggots," but not for me to challenge that assertion, because in their minds they think insulting people with homophobic and transphobic expletives is just another form of them expressing "their honest opinion." Well, I have an honest opinion too! ...And at least I don't have to insult people to get an "honest opinion" across!