Vatican calls Catholicism "Only True Church"
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That's a good point, it just still surprises me to see the Pope say something like that after Vatican Council II, simply because it looks like VC II was their way of modernizing the church. I think this may actually drive more people away from the religion, but that may just be me. :2 cents:
That pope is going backwards on everything. That is one of them.
Another one is that they allow masses in latin again and I am pretty sure many communauties will do that. Apart from having the advantage that people won't understand one silly word, it will give them the impression that the Catholic church is fighting back other religions on their ground by getting like them (so they think) : fundamentalist, intolerant and more radical.
You are right, it is far from the more open approach to people and to other cultures and religions that Vatican II wanted. I think it is a big step backwards. I hope as you said that it willl turn people away from religion.
Altough (but that's off topic) spirituality, sometimes found in religions, is IMHO something useful.:wave2:
Why isn't the mass in Latin being called un-american by the right wing?I thought we only wanted english spoken here!:bowdown:
because they care more about their religion then their country
It's really no different then what any other Christian sect says about the other. Think of it as an older brother telling the younger siblings he's better. I mean it doesn't really amount to anything at all. Most people will just simply ignore it. Although, I personally find it kind of funny because I live in the Bible Belt and most everyone is Southern Baptist. Just more ammo for me.
Totally agree with you my friend, spirituality is definately useful, it's just surprising to me that they are now essentially limiting the appeal of their religion. I was actually talking to a friend of mine yesterday about this, and although his family is Catholic, he considers himself agnostic, and now refuses to take part in anything that is related to the Catholic church. Seems to me that anyone who is considering converting to Catholicism may have a harder time doing so considering these statements. :2 cents:
If your faith is not belief in the 'one truth', why have faith and believe in your religion at all? Either you believe it or you don't, it's not like the religions are unclear on what you're supposed to believe when you subscribe to a particular religion. You're faith is misguided if you think your religion or whatever is not the 'one truth', you're defeating the purpose of even having a religion and following its tenants, unless you believe in some sort of whacked out unitarian thing..
This is one of the many things that are messed up with organized 'religion', the systematic control of 'spirituality'.
This is one of the many things that are messed up with organized 'religion', the systematic control of 'spirituality'.
There are other threads on this but, people will tolerate a lot to believe they are doing the right thing, particularly if they think God's blessing will give them eternal life.
It was Marx or Engels that said;
Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_marx
It was Marx or Engels that said;
Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_marx
Nah, they'll bring back Celebrity Death Match with special referee Stone Cold Steve Austin.
Well, the point is that you make a lot of promises to people in God's name, or claim it's God's will to fight or do whatever, bless the troops and people will suffer horribly and do whatever you want them to do.
Free will for the most part is something we believe we have because someone told us we have it.
Free will for the most part is something we believe we have because someone told us we have it.
"The world's Catholic population-- just over 1 billion-- increased by 1.1% in the latest year for which full statistics are available. "
5.6 billion are not Catholic! What make thems think they have the "true truth" in Religion. Guess all the Methodists, Lutherans, Taoists, Hindus, Mormans, Islamics etc... are wasting their time...
I am not religious... But Catholics are nuts stating this and they should be ashamed of what they did to Africa in their conversion crusades..
"Roman Catholic opposition to birth control has long been criticized as contributing to overpopulation, poverty and destitution. More recently, such criticism has charged that their refusal to allow missionaries to discuss condoms in Africa has exacerbated the AIDS epidemic there"
5.6 billion are not Catholic! What make thems think they have the "true truth" in Religion. Guess all the Methodists, Lutherans, Taoists, Hindus, Mormans, Islamics etc... are wasting their time...
I am not religious... But Catholics are nuts stating this and they should be ashamed of what they did to Africa in their conversion crusades..
"Roman Catholic opposition to birth control has long been criticized as contributing to overpopulation, poverty and destitution. More recently, such criticism has charged that their refusal to allow missionaries to discuss condoms in Africa has exacerbated the AIDS epidemic there"
Whats even scarier is that the one place the Catholic Church is growing is Africa who also has the countries with already the highest birth rates in the world.For this reason I dismiss all the so-called humantarian things the church does as it always is accompanied by their prostelitizing there belief system as part of it.
One of the problem of the catholic church (I mean their leaders, because the priests that live daily with the people of their communauty may have different views) is that they completly discredit (I hope it is a word) the christian philosophy.
Because there is a christian philosophy and we forgot about it and never talk about it. For the Occidental world (I am not talking about other religions or cultures, I don't know enough) a lot of what we consider as our good vaues (equality of all men, of all men and women, tolerance, respect, forgiveness) most of what is written in contries charter of rights have been said 2000 years ago. But for centuries, the leaders of the catholic church have behaved in the exact opposite way.
When they say that they are the true church, that they represent christian philosophy, it is easy to understand why most people who are searching for spirituality don't even bother to look in that direction.
Because there is a christian philosophy and we forgot about it and never talk about it. For the Occidental world (I am not talking about other religions or cultures, I don't know enough) a lot of what we consider as our good vaues (equality of all men, of all men and women, tolerance, respect, forgiveness) most of what is written in contries charter of rights have been said 2000 years ago. But for centuries, the leaders of the catholic church have behaved in the exact opposite way.
When they say that they are the true church, that they represent christian philosophy, it is easy to understand why most people who are searching for spirituality don't even bother to look in that direction.
Wow I hadn't even thought of that, great point. And the fact that they just made their own religion seem somewhat archaic by essentially starting the same argument that has led to wars in past centuries doesn't seem to help too much.
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