As all sexual orientations do. Sexual attraction is too primal to be a choice. Who we are attracted to isn't a matter of decision. If that were the case, then it would be easier for ugly people to get laid. Because other people could just "choose" to be attracted to them.
When did you decide to be heterosexual?
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As all sexual orientations do. Sexual attraction is too primal to be a choice. Who we are attracted to isn't a matter of decision. If that were the case, then it would be easier for ugly people to get laid. Because other people could just "choose" to be attracted to them.
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I think you're forgetting that society is what dictates what is attractive and what is ugly (for the most part). Obviously, it's left up to the individual to choose if they are going to follow along or be themselves, but society plays a huge factor in that.
There were time periods where fat women were considered more desirable than skinny women. There were time periods were fat men were considered more desirable than skinny men. Everything about our "look" changes throughout the ages and that's because society tells us what to look like, to a certain degree.
If the most attractive man in the world walked around in 17th century attire, 99% of women would think he looked ridiculous and wouldn't want anything to do with him. Now, if that same exact man walked around in some nice dress pants and a button up shirt from the Gap, women would be all over him. Where is the biology/nature involved with that decision?
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True, but the idea of fat women being desirable was not just about their physical attractiveness. There was a belief that fat women were more fertile than their skinny counterparts. It was also a status symbol thing, demonstrating the wealth of the husband that he could afford to keep a fat woman fed. What is attractive does change over time but is heavily influenced by status, like when having a tan was a no-no because it meant you were a manual labourer who toiled in the fields all day rather than one of the upper classes with pale white skin.
Clearly the gay person was insecure with being gay and forced him/herself to live a "normal" life that their family and friends would want. Who would chose to be criticised and hated for who they have sex with. If you're born straight why the Fuck would you decide to be gay? You wouldn't unless you were already gay.
i'm pretty sure i never chose per se like i might choose to get some water cuz i'm thirsty. when i started to get sexual feelings and urges they just never were directed towards chicks rather than guys. 
I think it would be wonderful if we could choose who we were attracted to. No one would ever have a broken heart again.
Too bad we have some serious shit in our heads. I think that we have so much mental programming in place that we are incapable of even telling the difference between what is "natural" and what is constructed by society, so much of it is invisible to us.
As always I ask, what difference does it make? the only thing that matters is that we recognize that the choices we do make (or think that we do) are ones that will be beneficial to ourselves and to others.
The fact that the perfectly "rational", "sane" and "normal" imperative to murder millions of our fellow men seems to be a condition that is accepted above the one to make love to them is absurd to me.
Too bad we have some serious shit in our heads. I think that we have so much mental programming in place that we are incapable of even telling the difference between what is "natural" and what is constructed by society, so much of it is invisible to us.
As always I ask, what difference does it make? the only thing that matters is that we recognize that the choices we do make (or think that we do) are ones that will be beneficial to ourselves and to others.
The fact that the perfectly "rational", "sane" and "normal" imperative to murder millions of our fellow men seems to be a condition that is accepted above the one to make love to them is absurd to me.
when peter griffin hit on luke perry
lol... okay What would you consider me gay or str8? Im a shemale..
So you can choose? That means that people aren't "born" homosexual. In other words, religious people are correct?
And a quick question: why do people use the word "gay." It's not even remotely appropriate. The appropriate term(s) are homosexual or queer. Gay means "happy."
And a quick question: why do people use the word "gay." It's not even remotely appropriate. The appropriate term(s) are homosexual or queer. Gay means "happy."
I do not believe you can choose, I think you are born how you are. I was born straight, there was no decision, I could not bring myself to like anyone that wasnt female. The only people who believe that it is a choice are religious morons.
I just found out that a male friend of mine, to put it bluntly, has sex with men. This was a little surprising to me because I had only know him to have had sexual relationships with women.
We didn't talk about the label "bisexual" but one thing he did say was "queer"- which means out of the ordinary- and he defined it as anyone who engages in a sexual act that is not exclusively penis-vaginal intercourse aka. "normal" heterosexual behavior aka. dominant phallucentric penetration. I thought that was pretty cool and I like that because it encompasses people that would identify as straight, gay, bi and other.
I always thought that having these rigid strict definition of sexual categorization to be pretty stupid. Why is that? I mean that's how it is for so much of life, things need to be placed in easily identifiable Aristotelian dualisms- black or white, good or bad, yes or no, gay or straight... why devoid life of it's variable complexities? that is what enriches it. But I guess people would rather sacrifice a meaningful expereince for an easy and convenient solution, even if it doesn't satisfy.
We didn't talk about the label "bisexual" but one thing he did say was "queer"- which means out of the ordinary- and he defined it as anyone who engages in a sexual act that is not exclusively penis-vaginal intercourse aka. "normal" heterosexual behavior aka. dominant phallucentric penetration. I thought that was pretty cool and I like that because it encompasses people that would identify as straight, gay, bi and other.
I always thought that having these rigid strict definition of sexual categorization to be pretty stupid. Why is that? I mean that's how it is for so much of life, things need to be placed in easily identifiable Aristotelian dualisms- black or white, good or bad, yes or no, gay or straight... why devoid life of it's variable complexities? that is what enriches it. But I guess people would rather sacrifice a meaningful expereince for an easy and convenient solution, even if it doesn't satisfy.
You don't choose to be straight or gay.
It's not something you choose, it's something you deal with.
You realise you are gay or straight and you can dio nothing to change what you are. Otherwise many gays would choose to be straight 'cause a straight life is easier.
SO I happen to be born hermaphrodite right??? This is a hypothetical obviously cause I am Shemale. but I am born this way.. both I have to choose? Ofcourse I do. What If I choose the wrong one? Theres one for you religious people.
the pressures of societies norms would be my guess. or religous views. and those 20+ years probably werent very "happy"
This is an argument I try to make often, but people seem to think I am gay bashing when I do. I thank you for stating it and making me feel I am not a homophobe.
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