United States of ALEC

[MustBeGood]

Here is ALEC's farce of a website to make them look like a 990 tax exempt charity.

http://www.alec.org/

 

[Supafly]

Everyone talks about how conservative Texas is but only about 29% of all registered voters cast a ballot in the last election. About 57% of them voted republican overall. That means the fate and future of Texas for the next 2 to 4 years was decided by only 16.5% of the registered voter population (not the overall population). Anyone who thinks their vote doesn't count needs to think again. We're letting a slight minority of voters speak for all of us....at least here in Texas.

If people would take closer looks at how close votes are, after counting them out, and see the actual amount of votes missing to swing it the other way. In the midterm elections, one man was kicked out after six seasons in office by around 80 people deciding actively against him.

If anyone still decides to NOT vote, he gets a STFU from me in any discussion about how bad things are.

 

[Rattrap]

If anyone still decides to NOT vote, he gets a STFU from me in any discussion about how bad things are.

This. For emphasis.

 

[bobjustbob]

Here is ALEC's farce of a website to make them look like a 990 tax exempt charity.

http://www.alec.org/

That ain't a charity, it's a county club.

Members of state or national congresses $500 per year.
Former members of state or national congresses $50 to stay on the list. Up to $5000 depending upon how many parties you want to get invited to.
Private sector membership $7500-25,000 to network with the current and former legislators.

Those have got to be some ass kicking parties to be at. No pigs in a blanket or tap beer here.

 

[Legzman]

Our vote is shit in America. Just voting for a person that will work with ALEC and lobbyist.

They target state and the national government on what big business wants passed and what they don't want to passed. They have been doing this for 40 years.

Home of the free. Yeah right. They blind us with like Bob said BS TV with commercials he said on another thread "15 minutes can save you whatever %". And sporting events like during the Roman Empire Colosseum events to distract us and make it seem like you should be proud for living in a country where your vote counts and is the most democratic form anywhere in the world.

Glad now I didn't show up to the polls for the midterms. Wake up America. Coporations are not people. And I never heard of ALEC and always blamed the koch Bros. But those two are not alone pulling the wool over our eyes that your vote counts. While us Americans sit on all types of forums bitching on which corrupt political party is the best and sometimes insulting each other to prove what was fed to you is right. Divide and conquer is the strategy anyways.

I've known this for years now. I agree with your rant. We should nuke washington!

 

[Jagger69]

Well all I can say is that if you really want to be totally powerless against the evil forces of oppression that are closing their pincers more and more upon us every day....go ahead and voluntarily give up your right to vote. Here in uber-conservative Texas, I consistently vote for losing candidates. However, that doesn't mean my voice isn't heard....especially as more and more like-minded individuals choose to join me as time goes on. To do less is to totally surrender to the powers that be and I will never do that, ever. You shouldn't either. Always question authority....ALWAYS.

 

[MustBeGood]

If people would take closer looks at how close votes are, after counting them out, and see the actual amount of votes missing to swing it the other way. In the midterm elections, one man was kicked out after six seasons in office by around 80 people deciding actively against him.

If anyone still decides to NOT vote, he gets a STFU from me in any discussion about how bad things are.

This. For emphasis.

That cliche would of worked 10-15 years ago. But today as I posted George Washington political party warning holds no water. Both parties are on some BS of no compromise and has to be our way.

Example, GOP is threatening to shut the government down after 12-11-2014 if Obama uses executive power to solve the illegal immigration detainees: http://www.usnews.com/opinion/artic...ens-to-shut-down-the-government-pundits-react

Why vote when you are having politician stick to party principles instead of compromise for the commonwealth of all?

Third party, but they have no traction when the "American Idol" public is stuck on voting for these two ass hat parties that are today on the extreme of left vs right party principles.

 

[MustBeGood]

The Supreme court also is suppose to be neutral but they are also effected by lobbyist.

How can political parties and special interest groups lobby or influence the US Supreme Court?

they send letters to government officials (studyisland)



Lobbying is the process of trying to influence government decisions, and usually carries the negative connotation of secret negotiations, bribes and exchanged favors. Special interest groups and other parties aren't able to lobby the Supreme Court Justices in the same way they lobby Congress because they don't have direct access to the Justices or their staff, and there is no ostensible incentive on the Court's part to accept outside viewpoints.
The vehicle through which representatives of special interest groups are able to express opinions on matters before the Court is called an amicus curiae (pl. amici curiae), or "friend of the court" brief (or sometimes academic paper) related to questions of law or fact in the case at bar.

In order to be eligible to provide an amicus curiae, a person or group not party to the litigation under review, but who believes the Court's decision may affect its interest, may file if: 1) the brief is accompanied by written consent of all parties; or, 2) they file a motion for leave to submit amicus curiae to the Supreme Court, identifying why the "friend" has an interest in the case, and explaining the reasons the submission may be useful to the Court.

The Court is under no obligation to grant permission, nor to read the brief. Acceptance or rejection is solely at the Court's discretion, except when amici are filed by the United States, a U.S. agency, State, Territory, or Commonwealth. These are automatically accepted.

Rule 37(1) of the Rules of the Supreme Court of the United States explains:

"An amicus curiae brief that brings to the attention of the relevant matter not already brought to its attention by the parties may be of considerable help to the Court. An amicus curiae brief that does not serve this purpose burdens the Court, and its filing is generally not favored."

On very rare occasions, the Court may grant a motion of an amicus curiae to participate in the oral argument.

Next up most likely lobbying the President himself. But it is done anyways with campaign contributions.

 

[MustBeGood]

That ain't a charity, it's a county club.

Members of state or national congresses $500 per year.
Former members of state or national congresses $50 to stay on the list. Up to $5000 depending upon how many parties you want to get invited to.
Private sector membership $7500-25,000 to network with the current and former legislators.

Those have got to be some ass kicking parties to be at. No pigs in a blanket or tap beer here.

Current Legislators dues is $50. Some corporations pay from 300K to 500K and more then once a year to get a model bill influence for party members currently in term.

 

[Jagger69]

Again, give up the right to vote and see all of your civil liberties follow the same course in short order. If both candidates are evil, vote for the lesser. Hold your nose and pull the lever.

 

[MustBeGood]

Again, give up the right to vote and see all of your civil liberties follow the same course in short order. If both candidates are evil, vote for the lesser. Hold your nose and pull the lever.

Young people are the main problem to get them ro vote. If athletes and entertainers can't persuade them, who can. They will be the one screwed because this fiat money we run our economy on will be worthless soon.

 

[MustBeGood]

I've known this for years now. I agree with your rant. We should nuke washington!

You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.

Not nuke Washington but a Wall Street type of sit in until these asholes work for us and not the corporations.

 

[Supafly]

You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.

Not nuke Washington but a Wall Street type of sit in until these asholes work for us and not the corporations.

Just yesterday watched a video about Glenn Beck. He is now officially crazy. I think we do not really have to discuss Michelle Bachmann or Sarah Palin, that is settled.

My point: If these persons can get the political and public weight they did, and especially in Beck's case - why don't you guys do the same? Face it, you are raving mad, too, so the major factor for your success is a go

Now start your web-blogs or whatever, just remember:

It was your best friend Supa who made you :stir:

 

[MustBeGood]

Just yesterday watched a video about Glenn Beck. He is now officially crazy. I think we do not really have to discuss Michelle Bachmann or Sarah Palin, that is settled.

My point: If these persons can get the political and public weight they did, and especially in Beck's case - why don't you guys do the same? Face it, you are raving mad, too, so the major factor for your success is a go

Now start your web-blogs or whatever, just remember:

It was your best friend Supa who made you :stir:

Starting to hear Jagger, RatTrap, and you. Next post will tell you why. But my efforts is on finding a grass root movement to stop bull shit politicians that answer to the money people who help them get elected with funds to wage a TV campaign on attacking opponents but not telling their real intentions.

 

[MustBeGood]

Keystone XL. A ALEC model bill from big oil, without the truth.

GOP supporters, watch and learn the real deal on who gets screwed if this pipeline is approved. Nothing but a make a buck farce with the Koch Industries as the wagon leaders.

But most likely GOP supporters will watch 5 minutes turn off and keep on listening to the lies as they have you guys for support in their back pockets.

Great Plains farm land will be fucked up, the poor around the refineries will see more then 1 out of 5 with health problems, won't lower gas prices, and net jobs after 2 years will be 50.

The truth. But we have the power to advance alternative energy and stop the suburbs to the cities gas use from the ones that buy into you can't live around minorities that would put you closer to your jobs.

 

[MustBeGood]

We can't both become the same pawn
That's made to fall
Oil that tastes like blood
Stole the summer scent
From me to you
You're stabbing me through you
You're stabbing you through him
And betting most of...
This world!
We'll add enough of the world

 

[MustBeGood]

Fox News lies.

Great line in this video (paraphrasing) "People in America after their fav TV shows and fantasy football will believe the lies that the media tells them"

How we create real jobs? Stop Wal-Mart exploitation wage wise Asis workers and pay Americans a real living wages by making "Made in the USA". A real statement that puts money back into American workers hands with via the multiplier effect that will helps for the commonwealth with jobs.

From what I was taught as a Econ major on trade, you only trade for resources that you don't have. We know how to make manufacture goods. But ALEC wants free trade so they can maximize profits for bigger dividends checks to the stock holders like Mitt Romney.

 

[MustBeGood]

Reprise cartoon.

I get my daughter this weekend and will show her this from another thread about ALEC.

At least she can say bull when in US History in high school on how bills are passed in this day and age. Unless us wise adults wake up and fight the system that is holding us back.


But to some here this is full retard like Eric is cast typed as who post common sense.

 

[MustBeGood]

Another under viewed youtube video about the harm tar sands will do. Madagascar tar sands deposits also.

 

[MustBeGood]

Sweet home Chicago

Shades of 1968.