What exactly ARE they protesting?

[luvsemlarge]

SO a guy trying to gets his life back in order is why the US is fucked?? I'm sorry but I don't have the time to go and camp out at one of these occupy movements, I gotta work and pay bills so me, my daughter and the rest of my family won't be stuck on the streets! Now i'm not happy with how things are being run but trust me this shit has been working this way a hell of alot longer before Reagan was even a sparkle in his dads ball sack!
I am all for the 1% of people actually participating in these rallies for what its suppose to be for and not the 99% of 'anarchists' and total douche bags that just wanna cause havoc and be on network tv news!

Just don't start bashing people who are working their ass off trying to make things work in the fucked up system!

Good post!

 

[meesterperfect]

South Park just did an episode on it.
Because Matt and Trey are the only ones on Tv with the balls enough to say it.
Just like i said my earlier post.
1)These dumbasses are pawns of the democratic party.
Typical thing they do is divert attention/blame from themselves and put it on something else.
Business is the perfect patsy to make these losers to focus their attention on because most of them are either lazy screwheads who never did nothing with their lives or spoiled rich kids raised with a silver spoon who hate their parents.
So Obama and his folks get them to focus their anger on "THE RICH" instead of where it really belongs which is on the GOV and the politicians who in reality are the ones to blame.
2) Why aren't they in Washington protesting? South Park said it just like i did.
Because Obama is Black and you can't put any blame on a Black Prez......He is beyond reproach 2011 style.
Not only that but most of these clowns voted for him so to blame him would be admitting THAT THEY FUCKED UP.

 

[meesterperfect]

Great shot! I mean the photo.
Really captured the moment(of sudden unconsciousness)
Looks like Vic Mackey.

 

[accountantNOT]

South Park just did an episode on it.
Because Matt and Trey are the only ones on Tv with the balls enough to say it.

Like when they said that teabaggers who claim to hate Obama and liberals really are just angry that they have small penises. Must be true.

 

[vodkazvictim]

It's wrong to demonstrate. We should just obey the law and put up with authority, even if they bring back the law where the lord of the estate gets to fuck a mans virgin newlywed before he does, because authority is allways right, just and correct.

 

[vodkazvictim]

Goddamn this 99% shit is getting me irate...look, here's where I'm comin' from you hippie fucking slobs...I work full time and overtime every fucking week and even still am barely getting by...and I have a college degree that I'm not using at the moment, because there's not much I can do with it right now...I commute 40 miles each way to said crap ass job, get treated like shit, and generally hate it...but you don't hear me fucking bitching and moaning and asking for a goddamn bailout/handout...I made the choices in my life, no one else, and I am living with the results of those choices. Why the FUCK should that be anybody's problem but my own? Why the FUCK should I stand with these retards, demanding equality and for the banks/wall street to be ripped down...personal responsibility has disappeared, no one takes the fucking blame for their own fucked up life, it's always somebody else's responsibility to fix it...well, I say FUCK THAT.

You don't like your station in life? Do something about it other than hurling projectiles at cops. I am. I quit smoking to save money. I quit eating out. I quit drinking. I'm careful with every fucking penny I make, because I don't have many, but that is because it is MY LIFE and MY CHOICES. Fucking entitled little hippie brats need a good fucking spanking and sent home...I swear to fucking god I'm ready to snap on these little bitches.

Wait wait, you're doing EVERYTHING you can, you have a degree and you're working40 hour weeks and STILL getting screwed? Well if that's the case, how can you believe that the odds AREN'T stacked against you? How can you not see the protestor's points?

Where's the responsibility on Wall Street? Your taxes bailed out the smartest criminals in the country.

The worst thing is that that simply feeds the parasites, resulting in more and larger parasites. That means that the situation will get worse and worse in a downward spiral until it is corrected or, more likely, the food source for the parasites (the US)is destroyed.

Are we supposed to take you SERIOUSLY, when you can't even break away from the text-talk?

Let me ask it another way... Those OWS people who are "protesting", are doing so because, why???

I see them using the very tools of capitalism to comfort themselves, while at the same time protesting against.....capitalism. I see tents that were manufactured by employees of companies who earn a living making tents, sleeping bags, back packs, camping stoves, etc. However, you might come back and say... "Yeah, but the owner of the company is extremely wealthy and it isn't fair that the employees aren't rich."

NEWS FLASH.... if they don't want to work for someone else, start their own business and become wealthy and employ others to make the product that you are selling. That, or remain an employee of a company and make the best of your life. Maybe go back to school and get a better education??? A lot of people have done that. Or, strike out on your own and start from the bottom like so many others who became self sufficient.

I owe you nothing. I am not going to give you anything of mine that I have worked for. If you are unhappy with your situation, do something about it besides whining like a little bitch because someone else has more than you.

NEWSFLASH: Socialism has NEVER, EVER worked.

Yes, they're using the tools of Capitalism (tents, etc) in an attempt to fix the corrupted Capitalism in which they live. And you know what? It's their right to attempt to fix THEIR society. It's not the divine right of Capitalism to take over a society at the top and then say "If you don't like it, move."

Not only has Socialism never worked, it's never truly been attempted. It's most recent failing has been "Socialism for the rich", which involves the rich (banks, etc) being saved at the expense of the poor.

They have their hearts in the right place but unfortunately they're efforts are misguided. They should be protesting greed and corruption in Washington not Wall Street. As for the police and all the ILLEGAL things the first poster stated, just because something is illegal doesn't mean it should be. That's kinda the idea behind assembling in protest duh. The police deserve what's coming to them for abusing their power and being treated in a higher class than us private sector suckers.

Here in England the parasites have recently attacked police privelidges. It would be interesting to see if the US police would continue to support the parasites once they started to feed on the US police.

It amazes me that so many seemingly normal, working folk fall into supporting the behind-the-scenes dealings of the bankers-politicians that have screwed those exact same folk over...is it because they hate the 1st Amendment that much?

It amazes me too.

All I know is i'm bust working my ass off to see that my tax dollars are being spent well giving these people welfare so they can live traveller style and bitch and moan and cause a scene when the cameras are rolling because they weren't lucky enough to be born into a rich family because they obviously have some sort of rich bitch kid concept that they should be given everything!

You know the people whose welfare your tax dollars pay for are the 1%, right?

Meanwhile Bank of America pays severance packages totaling over 17 million dollars to two people AND plans to lay off 30,000 people.

Amazing how the right wingers constantly ignore these factors.

Leadership is expensive. Executives negotiate every last employment detail up front before they sign.

You desire that caliber of talent in your organization? Then you pay for it, or they walk.

Because someone else will pay. That's just the way it goes.

Let me tell you a little something about big bucks corporate leadership:
They are revolving door back-patters; a small group who all approve each others raises and promotions despite whatever disasters befall.

This leadership resulted in the financial collapse.
This leadership (in the case of Rover) let chinese businessmen get it drunk, then signed up to a deal that banckrupted Rover.
This leadership was mostly awa playing gold when the planes hit the twin towers. Why? Because this leadership spends most of it's time goofing off work.
This leadership is what's destroying the West, because it's leadership by parasites.

thats awesome? shutting down the most important port in northern california, fucking up trade and commerce all over the place, causing damage to every business, not just the "greedy corporate" ones.

and the strike that had 300 teachers not show up to work, causing classes to either be cancelled, or combined creating an even tougher environment on an already stressed school system. how in the FUCK is that productive at all?

or how about when they marched to CAL Berkeley to protest at the tuition office, only to find it closed, so they yell and scream at the security guards for being assholes, simply because theyre doing the job they were hired to do. how in the fuck does that help anything? at all?

this is all just a bunch of bullshit, being carried out by whiney, dirty, useless people who dont have the gusto to get off their asses and get a job. its as simple as that. people are trying to relive the 60's, cause what they see in movies and history books looked fun and easy. that latter word being the key word.

You're right, people shouldn't be angry at security guards for just doing their jobs. Nobody could blame the guards of the Nazi concentration camps for what they did, because they were just doing their jobs, after all.

But from what I gathered after a quick read - they are stopping goods from LEAVING the US. (I hope my dyslexia was kicking in)
That's stoopid, if they were turning back the Chinese-made goods, I'd applaud it, but seems bass ackwards to me if they are stopping the flow of exports.

Wouldn't surprise me - the parasites can make more money that way. Should the US ever fall short of their living standards asa result of their parasitical actions, they will simply leave. At least something good could come of a collapse in the US.

Not gonna lie; I can't say the country I'm in now is any better (though I think it is, if only marginally), but this thread here highlights the sort of discourse that brought me to leave the USA: politics is treated like football. You pick your sides, hunker down, and fight with everything you got, whether it makes sense or not (but everybody's quite good at making it seem like their position makes sense...or you know, fight for your side when it's not even about sides fighting).

That's for anybody who has referred to a group of people as 'dirty hippies' or 'neo-cons'. With dialogue like that, I wish us the best of luck, 'cause it sure as hell isn't critical thinking that'll get us anywhere better.

He's right, when we choose a side rather than choosing from the available options, we lose.

You and people like you are the reason why the US is fucked. Our government has been waging an economic war against the working class that started with Reagan. During the course of this war they've managed to brainwash some of you to such a degree that you actually see the OWS movement as a bad thing. Our government is bought and paid for by private entities who only act in their own interest and what do you do? You bitch about the people who are trying to change it.

:yesyes:

 

[Supafly]

Goddamn this 99% shit is getting me irate...look, here's where I'm comin' from you hippie fucking slobs...I work full time and overtime every fucking week and even still am barely getting by...and I have a college degree that I'm not using at the moment, because there's not much I can do with it right now...I commute 40 miles each way to said crap ass job, get treated like shit, and generally hate it...but you don't hear me fucking bitching and moaning and asking for a goddamn bailout/handout...I made the choices in my life, no one else, and I am living with the results of those choices. Why the FUCK should that be anybody's problem but my own? Why the FUCK should I stand with these retards, demanding equality and for the banks/wall street to be ripped down...personal responsibility has disappeared, no one takes the fucking blame for their own fucked up life, it's always somebody else's responsibility to fix it...well, I say FUCK THAT.

You don't like your station in life? Do something about it other than hurling projectiles at cops. I am. I quit smoking to save money. I quit eating out. I quit drinking. I'm careful with every fucking penny I make, because I don't have many, but that is because it is MY LIFE and MY CHOICES. Fucking entitled little hippie brats need a good fucking spanking and sent home...I swear to fucking god I'm ready to snap on these little bitches.

I find your point of view irritating. You have a college degree, and are in a poor, underpaid job. Is that because you have a job below your abilities, or is that because the job you do is paid under it's true standards?

Because that is a major problem these days. Companies want cheap workers for jobs that used to be well-paid. Pretty much all workers are sliding down to poverty.

If you find that okay, well, that says a lot about your mind.

Big companies and the stock exchanges are ruining 99%, and THAT is what those people are protesting.

Oh, and stop calling them 'hippie fucking slobs'

 

[busaguy79]

Ok so everyone here like it or not knows what the problem or what parts of the problem is so how do we fix this?? Its one thing protesting saying you want change but exactly what do you want to (realistically) happen??

 

[busaguy79]

You're right, people shouldn't be angry at security guards for just doing their jobs. Nobody could blame the guards of the Nazi concentration camps for what they did, because they were just doing their jobs, after all.

Ok now there is a lot of differences between a 'rent a cop' getting paid minimum wage and some fucker named Kuntz that got his jollys off popping off Jews in the head from the safety of the watch tower he occupies!

If you disagree with people alright, don't start shooting your mouth off saying stupid shit that totally undermines any good valid points you've actually made!

 

[luvsemlarge]

Quite a few of the protesters were arrested at the shipyard the other day, and when they did background checks on them, they discovered many of them grew up with their families in $500,000 homes. Can somebody tell me wtf those punks who are protesting, are whining about?

 

[busaguy79]

Quite a few of the protesters were arrested at the shipyard the other day, and when they did background checks on them, they discovered many of them grew up with their families in $500,000 homes. Can somebody tell me wtf those punks who are protesting, are whining about?

Being there protesting is the fashionable thing to do and they were probably trying to pick up some chicks or something

 

[accountantNOT]

Quite a few of the protesters were arrested at the shipyard the other day, and when they did background checks on them, they discovered many of them grew up with their families in $500,000 homes. Can somebody tell me wtf those punks who are protesting, are whining about?

Please cite a source where you getting this information from.

 

[accountantNOT]

Being there protesting is the fashionable thing to do and they were probably trying to pick up some chicks or something

Well, atleast their penises are working unlike baggers who can't go beyond teabagging.

 

[luvsemlarge]

Please cite a source where you getting this information from.

Sean Hannity

 

[Toothsaw]

Ok so everyone here like it or not knows what the problem or what parts of the problem is so how do we fix this?? Its one thing protesting saying you want change but exactly what do you want to (realistically) happen??

1: Lobbying needs to be outlawed. How can we ever expect our government to act in our best interest when it can so easily be bought.
2: Our government needs to go. All those asshats in Washinton have been in power way to long and have shown time and time again they are unable to solve the problems the US faces. It's time for a fresh start and a new generation to take the helm.
3: a multi party political system. The democrats and republicans know they'll be in power on and off and because of this both parties have become way to comfortable. A multi party system brings "competition" and forces parties to actually work and earn the voters vote.
4: The law that says a corporation is a natural person needs to be scrapped asap.
5: the banking world needs to be regulated. They've shown their greed and are unable to regulate themselves. Before everything was deregulated banks used to be small(er) companies with ties to the community and actually worked for their customers. We need to go back to that.

 

[accountantNOT]

Sean Hannity

You mean the same Sean Hannity who had to apologize on air for using FAKE footage?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS1NWYV1i_E

The same Hannity who deceptively edited Obama's speech to intentionally misrepresent what he said.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3hMODMyed8

If he can't be honest with ACTUAL video footage, how is anyone supposed to take his commentary seriously.

 

[luvsemlarge]

Sometimes it takes a cartoon to clarify and simplify things....

 

[Galactic]

I find your point of view irritating. You have a college degree, and are in a poor, underpaid job. Is that because you have a job below your abilities, or is that because the job you do is paid under it's true standards?

Because that is a major problem these days. Companies want cheap workers for jobs that used to be well-paid. Pretty much all workers are sliding down to poverty.

If you find that okay, well, that says a lot about your mind.

Big companies and the stock exchanges are ruining 99%, and THAT is what those people are protesting.

Oh, and stop calling them 'hippie fucking slobs'

Your first question: both. Second point you made...umm, I think I made it pretty clear that I'm not OK with my situation, but that I am also not going to run out and blame everyone or anyone else for MY life...I made the choices to get here, no one else did, thus, I live with the consequences until I figure out something new.

Lastly, and I'm not being a dick here, but in Colorado, where the hippies seem to grow in numbers like rabbits, they are slobs, they do appear dirty, and hence, the names. Mature of me? No. I am fed up with seeing so many people, hippies definitely included in this mix, who do nothing and yet bitch the most.

 

[luvsemlarge]

This cartoon from 1948 ... the more things change, the more things stay the same.

 

[xfire]

4: The law that says a corporation is a natural person needs to be scrapped asap.

Move that one to #1 and you solve the rest of the problems. The modern corporation didn't exist when this nation was founded and would have been made unconstitutional if they did.