Turkey to block 'insulting' Web sites

Then I am asking you,why are you working against us?
Against "us" - who is "us" ? Unlike you, I don't live in collectivist minded fantasy.

Even if it is so,it is illegal to refuse the armenian genocide in Sweden and France.But as I understand you are not talking about them..Why us?
Because this thread is not about France and Sweden but about Turkey

I answered this question above.Read there carefully.;)
I read that article ... and laughed.

Kurt (or whatever your name is),

* I've spent over 11 years studying World War II, World War I and the Holocaust.
* I've met with soldiers of the Wehrmacht and the SS and collected first hand reports and accounts.
* There is an entire room dedicated to my books in my home. Two walls of the four are dedicated to the Eastern Front and the Holocaust alone.

If you are going to debate the veracity of the Holocaust - you are going to have to do better than produce garbage from WorldnetDaily and a columnist for Egypt's STATE Controlled newspaper.


cheers,
 
And you MuchachaLove,can you please not meddle?It is being my job to warn users,until moderators (I think this site has no admin) doing their job. ;)
It is not your job to warn others. If you have a problem with a post or a member, then you can the report post function or you can contact a moderator. So please stop your attempts at moderating this thread.


Now let's just carry on with the topic in a calm and respectful way.
 
11 years?Puuuhahahahha.Anyway I am just laughing..11 years,huh?Studying World War II?Cool isn't it?:cool:

Don't you understand me,you freak?We are the children of Ottoman Empire which ruled the world for 600 years.And you are saying to me that you have spent over 11 years studying World War II.Do you think that you can have something to explain about World War II or history?Oo oo,I don't think so_Ok ok so be it.You know well..:thefinger
Freak? :1orglaugh

*tsk tsk* Is that the best you can do? Hurl insults when you are stumped?

When you are done behaving like a petulant child and have something to offer other than insults, I'll respond.

Untill then I'm not going to waste anymore of my precious time on you.

cheers,
 

georges

Moderator
Staff member
I laready knew that this kurtadam was a dolt. It is because of such people like him that none wants Turkey in Europe. Oh and let's not forget that there will be always people like kurtadam trying to cause troubles.
 

member006

Closed Account
And you MuchachaLove,can you please not meddle?It is being my job to warn users,until moderators (I think this site has no admin) doing their job. ;)

and I get a new account again my friend!
my ban will be lifted.

or I'm gonna do what I said.

kurtadam

Where did the broken English go? So how many Turkish people say I'm gonna and Muchacha? *shakes head*

Hope you don't think that all are unaware?

LL
 
This was a good, interesting thread with plenty of discussion & disagreements - but this guy, i've never seen anything like it - to be honest the he sounds a bit deranged or perhaps on drugs or something :1orglaugh , and not nice ones either

i won't curse or call him names though, don't wan't to go down to his level

and the use of that winking smilie, the threats, the "cunning" use of an alias

but perhaps the funniest ( or saddest ) thing is the distorted view of history. No disrepect to any Swedish or French friends on here but i loved, to quote,

"But in Sweden and France,both of them are so-called the cradle of the civilization"

are they ?
both great countries but i thought maybe Africa, Mesopotamia, Egypt, China, India, Greece, Rome and maybe a couple of other places had a better shout of being the "cradle of civilization"
 
First of all i need to say that i'm from Türkiye(turkey) and i read all you wrote here.But i saw that u only think think think and think.Sometimes our realities are not true.Now let me tell you my realities... :)

Armenian Emigration
Lets talk about Armenian event.it is not a genocide and because of this i said event.If you really know Anatolian history you can talk with me Roughneck,because i search the history of my country very well.
In 1914-1918 everybody knows there was a war. But you only know this.in the earlier time of this war Russia tried to enter Erzurum,Sivas,Kars(all of these are turkish names of the cities in east anatolia).but they cant do it alone.They try to use armenians in this region.And when ottoman empire understand this,they forced armenians to emigration to syria and south Anatolia(14 may 1915-i gave a time but armenians cant give us a time about their lies).And when armenians started to emigration,they tried to make genocide in erzurum,sivas,kars and some of other cities in east Anatolia.There is no GENOCIDE about armenians.it was an emigration,and if there is a genocide in anatolia it was done by armenians to muslim people in the cities that i count before(Erzurum,Kars,Van).But after 1980's armenian lobbies in west countries started to their action.they hide after 3 books that they have only lies about this event.these books have only some recollections about armenian people.but if we talk about recollections i invite you to search about Hjalmar Pravitz and his recollections from anatolia in 1915.One important thing again,we opened all our ottoman archive about armenians but armenians cant.because if they try to work on real documents,their claims become false ideas.
One thing more about genocides,France did genocide in algeria,American indians are victims of genocides,Mayans too...but why you only talk about Türkiye?;)

About EU and Democracy in Türkiye
lets talk about democracy in Türkiye.But firstly you must interrogate yourself about democracy.In my country some of the writers(for ex: Orhan Pamuk) can say there is a genocide about armenians,or some of other writers can say there isnt.But in France and some other countries,if one person says "there is no genocide about armenians",they goes to jail or have a payment about their words(for example Doğu Perinçek).
europeans always say that our motherlaw has a subject called 301 and this is against the democracy.But in our justice system,this subject prevents the ATTACKS to our goverment and justice.It says you can criticise all of the things but if you overstep the limits,you ll be punished.But all the europe politicians thinks this is a nondemocratic subject.
One thing more.always europe promised if u do this u can enter to EU.if u accept this u can have the advantages of the EU.but you never think that if turkish people become tired to listen promises and if they dont want to enter EU?what ll u do after this?
You only talk talk talk.But if you see the realities you change the subject and again talk talk talk.Türkiye has the 3. best army in the world,we have a very important place in the world between Middle-East,Balkans and the Caucasus and if you lose us,both of us have the same damage.
I dont want to talk about kurdish events,because last 20 years you tried to damage us with armenians problems,and now again you try to the same thing with our kurdish brothers.Do you know this?=in 400 years(in ottoman empire control) there wasnt a big problem in middle east.
"It was caused by our tolerance and respect to humans."
Islam and Şeriat is not the same things(şeriat is an administration type that saudi arabia and iran uses now.).In Türkiye %80 of the people are muslims.Islam is in our country,not şeriat.My country administrated by Democracy and Kemalist laws.If you try to understand Mustafa Kemal Atatürk you can understand we are democratic or radical people.;)

Cyprus Problem:
This is the problem that everybody know,but dont accept.Greeks never like Türkiye,Turkish people never like Greece because of 1. world war,sevr and aegean sea problems.Lets talk about the problem in cyprus,in 1960's greeks in cyprus started to make a genocide in cyprus against turkish people.they did these things to make Megali Idea real.But they dont know that they cant do it anytime in this world.If you want to know this problem(really want to know this) you must search it.Türkiye waited waited waited until 1974 and than we need to make intervention.After we did this,we try to solve this problem so many times.But Europe always try to protect greeks(as you did it before-especially after 1. world war.).I think you and greek people cant talk about cyprus because we said yes to Annan's plan but Greeks dont want to solve this problem. ;)

I tried to tell myself but sorry for my bad english,i hope u understand what i try to say.Take care my european friends. :wave2:
 

Philbert

Banned
We are familiar with forced migrations...the Germans, Poles, and several Eastern Countries had a forced migration of thousands of Jewish, Roman Catholic, etc., families during WWII and before. Those dangerous hordes were loaded into cattlecars and hundreds of babies, elderly, and general people died of exposure, starvation, and disease...very similar to the Armenian migration in results.
The knowledge isn't hard to document; Turkey has a long history of single thought politics, not just since Kemal.
Turkey was an Axis partner during the WWII conflict, and yes, I have spent some time in Turkey and around the Aegean. Izmir, Istanbul, Marmaras, and points East all the way to Iran.
Fine...keep out of the EU. Like Turkey has what it takes to be a stable country...
I remember clearly how the train cars were swapped at the Greek border, 'cause Turkish quality levels weren't up to European standards.
Most of the young girl rescues I had to do in Europe were from out of control Turkish men on trains, etc...
I met good Turkish people, don't get the wrong impression; but Turkey has a lot of ancient trash to work out (or not) and is NOT up to many EU levels.
I won't even go into the recent events contrasting secular Turkey and Islam.
 
Ahh, the tired and true ********** method of instead of talking about the issue at hand and how bad something else is, you try to divert the attention away from it by talking about something else and then comparing it to it even when it's not the issue at hand. There is also another ********** tactic. Comparing similar situations in both sides of the argument but making them seem like both sides have as big of a problem with them. For instance where you try to compare an extremely small and shunned portion of American violent religious extremist to the vast numbers of Islamic terrorist and the huge amount of people that support them. Then you will try to convince everybody about how were the same.

Not that I'm surprised, you always do have a double standard with the U.S. and the rest of the world. I've seen you try to defend China and North Korea, but bash the U.S. every opportunity you get.

No matter what somebody else does, it doesn't make what the other person does any better.

Country B:
You're not allowed to insult the founder of the country or speak of revolution, but you get a vote, and every other citizen gets a vote, and if the majorityof you vote for someone, they become your leader, and then they can change the laws and mold the country around what the people want.

See this doesn't make sense. If most of Turkey was how you say there were and it was a democracy wouldn't imposing forced secularism on them be against your views on democracy. In fact I think there have been stories lately where they are starting to have a problem with that because the people in charge are very religiously connected. So none of your descriptions fit. In fact the "democracy" you say you like about them, conflicts with the "secularism" you say you like about them. So which one do you really like and which part of about it didn't you have a clue as to what you’re talking about.

In any case I don't compromise on things that are mine. I better have ALL my nature given rights. I demand both freedom of speech and the right to vote. They are both equally important. I will complain about ANYBODY I feel doesn't respect them. In any case your comparison to the election system we have is pretty weak, probably because the arguments you always form are not that well thought out either. If you ever thought about things on a logical level and not just an emotional one you would probably have to realize that the people in the USA that argue against things like this are right. Most Americans realize that we have respective democracy and aren't arguing for pure democracy (even thought they might say just the word "democracy"). Of course you probably already knew that. In any case any non-insane person would find comparing the freedoms to the U.S and most European countries to the places you always feel the need to defend laughable.
 

member006

Closed Account
My posts to that guy are none of your concern Fox and you are 21 days late anyway. Why don't you talk of the issue and not pick apart every ones post that are almost a month old?

LL
 

member006

Closed Account
Cause it's a free speech world just like you want Ladylove and I'm free to pick apart the Turkey issue. But policing of the board is much appreciated because the mods are busy sometimes, so thanks anyway. Next time there is a mod position available I will nominate you perhaps. Perhaps we could pass a national law against picking apart posts, responding to 21 day old posts, if you don't think my posts above are about this issue, then you didn't read them properly, they are very very much about this issue. Why don't you respond to my thoughts on Turkey and freedom of speech/democracy, both of which were talked about in your opening post, you seem well-versed on the topic? :)

Sorry I'm late. Found the thread on the front page so pretty current really. I was travelling in Europe for the last 21 days. Travelling, it's really cool. You get to know a lot about places by actually going there. :1orglaugh

You know I only meant my post and his "dialect" issue could have been past over. Has nothing to do with the issue, I never said you couldn't post at all, I said quoting and attacking my little off topic thing wasn't necessary. Thanks for the character attack though and all the witty sarcasm. :thumbsup: Makes a better read anyway. I'm done.

LL
 

Philbert

Banned
Well. I was gonna say welcome back, but maybe you can take your "dirty ass" analogies and return to Turkey.
Or maybe go amuse the people at Oxford with your twisted debating techniques...I am sure they had to struggle to be polite to you while you were pontificating the same tired twisted crap you weave here.
I defend the assaulted wherever I find them, standard response...but Turks were so often hard pressed to keep their hands to themselves around Eurobabes that I was often asked for help being a mean Texas dude, when a few girls were being groped by 3 or 4 Turkish men riding home to Turkey, drinking and getting wild 'cause they were going back to a more restricted place.
Yeah...Turkey is poorer than Greece...a pretty poor place in it's own right, most Greeks aren't rolling in cash, but were often reading, smiling , and acting pretty well mannered where I was.
Turkey was quite a struggle, being a little more third world, less governed, and more prone to nail someone to drain them of cash...like fake arrests, etc.
Sorta like Mexico, but that's another story...
I was there during hard winter, and Spring, and Summer...and even during a small civil insurrection...jeeps with soldiers and guns driving around scowling and not looking too friendly.
Turkey has killed, tortured, and invaded many times in it's near history, and ask a few Kurds how sweet they are...you always try to insinuate the USA is a mass group of terror mongers just itching to go liberate someone to kill the population for money (we are sooo poor here, gotta keep invading for more cash!) and only the misunderstood Islamic fachistas are actually doing the good thing...sexist religious bigotry aside, I mean.
I was hoping you might have stopped over in Iran for a few months; but just LL's luck, you're back with the usual good manners and consideration we know and love (loathe?) you for.

D-rock...I for one felt your post was...hmmm...well written and to the point.
Good effort, and thanks for the donation to the thread.
Whatever...now we should get some more Turks coming in with requests for the smart American to post some more...and where can we get Porn stars to come to Turkey?:rofl:
 
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