War, what is it good for?

Putin issues warning to United States with new nuclear doctrine
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-issues-warning-us-with-new-nuclear-doctrine-2024-11-19/



At this point, it really seems like both sides are going by the "doctrine" of "Fuck around and find out"

Who is making the decisions in The White House choosing to climb this ladder of escalation? Next time Russia may not just fire a warning shot.

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ICC Pre-Trial Chamber I rejects the State of Israel’s challenges to jurisdiction and issues warrants of arrest for Benjamin Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant
https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/situat...al-chamber-i-rejects-state-israels-challenges



Let's see if he's above the law.

Israel's goal is to depopulate Gaza with Hamas being used as the excuse. Those you do not kill you allow to starve to death or die from disease.

More and more information coming in suggesting Netanyahu had knowledge from several sources warning of October 7. Netanyahu is a desperate man looking at a long prison sentence and sees too much benefit extending and expanding the war. He is a shameless parasite who will do anything to avoid having his power, freedom, and money taken away. If anything Bibi has betrayed the Jews.
 
Asad might be allied with the ruskies and not a good fella, but the rebels are arguably more hardcore, and they're not exactly fighting for any moral reasons. It's like ISIS replacing Al Qaida.
 
Asad might be allied with the ruskies and not a good fella, but the rebels are arguably more hardcore, and they're not exactly fighting for any moral reasons. It's like ISIS replacing Al Qaida.

I think it is important for Syria to be stable. Looks like the Israelis want to cause Civil/Internal War to splinter and divide both Lebanon and Syria to separate them from the Iranians making them easier to dominate. Russia has a Naval Facility off the coast of Northern Syria that they will not be giving up either.
 
I think it is important for Syria to be stable. Looks like the Israelis want to cause Civil/Internal War to splinter and divide both Lebanon and Syria to separate them from the Iranians making them easier to dominate. Russia has a Naval Facility off the coast of Northern Syria that they will not be giving up either.
It would be interesting to see how the ruskies would deal with a successful coup.
Presumably they are still supporting Asad in this little scuffle, so if he loses, does russia align themselves with the rebels to keep those bases and influence in the middle east?

I have to wonder how bibi is taking this. He must be loving that they're killing themselves from the inside, but I also likely prefers Asad in power because he's been able to handle him for quite a long time now. And Asad being busy with the civil war means that they largely kept to themselves. A successful Islamist rebellion could bring in a Syrian government that's much more volatile. I really feel for the Syrians, since there's really no good option for them here.
 
I will say this was good timing for attacking Aleppo and the Central Government of Syria with Russia's resources stretched out, Hezbollah degraded, and the Iranians focusing on Israel.

I wonder who is funding, training, and equipping these "rebels".
 
I mean, the Syrian rebels Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) were literally a part of al-Qaida before they did their own thing. That certainly leaves it to anyone's guess as to who is funding them, but you would hope that neither the US or the idf want to get in bed with them.
 
I mean, the Syrian rebels Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) were literally a part of al-Qaida before they did their own thing. That certainly leaves it to anyone's guess as to who is funding them, but you would hope that neither the US or the idf want to get in bed with them.

You would hope not. You would think not. Logically speaking, right? Morally too. Assuming our US Government feels the same way about Al-Qaeda and/or Al-Qaeda offshoots that the US Citizens do.
 
Syrian government appears to have fallen in stunning end to 50-year rule of Assad family
https://apnews.com/article/syria-assad-sweida-daraa-homs-hts-qatar-7f65823bbf0a7bd331109e8dff419430

The head of a Syrian opposition war monitor said President Bashar Assad had left the country for an undisclosed location, fleeing ahead of insurgents who said they had entered Damascus following the remarkably swift advance across the country.
Looks like Assad is gone. Big question is who's going to take his place. Even the rebel forces don't have their own leader, so truly nobody knows.
 
We got Hassan the Head Chopper flying the Black Flag over Damascus. The Israelis are smiling with Syria splintered even more, Assad gone, and Hezbollah's supply chain cut off. Hopefully we get some stable leadership soon so Syria doesn't turn into Libya. Russia needs to protect their warm water Naval base in Northern Syria somehow. Iran needs to figure out their strategy too.
 
We got Hassan the Head Chopper flying the Black Flag over Damascus. The Israelis are smiling with Syria splintered even more, Assad gone, and Hezbollah's supply chain cut off. Hopefully we get some stable leadership soon so Syria doesn't turn into Libya. Russia needs to protect their warm water Naval base in Northern Syria somehow. Iran needs to figure out their strategy too.
https://www.reuters.com/world/russi...en-orders-peaceful-power-handover-2024-12-08/

Reading between the lines, it seems like the ruskies made a backroom deal with the rebels that they wouldn't intervene so long as they could keep their bases under the new mgmt.
 
https://www.reuters.com/world/russi...en-orders-peaceful-power-handover-2024-12-08/

Reading between the lines, it seems like the ruskies made a backroom deal with the rebels that they wouldn't intervene so long as they could keep their bases under the new mgmt.

The Russians need that Naval Base as they have a lot of business in the Middle East and Africa. Looks like the Sunnis leveled up on the Shiites a few notches and Iran is Russia's partner.

I could be wrong but I thought Syria was better under Assad instead of rolling the dice with these religious nutjobs.

Jolani is former Al-Qaeda, ISIS, and Al-Nusra. Doesn't sound like an kind of moderate freedom fighter to me.
 

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Denying countries their free pick, which league of nation they feel trustworthy to safeguard their freedoms? Look at the eastern countries, look at the western countries, which would you associae yourself with?

That's right.

The former soviet union, now Russia, has the choice to become more attractive to others, it chooses to become worse. Don't cry when more countries than the Ukraine feel safer with the NATO
 
Ukraine will never be in NATO. I wouldn’t allow it if I were Russia and I would also see it as an existential threat on my border.

The people in The West encouraging this war to continue are more interested in degrading Russia than helping Ukraine. Also many are getting rich as other people continue to die.

The war is over and it’s now just an excuse to spend money and manufacture weapons that will make zero difference on the battlefield. Ukraine’s problem is lack of manpower.
 
Russia is not giving up, especially if their allies are now sending troops. It's clear that the war will only end if Ukraine gives up, or the West directly intervenes. Inclusion in NATO would constitute the latter. Between sending NATO troops on the ground, or simply including them in the NATO club, I'd say the latter is more attractive. And both are better than dragging this out like other stagnant wars.
 
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