Who has Been the Better Basketball Player, Kobe Bryant or Shaquille O'Neal?

[PlasmaTwa2]

Throughout their careers, it's obvious that Kobe has been the better player. But if we judge them when they are both in their primes, Shaq was better.

 

[Hot Mega]

Throughout their careers, it's obvious that Kobe has been the better player. But if we judge them when they are both in their primes, Shaq was better.

Wow...Shaq in his prime was a better player than Kobe is now (theoretically in his prime)??

You could barely have Shaq on the floor in the last seconds whereas Kobe is winning games in the last seconds.

I don't consider Shaq great because his physique allowed him to take out long term leases in the paint and score from point blank.

When you look at it...that is about all Shaq brought to the game. He was a very poor defensive player compared to other centers..while Kobe is making all defensive teams.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

Shaq was averaging almost 30 a game by his second season in shit Orlando. Kobe didn't even get close to that until his fifth year:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaquille_O'Neal#NBA_career_statistics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_Bryant#NBA_career_statistics

Kobe=owned. impdaddy

 

[D-rock]

You know what else I disliked about Shaq? As much attention as he drew in his prime he sucked at creating plays for other people. When he did it was almost despite himself or because so much attention was paid to him that it was impossible not to. I would lose track of the number of times in a game he would set up by they paint and receive a pass from somebody. He would then get double teamed, dribble a few times, bump his ass into the person behind him a few times, look around apathetically, and then lackadaisically pass it out to the person directly in front of him on the perimeter. That seemed to be his entire strategy for most of his career. He might have turned around and when for the basket when he could practically reach it and set the ball in. I mean I don't expect everybody to do crazy Magic Johnson type stuff or anything but for as much attention as was being drawn to him he should have been constantly making Swiss cheese out of his opponents defense, and he just could never take much opportunity of it.

Yeah, I mean Shaq. The guy whose coming there in the first place got you a title you never would have gotten otherwise.

The one I'm not talking about is Kobe. The guy who, out of jealousy, got Shaq traded away from the Lakers so he could finally be the center of attention in L.A. I'm sorry, but I don't care how much Kobe claims to care. When you tear apart a team that won three titles, and get rid of the #1 guy just for the sake of your own ego, the whole "fiercest competitor" claim doesn't ring true. If he is such a fierce competitor, he should have been fighting to conquer his ego, and continued riding Shaq's coat tails to more rings. Who cares if he was number two as long as the TEAM was winning? Kobe claims to be all about winning, but it's only as long as HE is the one getting all the acolades for it.

Kobe's backstabbing move to get Shaq traded is equal in my mind to the punk behavior of Stephon Marbury when he demanded a trade from the Timberwolves because he admittedly couldn't handle being the #2 star and being the second highest paid player on the team. He got to go to a team where he was the big man on campus, but how many rings has he won? Had he stayed in Minnesota with KG, they would have probably won a few championships. Like Kobe, it's all about me, me, me, me....

Back on the subject of Kobe, the guy even looks like a rat. Pointy nose, beaty eyes, long head, and an overall sneaky expression. Sometimes you CAN judge a book by it's cover.

I don't like either player on a personal level, but why is Kobe getting all the flak on the whole Shaq/Kobe fallout in Los Angeles. It seemed to be a two way street, and if somehow Shaq didn't deserve half the blame for that he does for a huge chunk of it.

 

[roronoa3000]

Shaq was averaging almost 30 a game by his second season in shit Orlando. Kobe didn't even get close to that until his fifth year:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaquille_O'Neal#NBA_career_statistics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_Bryant#NBA_career_statistics

Kobe=owned. impdaddy

Kobe came from high school, Shaq went to college.
Naturally he would be more ready for the NBA.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

Kobe came from high school, Shaq went to college.
Naturally he would be more ready for the NBA.

Shaq came to a shit organization (why do you think they had the first overall pick) and made that organization relevant. He also average upp 20s PPG from day one in the league 10 years in. :2 cents:

 

[YumiYumi_1988]

Yeah, I mean Shaq. The guy whose coming there in the first place got you a title you never would have gotten otherwise.

What title?

He wouldn't have that many titles had he started out at shitty Orlando.

If Orlando was shitty back then, then the Bulls were just plain average, and the Rockets were chumps.