I own a few of several types of firearm. I'd like to say one of my pistols is my HD gun but nope. I always trust my Winchester 1300 Defender. It holds 8 rounds of whatever you choose, dead reliable and cheap. Mine has top-folding pistol-grip stock and tactical light ( for night time zombie attack ).
What Pistol Is Best For Home Protection?
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bakerboy68
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I would go for this one:
It will not do much damage BUT it will scare the hell out of any intruder
It will not do much damage BUT it will scare the hell out of any intruder
^ I prefer something a little more compact http://justinetobin.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/kids-water-pistol-20091.jpg and if they start getting heavy, I get them in the eye!
Facetious
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Choose Carefully because firearms purchases are notorious for buyers remorse.
As you must know by now, you can't really return a firearm like a household appliance.
Always beware of the "I Have To Have It, And I Have To Have It Now", bug. Don't ask me how I know. :o
For sheer home defense, one must keep in mind that you must choose the weapon that is going to neutralize the threat and do so the quickest (with the least of fuss) and with the least chance of causing collateral damages. ->(harming a neighbor).I'd go for a shorter barreled "*tactical" shotgun in either pump or semi auto. The Mossberg 930 tactical is a good quality unit. The "FN" or "FN Herstal" guns are nicer. If you do go the route of a shotgun, do make sure that you buy a sling that WORKS.
The handgun is always the backup weapon, at least in my parts.
You can't possibly lose with the CZ P01. This unit pretty much speaks for itself provided you do your research.
A couple of years ago, the CZ 75s were going for as low as $299.oo. The CZs are great firearms at any price, IMO.
The S&W M&P is my current favorite polymer framed semi auto pistol out there today. The neat thing about the M & P is that it has a modular backstrap (rear most point of the grip). You have an assortment of options which is nice.
That bulbous Glock backstrap never really quite worked out for me in the least bit.
As you must know by now, you can't really return a firearm like a household appliance.
Always beware of the "I Have To Have It, And I Have To Have It Now", bug. Don't ask me how I know. :o
For sheer home defense, one must keep in mind that you must choose the weapon that is going to neutralize the threat and do so the quickest (with the least of fuss) and with the least chance of causing collateral damages. ->(harming a neighbor).I'd go for a shorter barreled "*tactical" shotgun in either pump or semi auto. The Mossberg 930 tactical is a good quality unit. The "FN" or "FN Herstal" guns are nicer. If you do go the route of a shotgun, do make sure that you buy a sling that WORKS.
The handgun is always the backup weapon, at least in my parts.
You can't possibly lose with the CZ P01. This unit pretty much speaks for itself provided you do your research.
A couple of years ago, the CZ 75s were going for as low as $299.oo. The CZs are great firearms at any price, IMO.
The S&W M&P is my current favorite polymer framed semi auto pistol out there today. The neat thing about the M & P is that it has a modular backstrap (rear most point of the grip). You have an assortment of options which is nice.
That bulbous Glock backstrap never really quite worked out for me in the least bit.
Facetious
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I think that the perp. has to have a potentally deadly weapon in his grasp before you can shoot him in your own home !
Could you imagine being held both criminally and civilly responsible for killing some cat burgular scum that somehow entered your house at 3 AM ?
"but it was dark :dunno: I thought that I saw a weapon in his hand , I just wasn't going to take chances ! "
*shrug* The vast majority of my opinion comes from my combat experience in Vietnam and the two "citizen arrests" I've made in my lifetime.
I suppose a 'household incident' could be different.
I knew I liked you for a reason
I agree with your assessment of the CZs (they make excellent rifles too!):bowdown: FINALLY! Someone else out there who shares similar opinions as myself about Glock! Never felt comfortable with them bastards (although I must say that they're pretty damn reliable for the price).
Oh and by the by: The M&P is one of my current "new toys" too
cheers,
Heh. Not the kind of post I'd expect from ya mateAlso...practice the basic police method for stopping a perp before he gets too busy:
Semi-auto
BANG!BANG!BANG!BANG!BANG!BANG!BANG!BANG!BANG!BANG!...FREEZE!
Wheel gun (revolver)
BANG!BANG!BANG!BANG!BANG!BANG!...FREEZE!
cheers,
PS: Mods, sorry for the quick 2x2 posts...
Jagger69
Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
I don't know about California. Here in Texas, if there is an intruder inside your home you can basically blow him away no matter what. Additionally, Texas law provides for other certain situations where the use of deadly force is justified and not punishable under law (i.e in the workplace or in your car). The Texas law, signed by Gov. Perry in 2007, says:
The reasonable use of lethal force will be allowed if an intruder is:
- Committing certain violent crimes, such as murder or sexual assault, or is attempting to commit such crimes
- Unlawfully trying to enter a protected place
- Unlawfully trying to remove a person from a protected place.
The law also provides civil immunity for a person who lawfully slays an intruder or attacker in such situations.
Not that I would ever hope to have to use it but I'd damn sure rather have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it.
And a big "THANK YOU" to all of you who have responded to my question. Obviously, some of you know a LOT about guns (more than I probably need to know). We're going to the gun range this weekend and will talk to the proprietor about different options.
I'm a bit conflicted since my wife needs to be able to use the gun and she is not the type who would be able to handle a shotgun with a big kick so I am leaning toward some sort of revolver perhaps IN ADDITION to a shotgun. However, I still need to learn a lot before making a decision so I'll keep y'all posted as this intriguing saga unfolds. Thanks again to all who responded!!!
:hatsoff::thumbsup:
Well my experience is from active duty and post military CQC/CQB training and ops...which is what a "household incident" would be.
I can tell you I've seen individuals with many times more training and experience than the average guy who just goes and buys a handgun then spends a few days a week trying to hit a bullseye at the range become fairly disoriented in a CQ situation. There are cops who spend countless more hours training with firearms but in the heat of a confrontation with and aggressive target they've nearly emptied entire clips within 10 or 15 ft. and hit nothing.
So if in the event a novice finds himself in a close quarter situation with an aggressive target it would likely be more luck than not if they hit the target....But in the event they do you make sure who ever it is stops or is in no condition to still overpower this person who likely has no particular hand to hand skills.
Mr. Daystar
In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
They don't make 1300's anymore. I would love to get my hands on a nice, barely used version police, with a standard stock.
Facetious
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"DON"T MESS WITH TEXAS" !!
Most indoor ranges will likely want to rent you a single firearm at the rate of 10 - $15 per session. Bad Deal ! These days, you'll be spending about $50.00 on a box each, one of .40 S & W and the other .45 Auto. That said, you might want to speak to a management level person at the range, inform them that you and your wife are currently looking at a home defense firearms that suits the both of you and you want to make the correct choice and would it be possible if you could possibly test fire several firearms at one combined rate e.g. -> Shoot off about 10 rounds a piece in one gun, take some notes - likes & dislikes - get another repeat . . repeat.
Otherwise, you might get the impression that the firearm you rent is the one that you're stuck with for the entire session. :nono:
I think that you'll tend to find a very accommodating experience, all in all.
Let us know ! :hatsoff:
A shotgun with small game loads(#4 ,6,etc..) or bird shot does not have much recoil. It's oly with heavier loads like Buckshot/slugs that you get recoil.
If your wife is short(short arms) you may want to get the shorter Barrel or Youth Shotgun.
Youv'e gotten some excellent advice on why a Shotgun is far superior to a hadgun for HOME protection. It's not close really.
A shotgun with small game loads(#4 ,6,etc..) or bird shot does not have much recoil if any really. It's only with heavier(deadlier) loads like Buckshot/slugs that you get recoil.
If your wife is short(short arms) you may want to get the shorter Barrel or Youth Shotgun.
Youv'e gotten some excellent advice on why a Shotgun is far superior to a handgun for HOME protection. It's not close really.
hi
the paraord p14 45 limited having 15 cartridges of 45acp capacity
http://www.paraord.com/new/product_pistol.php?id=11
the paraord p16 40 limited having 17 cartridges of 40s&w capacity
http://www.paraord.com/new/product_pistol.php?id=12
the paraord big hawg having 15 cartridges of 45acp capacity
http://www.paraord.com/new/product_pistol.php?id=55
are my favorite pistols from para ordnance, probably one of the very best makers of hi cap made 1911s, they have lifetime warranty and have the power extractor other makers do not have.
for revolvers stick to the s&w and the traditional model 29 in 44 magnum
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/...angId=-1&parent_category_rn=48302&isFirearm=Y
and for the very best 40 s&w made pistol then the lesbaer 1911 hi cap 40 with 19 cartridge capacity is my pick
http://www.lesbaer.com/HC40.html. les baer makes one of a kind of pistols and rifles, they are very reliable and well made pistols and are better than glocks, fn, berettas or taurus pistols.
the paraord p14 45 limited having 15 cartridges of 45acp capacity
http://www.paraord.com/new/product_pistol.php?id=11
the paraord p16 40 limited having 17 cartridges of 40s&w capacity
http://www.paraord.com/new/product_pistol.php?id=12
the paraord big hawg having 15 cartridges of 45acp capacity
http://www.paraord.com/new/product_pistol.php?id=55
are my favorite pistols from para ordnance, probably one of the very best makers of hi cap made 1911s, they have lifetime warranty and have the power extractor other makers do not have.
for revolvers stick to the s&w and the traditional model 29 in 44 magnum
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/...angId=-1&parent_category_rn=48302&isFirearm=Y
and for the very best 40 s&w made pistol then the lesbaer 1911 hi cap 40 with 19 cartridge capacity is my pick
http://www.lesbaer.com/HC40.html. les baer makes one of a kind of pistols and rifles, they are very reliable and well made pistols and are better than glocks, fn, berettas or taurus pistols.
for the best and most rugged pump shotgun, mossberg 590 or 590a1 is the gun to have. Here are various variants of the 590
http://www.mossberg.com/images/Mossberg_Guns/930/New/50771.jpg
http://www.mossberg.com/images/Mossberg_Guns/930/New/51660.jpg
http://www.mossberg.com/images/Mossberg_Guns/930/New/51663.jpg
http://www.mossberg.com/images/Mossberg_Guns/930/New/51668.jpg
http://www.mossberg.com/images/Mossberg_Guns/930/New/50299.jpg
http://www.mossberg.com/images/Mossberg_Guns/930/New/50771.jpg
http://www.mossberg.com/images/Mossberg_Guns/930/New/51660.jpg
http://www.mossberg.com/images/Mossberg_Guns/930/New/51663.jpg
http://www.mossberg.com/images/Mossberg_Guns/930/New/51668.jpg
http://www.mossberg.com/images/Mossberg_Guns/930/New/50299.jpg
The question is though, what happens to the rounds that miss? They are going to end up somewhere and would pass through many internal walls like cardboard.Or even out into the street.
If it makes you feel any better I don't like Glocks either. They're overpriced overrated junk IMO. I wouldn't take one if it was given to me for free.
