To all you conservatives : Sam, Will, meester, heartbroker, etc...

[Fatfishblu]

Yes, I am voting for Romney/Ryan because they will uphold the Bush tax cuts and I will not have my money stolen from me. I believe Romney will appeal Obamacare and better yet, read the motherfucking document and implement a better healthcare option for the American people; one that adheres to the Constitution and one that the American People have had a chance to read/review, not just get rammed down our throats. Why would a President pass a healthcare objective without consulting any physicians? Just because you're a lawyer doesn't mean you know anything about Medicine and how things work in the trenches. I quote myself, "Fuck him and Fuck You for voting for him!"

 

[xfire]

Yes, I am voting for Romney/Ryan because they will uphold the Bush tax cuts and I will not have my money stolen from me. I believe Romney will appeal Obamacare and better yet, read the motherfucking document and implement a better healthcare option for the American people; one that adheres to the Constitution and one that the American People have had a chance to read/review, not just get rammed down our throats. Why would a President pass a healthcare objective without consulting any physicians? Just because you're a lawyer doesn't mean you know anything about Medicine and how things work in the trenches. I quote myself, "Fuck him and Fuck You for voting for him!"

For an educated sumbitch you sure don't know how to use words.

 

[Fatfishblu]

I blame Bush for that mistype.

 

[meesterperfect]

You mean, there will be more assholes who don't have a clue about the meaning of being poor, about what it is like to live with minimum wage, to be forced to choose between getting your son to the doctor or buying food or the family, to take pills to ease your wrist pain because you can't afford not to work even if the doctor told you that you have to rest if you want to heal, more of this kind of assholes blaming on the government to care about those in need and blaming them 'cause they are to lazy to get a job ?
Many of them do have a job, sometimes even two. But theses jobs have so low salaries that themoney these people earned is not enough for them to take care of their families.

The guy is right about one thing : people are being ensalved. But not by the government. By the econmy, by Wall Street, by companies making more and more money but firing more and more people, by banks and asset management companies.
Morgan Stanley, JP Morgan, Barclay's, Goldman Sachs, Allianz, HSBC, ING, Deutsche Bank, etc... these are the names of some of those which are enslaving people.

When Biden said that Romney's gonna put americans "back in chains", he was wrong. They (as for 80% of the world's population) are already in chains. What Romney will jut tighten the chains and allow the masters to whip the slaves

johan you are just flat out wrong.
you don't live here. you don't see just how many people abuse the system.
its people who are working everyday that are getting screwed.

 

[xfire]

johan you are just flat out wrong.
you don't live here. you don't see just how many people abuse the system.
its people who are working everyday that are getting screwed.

What abuses are you referring to, and what percentage of the budget are those abuses?

 

[Rattrap]

For an educated sumbitch you sure don't know how to use words.

I must say, jumping on the odd typo doesn't make a very good point. That said...

I quote myself, "Fuck [Obama] and Fuck You for voting for him!"

You have repeatedly shown yourself to be a partisan hack, and with this an un-American one to boot. You don't do Republicans any favors in credibility when you post.

I'm hardly in the 'conservative' group, nor am I voting for Romney, so my answer to this question isn't really an answer to the question: but I will say I'm not voting for Obama either because of two reasons: the electoral college determines my vote for me by residence (Oregon is solidly blue - nobody even bothers campaigning here), but also because while there are differences, I think either main party will continue the slow decline of the USA. This I don't mind so much as every super power inevitably declines - there's this weird idea and policy that growth must always always always be positive, which of course is physically impossible over time - what I worry about is how much of the rest of the world it tries to pull down with it.

 

[xfire]

I must say, jumping on the odd typo doesn't make a very good point. That said...

I wholeheartedly agree, however, he's the one that's made his "doctoral education" an issue, so I figure an exception was warranted.

 

[bobjustbob]

I won't blame Obama for the financial mess we are in. But I do think that he has no better plan today to get us out of this then he had 4 years ago. The collapse wasn't on his watch but it was happening while he was campaigning. Recession was only going to get deeper but that was not his top priority. What we got was a health plan bill that many people are not too crazy about. Just like Romney not giving details about what he will do, it was all hope and change for the economy but nothing being planned to deliver it. I still don't see a plan from Obama about getting jobs back or reducing our cost of living. Yea, he has provided pleanty of relief for those that need it. But the economy is not being stimulated. These people want to get off the dole but nothing is in motion to do that. Whatever plan he had isn't working. I'll try Mitt because Obama can't run on his record.

 

[Fatfishblu]

If Obama is re-elected, the recession will definitely deepen:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/49387601

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ceo-wynn-i-m-afraid-president

This is just one man with one empire, but the future is being foretold.

One more thing about Obamacare before I go, starting in 2013 there will be a mandated tax on all healthcare procedures. This tax will not be covered by the hospital or health insurance companies. It will have to be paid by the patient. So, if you go to the emergency room with a sprained ankle and get charged $2500 for services, you will be accountable for paying the tax on services rendered, even if your deductible is met and your insurance covers the bill 100%. Still want to vote for Obama?

 

[Will E Worm]

"Power of prayer"? Seriously?

:angels:

The constitution as YOU see it. Which I might say tends to be very self serving.

:nono: As it is written.

i am a post-neo progressive moderate socio-economic conservative with a dash of libertarianism just for good measure.

Johan, I don't know what the hell romney is gonna do. most All politicians don't come through with their promises.
If he repeals Obummercare that's good enough for me.

Understand, I have learned all i could about obama since i first realized he may have a shot at PREZ back in 07, and I don't like any of it.
That combined with what he's said and done since he became PREZ and I have grown to actually fear him........that's way beyond dislike.

So I would rather have a dead dog in office than him.

Just go by the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence, Magna Carta and you will do fine.

They both define (and limit) the powers of the state. They leave ultimate power to the people. :clap:

 

[Mayhem]

johan you are just flat out wrong.
you don't live here. you don't see just how many people abuse the system.
its people who are working everyday that are getting screwed.

I do live here and Johan hit the nail right on the head.

 

[bobjustbob]

If Obama is re-elected, the recession will definitely deepen:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/49387601

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ceo-wynn-i-m-afraid-president

This is just one man with one empire, but the future is being foretold.

One more thing about Obamacare before I go, starting in 2013 there will be a mandated tax on all healthcare procedures. This tax will not be covered by the hospital or health insurance companies. It will have to be paid by the patient. So, if you go to the emergency room with a sprained ankle and get charged $2500 for services, you will be accountable for paying the tax on services rendered, even if your deductible is met and your insurance covers the bill 100%. Still want to vote for Obama?

Once upon a time we had family doctors. If you got a sprained ankle we would call them on the phone. Either they had you come into the office or had someone else take care of you. Pay a few bucks extra for a house call. Done deal. Somehow we got into this thing that we select a primary doctor who sends us to a specialist or to the emergency room. This was supposes to be better medical care. $2500 spread across layers of medical professionals for something a doctor would charge $150 on his own. Insurance got you back your money. Emergency rooms were for emergency care. Not the first stop to go when you don't feel well.

 

[Johan]

http://www.cnbc.com/id/49387601

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ceo-wynn-i-m-afraid-president

Steven Wynn is affraid. He's affraid 'cause, if Obama wins the election, billionaaires like Wynn won't have a tax cut, they will have to pay the faire share of taxes.

 

[bobjustbob]

I hear about paying a fair share all of the time. For the most part what people are really saying is that I should pay less and everyone should pay more. Let's break it down to percentages. Where do we fix the brackets? Seperate it for corporate and personal income.

 

[meesterperfect]

I do live here and Johan hit the nail right on the head.

I figured you would.
Is obama gonna get you a phone?

 

[darkwarrior3007]

Now, Mr. Mittens does have a record and experience as MA gov. and as a businessman. You guys on the left may not like it but at least he had some. What was Obummer's record to begin with? What experience did he bring into his current job? :dunno:

You mean like that fact that Obama was a US Senator for 3 years and a Member of the Illinois Senate for 7 years before that. If you actually cared to look, you would have seen that.

 

[Sam Fisher]

I had never heard of the sonofabitch prior to his 2008 presidential campaign.

 

[darkwarrior3007]

I had never heard of the sonofabitch prior to his 2008 presidential campaign.

So! I've never heard of Mitt Romney before 2008. What's your point?

 

[Johan]

So! I've never heard of Mitt Romney before 2008. What's your point?

To him, Obamais the one and only responsible of the downfal of the country and it all started in 2008, when Obama started to become popular.

 

[Sam Fisher]