Who are you voting/rooting for in this years election

[georges]

Well, easier to put the blame on others... i guess we should put the blame about the situation in Korea on Clinton too, and the price of oil, and the situation on healthcare, the economy too... :yesyes: Lets all put the blame on Clinton, everything wrong in the US heck in the whole world is Clinton fault, Bush can wash is hands clean !

Btw just to be clear Georges, i was being sarcastic !

Never said that Bush can wash his hands clean:nono: the fact remains that it is clinton who fucked up the us army in somalia. About healthcare system i don't know if all the people during clinton's mandate were so happy.
About korea it will be probably solved in some time. Maybe with diplomatics maybe not. Oil wasn't that cheap after the 1st gulf war and its price continued to rise every year in Europe so i can't say that the price of oil was that small.Economy in the year 1996 the asian financial crisis began and every country who had relationships with Asia was touched by this crisis you even have the consequences of this crisis till today.

 

[Brino]

Bush can't do all at the same time. He is not a wizzard.
To this my question will be" have you seen how clinton had fucked up the us army in somalia?"

The biggest hypocritical statement ever made! You talk about Clinton screwing up the military in Somalia but what about Bush in Iraq!? How many troops died in Somalia compared to Iraq!? You cant say that Bush is doing a great job in Iraq and that Clinton was doing bad in Somalia when their both the exact same thing! At least Clinton had an exit strategy!

 

[Brino]

You are an hypocrite because you think that you can insult anyone behind their back and nver be punished.
Do you honestely think that you can talk to with a crap language and even insult to a judge or any other person.
You want an anarchy which means you want a system where you can insult everyone, trespass the law and not being punished.It is like the system when you steal "not seen, not taken". That is not freedom of speech.Insulting everyone and calling them with names is not freedom of speech it is not respecting the others it is walking on their toes.
Problem is education a scumbag will always remain a scumbag period. If someone is bad educated he will remain as he is for all his life.
None likes scumbag or bullies they are a danger for the society, you maybe like them but many people don't.
You think that you are all allowed, certainly not.:nono:You have laws and if you don't respect them you have to be punished.
You hate disciplin and order, i can see that through your posts.

I dont want anarchy georges! Your the one that doent realize what freedom of speech is! You spout a load of bullshit and your hypocritical in every post you make! You talk about a law were your punished for talking behind someones back and you keep saying that I want to be able to get away with it, but as I recall your the one that talks behind peoples back and doesnt want to face the consequences for it.

Remember Lordraven!? You talked about him behind his back and didnt expect to face the consequences for it! Then you didnt like it when you did face consequences for it and Lordraven posted your whole conversation here! How hypocritical can you be!? You dont what people to talk behind your back but it's perfectly ok for you to talk behind theirs! I have no problem with you talking behind lordravens back because that is your right, that is freedom of speech!

Speaking your mind is not against the law! Otherwise I wouldnt be talking to you right now!

 

[georges]

The biggest hypocritical statement ever made! You talk about Clinton screwing up the military in Somalia but what about Bush in Iraq!? How many troops died in Somalia compared to Iraq!? You cant say that Bush is doing a great job in Iraq and that Clinton was doing bad in Somalia when their both the exact same thing! At least Clinton had an exit strategy!

The most non objective remark ever.
You think that a president can do all in four years then you are really irrealistic.
Whatever the number of dead is, fact is that clinton prefered an exit strategy than fighting terrorists and dictators in somalia.
People fights against extremists and terrorists.You can't understand that.Having an exit strategy is acting like a coward the same thing can be said about spain's minister a socialist who decided to move the spanish troops from Irak.
Exit strategy is a typical sign of weakness and acceptance of terrorism and dictatorship.

 

[georges]

I dont want anarchy georges! Your the one that doent realize what freedom of speech is! You spout a load of bullshit and your hypocritical in every post you make! You talk about a law were your punished for talking behind someones back and you keep saying that I want to be able to get away with it, but as I recall your the one that talks behind peoples back and doesnt want to face the consequences for it.

Remember Lordraven!? You talked about him behind his back and didnt expect to face the consequences for it! Then you didnt like it when you did face consequences for it and Lordraven posted your whole conversation here! How hypocritical can you be!? You dont what people to talk behind your back but it's perfectly ok for you to talk behind theirs! I have no problem with you talking behind lordravens back because that is your right, that is freedom of speech!

Speaking your mind is not against the law! Otherwise I wouldnt be talking to you right now!

So much (filthy) lies coming from your mouth.
You are hypocritical for two reasons:
-you think taht you are all alowed and that you will not be punished.you are not above the law, understand?
-you try to put words and say what i have not said.
Laws are laws and they have to be obeyed fully with no exception and no discussion.
So who is an hypocrite?You because you try to say what i am not saying which is dishonest and low.
I faced and face the consequences of what i am saying but you don't. Spying someone like a fucking coward in a private conversation isn't that weak, cowardly and hypocritical? Taking your nose in someone's conversation is forbidden, do you fucking understand that?
I said to lord raven what i have to say
Look at this thread and stop lying
http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18883&perpage=25&pagenumber=2
Don't mix private conversation and public talk.
I assume the consequences for my words.
The law i was talking in France is valuable for people insulting a Person and believe me it is applied.
I always speak frankly.What i am speaking on messenger or everywhere else is my business not your and not everyone else business, am i enough clear?It is my business and my privacy, respect of privacy, ever heard of that?
Stop whining and stop spreading your teenagerish bullshit.

 

[Brino]

The most non objective remark ever.
You think that a president can do all in four years then you are really irrealistic.
Whatever the number of dead is, fact is that clinton prefered an exit strategy than fighting terrorists and dictators in somalia.
People fights against extremists and terrorists.You can't understand that.Having an exit strategy is acting like a coward the same thing can be said about spain's minister a socialist who decided to move the spanish troops from Irak.
Exit strategy is a typical sign of weakness and acceptance of terrorism and dictatorship.

Having an exit strategy isnt weak, it's smart! Saying it's weak is a very stupid remark to make!

 

[Brino]

So much (filthy) lies coming from your mouth.
You are hypocritical for two reasons:
-you think taht you are all alowed and that you will not be punished.you are not above the law, understand?
-you try to put words and say what i have not said.
Laws are laws and they have to be obeyed fully with no exception and no discussion.
So who is an hypocrite?You because you try to say what i am not saying which is dishonest and low.
I faced and face the consequences of what i am saying but you don't. Spying someone like a fucking coward in a private conversation isn't that weak, cowardly and hypocritical? Taking your nose in someone's conversation is forbidden, do you fucking understand that?
I said to lord raven what i have to say
Look at this thread and stop lying
http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18883&perpage=25&pagenumber=2
Don't mix private conversation and public talk.
I assume the consequences for my words.
The law i was talking in France is valuable for people insulting a Person and believe me it is applied.
I always speak frankly.What i am speaking on messenger or everywhere else is my business not your and not everyone else business, am i enough clear?It is my business and my privacy, respect of privacy, ever heard of that?
Stop whining and stop spreading your teenagerish bullshit.

Maybe you should listen more carefully georges! You say it's against the law to speak your mind in France and yet you just said that you always speak your mind!? What is that!? Tell me, if it's against the law in France to speak your mind, and since you apparently always speak You Mind, then have you received a lot of penalties for speaking your mind!?

It's typical of you to call me childish when your not that much older than me georges!

If you actually read what was on that thread you posted georges youd see that everything you posted in this thread was a lie! But your mind is so twisted and backward that you cant see it! First of all lordraven didnt spy on anything, FoxyCougar gave him the whole conversation! Second, you said that people should get punished for talking behind other people's backs and yet you so obviously talked shit behind lordravens back and expected to get away with it! So please keep your hypocritical nonsense to yourself!

 

[georges]

Having an exit strategy isnt weak, it's smart! Saying it's weak is a very stupid remark to make!

No just look at spain, who was elected a socialist and like a coward their minister retired the troops from Irak. Conclusion exit strategy is not a way of fighting terrorism and dictatorships, it is the way used by cowards.

 

[georges]

Maybe you should listen more carefully georges! You say it's against the law to speak your mind in France and yet you just said that you always speak your mind!? What is that!? Tell me, if it's against the law in France to speak your mind, and since you apparently always speak You Mind, then have you received a lot of penalties for speaking your mind!?

It's typical of you to call me childish when your not that much older than me georges!

If you actually read what was on that thread you posted georges youd see that everything you posted in this thread was a lie! But your mind is so twisted and backward that you cant see it! First of all lordraven didnt spy on anything, FoxyCougar gave him the whole conversation! Second, you said that people should get punished for talking behind other people's backs and yet you so obviously talked shit behind lordravens back and expected to get away with it! So please keep your hypocritical nonsense to yourself!

In france you are punished if you insult someone behind his back pubicly or in front of him publicly.I speak my mind but i never insulted anyone in France, never. Insulting someone is weak. I never received penalties.
Al lie????No you are lie.You think that you can insult someone and you won't be punished? You are not over the laws.
One day when i was in Dallas with my cousin parking his car, an irrespectful person parked near us and scratched my cousin's car a little bit .He insulted my cousin and said that all what happened was my cousin's fault. My cousin gave him a lesson.
You are twisted because you always say what i didn't say.Backward? Hellfuck no. You are because always you try to put words into my mouth.
You always try to pass your democrat friends for heroes, all these games, these links and these comic pics were and are lies. You always need someone to accuse, don't you? I have never seen so much shit talked on a president during since his election. Oh yes clinton was your hero except that he did nothing to catch osama and friends during the first wtc bombing and he fucked up the us army in somalia.
My conversation with nighfly was private, do you fucking understand what PRIVATE means?In short, it says don't stick your nose where it doesn't belong or mind your own business.
Whoever spied me can blame himself of how he/she acted low.My private conversations are private and not meant to be public. Do you know that LR was warned by mods because of his behaviour and that some of his threads were closed?

 

[Brino]

No just look at spain, who was elected a socialist and like a coward their minister retired the troops from Irak. Conclusion exit strategy is not a way of fighting terrorism and dictatorships, it is the way used by cowards.

What happened in Spain wasnt an Exit Strategy! Do you even know what an exit strategy is!?

 

[Brino]

In france you are punished if you insult someone behind his back pubicly or in front of him publicly.I speak my mind but i never insulted anyone in France, never. Insulting someone is weak. I never received penalties.
Al lie????No you are lie.You think that you can insult someone and you won't be punished? You are not over the laws.
One day when i was in Dallas with my cousin parking his car, an irrespectful person parked near us and scratched my cousin's car a little bit .He insulted my cousin and said that all what happened was my cousin's fault. My cousin gave him a lesson.
You are twisted because you always say what i didn't say.Backward? Hellfuck no. You are because always you try to put words into my mouth.
You always try to pass your democrat friends for heroes, all these games, these links and these comic pics were and are lies. You always need someone to accuse, don't you? I have never seen so much shit talked on a president during since his election. Oh yes clinton was your hero except that he did nothing to catch osama and friends during the first wtc bombing and he fucked up the us army in somalia.
My conversation with nighfly was private, do you fucking understand what PRIVATE means?In short, it says don't stick your nose where it doesn't belong or mind your own business.
Whoever spied me can blame himself of how he/she acted low.My private conversations are private and not meant to be public. Do you know that LR was warned by mods because of his behaviour and that some of his threads were closed?

What dont you get about the fact that it's not against the law to insult somebody here! It's simple, It's not against the law to insult someone here in the U.S., period!

Your such a hypocrite! You insulted Lordraven behind his back! Do you deny that!? Arent you the one that said that people should be beaten for insulting other people behind their back!? Do you deny that? It's simple, you dont want people to insult you behind your back then dont insult other people behind their back, period!

 

[Starman]

I have been reading in George's posts that he has a lot of critizism against the welfare state, only based on prejudice, and no facts to back up his claims, so here I have some facts to prove how wrong Georges are.
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Welfare states

There are three main interpretations of the idea of a "welfare state".

In the first, a welfare state is an ideal model in which the government assumes the primary responsibility for the individual and social welfare of its citizens.

Secondly, the term is used for the provision of welfare services by the state.

Third, welfare states may be identified with general systems of social protection.

In many "welfare states" welfare is not provided by the state at all, but by a combination of independent, voluntary and government services.

Critics of the welfare state in the US claim it makes citizens lazy and less inclined to work. This is unsupported by the economic evidence; there is no association between economic performance and welfare expenditure in developed countries. (See A B Atkinson, Incomes and the Welfare State, Cambridge University Press 1995.)

The Welfare State idea is also criticized as not much bang for the buck, however others point to counterexamples that may suggest otherwise. R Goodin et al, The Real Worlds of Welfare Capitalism (Cambridge University Press, 2000) show that on major economic and social indicators, the USA performs worse than the Netherlands, which has a high commitment to welfare provision.

The Welfare State is accused of resulting in high taxes in places like Denmark (Tax level of 50.4% of the GNP in 2002) and Sweden (Tax level of 50.3% of the GNP in 2002). Some do, but these countries also have high wage economies and high GNPs; high taxes do not imply poor economic performance.

Critics of the welfare state also argue that these government services are in fact inefficient and thus expensive, by contrast with nations with less welfare like the USA. In fact, the US system is substantially more expensive, especially in health care, because of its organisational diversity and heavy administrative costs. National systems like the UK National Health Service are proportionately cheaper, and have better coverage, than market-based systems.

The OECD (Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development) produces international statistics on health care - http://www.oecd.org
(The text on the web site is available on both English and French. Check the upper right corner.)

Examples of welfare states:

• United Kingdom: the Welfare State
• Germany: the Social Market
• France: Solidarity and insertion
• Sweden: the Institutional-Redistributive model
• Finland: social democratic welfare
• Australia
• Norway

 

[Starman]

Originally posted by georges
No just look at spain, who was elected a socialist and like a coward their minister retired the troops from Irak.

They followed the people's will. The people voted for them, because that was one of their election promises, and because Spain is a democracy, they tried to keep their promises. But I guess abiding to the people's will isn't a concept recognized among authoritarian ideologies.

 

[member5726]

Examples of welfare states:

• United Kingdom: the Welfare State
• Germany: the Social Market
• France: Solidarity and insertion
• Sweden: the Institutional-Redistributive model
• Finland: social democratic welfare
• Australia
• Norway

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You can add Canada to the list... my mom is receiving wellfare because she no longer is able to work due to a disease. Others can receive wellfares, but for a limited period i was on it couple times in my life, and it did'nt make my a lazy person.

 

[georges]

What dont you get about the fact that it's not against the law to insult somebody here! It's simple, It's not against the law to insult someone here in the U.S., period!

Your such a hypocrite! You insulted Lordraven behind his back! Do you deny that!? Arent you the one that said that people should be beaten for insulting other people behind their back!? Do you deny that? It's simple, you dont want people to insult you behind your back then dont insult other people behind their back, period!

You are ok for spying other conversations and saying that talking what people wnat in private conversation is forbidden?you are such an hypocrite.
Some one spied me understand, imagine that i spy your conversation how would you react? What was spoken with someone else on msn is not your business, understood?LOrd Raven was banned from a board, i was exchanging an opinion with another person.A person spied me in my conversation and you approuve these methods, you are very low Brino.Hypocrite yes because you stick your fucking nose where it doesn't belong and you spy people by saying they can't say what they want in their private conversation.Private conversation is private. The lord raven case is not your fucking business, that case is closed and belongs to the past.In case if you don't understand mind your own business ok?

 

[Ranger]

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