Warships

Theopolis Q. Hossenffer

I have no opinion
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U.S.S. Maine

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U.S.S. Arizona

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USS Olympia


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HMAS Perth

HMAS Australia

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HMAS Australia


 
JS Izumo (DDH-183)

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You'll notice that despite it's appearance, the designation states it's actually a "multi-purpose operation destroyer" as Japan is "technically" not allowed to have aircraft carriers since WWII.
However, since Japan got their F-35s, they're converting the ship to be able to launch them. It's going to be interesting how it all turns out.
 



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Nagato, after being hit by a second A-bomb

Nagato has a few distinctions, like being the only Japanese battleship to survive the war, and as shown above, one of the few battleships to survive not one, but TWO nuclear blasts. She was 1.5 kms away from ground zero for the first and just 870 meters away from the second. She survived the blasts but capsized 5 days after the second one. Her crew probably wouldn't have survived, but it's pretty crazy that she was only lightly damaged from the first blast and was basically fully operational. Shows you how tough they made them.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
I read somewhere, it would take a near direct hit from an ICBM to disable one of our modern aircraft carrier.
 
Any modern enemy military isn't going to launch just one missile and then call it good while they sit around and wait to see what happens. They will launch dozens, maybe hundreds of missiles at different ranges and angles considering they know carriers come with a convoy of ships with missile interception systems. Eventually those will get overwhelmed.

Also if somehow the ships isn't sunk all it takes is to damage the top where the planes land more than slightly to practically render the purpose of a carrier worthless, and it's not like they can be patched up in a few days.
 
Also if somehow the ships isn't sunk all it takes is to damage the top where the planes land more than slightly to practically render the purpose of a carrier worthless, and it's not like they can be patched up in a few days.
In all fairness, that's what they said when the Yorktown would take several months to recover from the damage from the battle of the Coral sea, and yet managed to fix her in 72 hours, just in time to participate at Midway.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
My point was, the modern carriers are so big, and well built, it would take a lot, to take it out.

Obviously as we all know what they were able to do in WWII, now it's a bit more complicated.
 
My point was, the modern carriers are so big, and well built, it would take a lot, to take it out.

Obviously as we all know what they were able to do in WWII, now it's a bit more complicated.
Oh, I totally agree on that first point. But I feel that ability to both sink and repair ships have grown exponentially since WWII as well. And just like the Yorktown, I feel that if a carrier was damaged today, they could patch it up to operational status in a few days if it were prioritized in the same way. Modular design has come a long way, and that's been applied to ships as well.

I think one of the X factors that is lacking for the Japanese and Chinese navies is recent real world combat experience. Neither have significantly participated in military operations in the 21st century, while countries like the US have had plenty of experience. Japanese pilots at Pearl Harbor were already veterans from the ongoing sino-Japanese war, and it really showed in the first several months. Now those tables have turned.

The only major operation that I can think of which these navies participated in is the war on Somali pirates, and that obviously wouldn't have been a challenge at all.

Not that I'm hoping that it will come to it, but for all the new tech that these guys have, we have yet to actually see it in use.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Well I can't disagree that the more technicalities you put into construction and engineering, the more difficulty, and expense you create for maintenance and repair.
 

Theopolis Q. Hossenffer

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HMS Prince Royal

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HMS St. Lawrence

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USS Pennsylvania (centre foreground) and North Carolina (centre background), ships of the line of the U.S. Navy from the early and mid-19th century. In this 1897 chromolithograph after a watercolour by maritime illustrator Frederick S. Cozzens, the two ships of the line are shown as if accompanied by two navy brigs from earlier in the 19th century (left background and right foreground).


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HMS Inconstant

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Mahmudiye Ottoman Navy.
 
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xfire

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I've been looking for a place to park this image of the IJN Kaga, one of the fleet carriers that attacked Pearl Harbor. The cool thing about Kaga is her down-turned tricked out exhaust vent. The Imperial Japanese Navy was pimping their aircraft carriers all the way back to WWII. *posting this one full-sized instead of a thumbnail!

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Apart from the souped up vent, Kaga and Akagi had another feature that was unique to them: They were the only TRIPLE-decked carriers in history!
Sure, the idea turned out to be impractical compared to angled flight decks, but how awesome must it have looked to see simultaneous waves of planes being launched from a single carrier?

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Theopolis Q. Hossenffer

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