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Who has Been the Better Basketball Player, Kobe Bryant or Shaquille O'Neal?
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Kobe is, but isn't he supposed to be???
Really, if you look at it, we're talking about someone who has the genes of an NBA player, a guy who's father bought him admission to schools in Italy, a life spent around basketball which includes training and playing with pro ball player at the age of 12, and a father driven to mold him into an elite baller. Why is anybody suprised that Kobe is the best player in the league today.
BTW: Has anyone else noticed the eerie similarities b/t the lives and personalities of Tiger and Kobe???
Really, if you look at it, we're talking about someone who has the genes of an NBA player, a guy who's father bought him admission to schools in Italy, a life spent around basketball which includes training and playing with pro ball player at the age of 12, and a father driven to mold him into an elite baller. Why is anybody suprised that Kobe is the best player in the league today.
BTW: Has anyone else noticed the eerie similarities b/t the lives and personalities of Tiger and Kobe???
As much as I hate the Lakers, I have to give my vote to Mamba. What can I say, the man is fucking good.
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Can't really compare two players so different in size, position and attributes but....
Kobe aka The Black Mamba is the best since MJ.
Kobe aka The Black Mamba is the best since MJ.
Everybody knows it was Muggsy motherfucking Bogues!
Shaq was a walking three second violation, couldn't make free throws, and had very little offensive or defensive basketball awareness. If he ended up being three inches shorter and fifty pounds lighter than he was he would have been nothing.
He ended up as good as he was because the rules highly favored somebody like him with a lot of it being regardless of skill, which he didn't really have much of. That's the difference between him and other big men of the past like Wilt and Kareem who did have basketball skill.
He ended up as good as he was because the rules highly favored somebody like him with a lot of it being regardless of skill, which he didn't really have much of. That's the difference between him and other big men of the past like Wilt and Kareem who did have basketball skill.
GibbsGrad2002
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Kobe Bryant
What the fuck kind of question is this? Even in 2008 this wasn't a legit question. Kobe was a better basketball player than Snaq in high school.
Kobe is on pace to break the most points in an NBA career record. He'll most certainly be top 3 when he retires.
He also has...
5 NBA championships.
2 NBA Finals MVP
1 Regular Season MVP (Should be at least 2. How can you average 35 points and not get MVP??)
12 time All Star
10 time defensive all NBA. (ya he's one of the best perimeter and 1-1 defenders of all time)
12 time all NBA.
2 time Scoring Champion. (ya he's one of the greatest offensive threats of all time)
I know this thread is 2 years old, but to compare one of the top 5 greatest players in the history of the game to Snaq?? is fucking laughable.
Snaq did NOT lead 3 teams to the NBA finals. He led 2, and piggy backed Wade and the refs to a 3rd. He was the main guy in L.A, but he wouldn't have won without Kobe. He wouldn't have even made it to 3 straight Finals without Kobe.
Even if you go position wise, Kobe is only eclipsed by MJ. Snaq isn't even the greatest center of all time. Not even top 3.
And for the record, Kobe did not run Snaq out of town. Snaq became a fat fuck and Buss wasn't going to give some out of shape piece of shit, a max, long term contract extension. It worked out didn't it? L.A is racking up championships while that fat fuck wanders from team to team trying to stay relevant. Fuck Snaq.
Go Lakers!
Kobe is on pace to break the most points in an NBA career record. He'll most certainly be top 3 when he retires.
He also has...
5 NBA championships.
2 NBA Finals MVP
1 Regular Season MVP (Should be at least 2. How can you average 35 points and not get MVP??)
12 time All Star
10 time defensive all NBA. (ya he's one of the best perimeter and 1-1 defenders of all time)
12 time all NBA.
2 time Scoring Champion. (ya he's one of the greatest offensive threats of all time)
I know this thread is 2 years old, but to compare one of the top 5 greatest players in the history of the game to Snaq?? is fucking laughable.
Snaq did NOT lead 3 teams to the NBA finals. He led 2, and piggy backed Wade and the refs to a 3rd. He was the main guy in L.A, but he wouldn't have won without Kobe. He wouldn't have even made it to 3 straight Finals without Kobe.
Even if you go position wise, Kobe is only eclipsed by MJ. Snaq isn't even the greatest center of all time. Not even top 3.
And for the record, Kobe did not run Snaq out of town. Snaq became a fat fuck and Buss wasn't going to give some out of shape piece of shit, a max, long term contract extension. It worked out didn't it? L.A is racking up championships while that fat fuck wanders from team to team trying to stay relevant. Fuck Snaq.
Go Lakers!
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It's not like you to offer such a wishy washy opinion :dunno:
Could you be a little more definitive about who you prefer, and why?
[size=-5]also you might want to check the letter "h" key on your keyboard. It seems to be malfunctioning intermittently . No need to thank me for the heads up, I'm glad to be of help
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BEAST!
I've never seen so many referees turn a blind eye to offensive fouls then the collective NBA team of refs did for Shaq while he played for the Lakers.
^^Thread and case closer. BTW for all of those still whining about Kobe running Shaq outta town....Shaq ran Shaq out of town...he just didn't know he was doing it.
He couldn't see he was playing along side one of the future greats to ever play the game...he often times looked a Kobe as no better than Penny Hardaway or Ray Allen... How'd that turn out Shaq? :o
I'll take Shaq every single time. Shaq cared about winning. Kobe only cares about Kobe.
Kobe desperately wants to be Michael Jordan, but when he was playing with Shaq, it was Shaq who was the MJ of that team, and Kobe was Scottie Pippen.
I'd also take Magic Johnson over Kobe - by a mile.
Kobe desperately wants to be Michael Jordan, but when he was playing with Shaq, it was Shaq who was the MJ of that team, and Kobe was Scottie Pippen.
I'd also take Magic Johnson over Kobe - by a mile.
Can somebody tell me how much my Kobe Upper Deck rookie card is worth? It is near mint condition.
$20. Just give it to me.
Fuck that bullshit! I have a few others. I am so glad I was into collecting basketball cards at the time I did due to the fact I have many rookie cards. Though my most prized basketball card is that of God Shammgod.
This is a common misconception. Snaq does not care about winning. If he did, he'd stay in shape. He cares about entertaining. That's why he does more dancing and rapping than actual balling anymore.
Kobe cares about greatness. He's the fiercest competitor since MJ. How can you say he doesn't care about winning? He demanded to play in L.A before he ever stepped foot on a basketball court. Why? Because he wanted to win. He trains every off season, stepping up his game to new levels while everybody else is satisfied with their game. Why? Because he wants to win. He forced front office to make moves or he was leaving town. Why? Because he wants to win.
People just hate Kobe for whatever reason. It's all good though. Ya'll can take Snaq "every single time". You'll get bounced in the 2nd round (if you're lucky enough to make the playoffs). Kobe's winning titles now and cementing his legacy as an all time great while Snaq is trying to MC in some shitty club.
Are you guys saying Shaq cares only for the game and winning?
And is a basketball purist who only wants to play the game and win?
And would never belittle himself to the point of making a crappy comical film?
Or crossover into a multimedia sport entertainment forum?
I mean, you know, just statin'.
At least Kobe only showed up outside of basketball during TV during court cases....
And is a basketball purist who only wants to play the game and win?
And would never belittle himself to the point of making a crappy comical film?
Or crossover into a multimedia sport entertainment forum?
I mean, you know, just statin'.
At least Kobe only showed up outside of basketball during TV during court cases....
...of which he was innocent.
