The U.S. Soccer team SHOCKS THE WORLD!
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tartanterrier
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Yesterday Spain played bad, but normally we are goods in soccer. We won the Eurocope the last year against importants teams such as Germany, Italy and others...
I know.I think they thought they were getting it easy and they simply under-estimated
on how prepared the US were.
Maybe next year Spain will be a better team with it being a more important competition.
But that's the thing with the World Cup - You just never know
I know.I think they thought they were getting it easy and they simply under-estimated
on how prepared the US were.
Maybe next year Spain will be a better team with it being a more important competition.
But that's the thing with the World Cup - You just never know
Yeah :1orglaugh
In Spain we adore our team and this loss helps us for open our eyes. I don´t like soccer very much but I see the importants cups: world, europe... Yesterda US team surprised playing so well.
Now you have to win the cup... hehe
See ya
Oito
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Wow, someone's sensitive.
Sorry, but you've had a lot of luck. Of course you put up a fight and shot two good goals. It would have been pretty embarrassing if you hadn't been able to capitalize on the bad day the Spanish had.
The red card was legit. There's no arguing that. It's what we call "Tätlichkeit", which means he wasn't going after the ball, he was going after the player. He was clipping him and was on top of that taking the "advantage". End of discussion. Just because he plays for America, doesn't mean the rules don't apply. Same thing goes for the much discussed red card in the game against Italy. Clark was sliding into the other one's sprint from the side, kicking his knee, no intention to play the ball.
Watch it again my friend:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbteeRuMFBE
The Spanish player flicks the ball at the last second but Bradley was on pace to make a very nice tackle, it was nice touch by the Spanish player but this happens in every serious (international, EPL, Etc) match I have ever watched and more then 50% of the time there is not even a call
The red card was deserved, the US player went sliding into a tackle with his studs showing, took the player out and didn't touch the ball, in any referees mind its a deserved red card. The fouled player was lucky not to get hurt seeing as though studs are made of either metal or plastic.
Oito
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Studs were down, watch the video.... Man people just like to hear themselves talk or something
You gotta refer to personal attacks when not hearing what you want to hear? Look at the footage you yourself posted. Studs are showing very clearly. I don't know how someone can even show the evidence himself and still say it was different.
A yellow card may have also been sufficient, but the red card was still legit. Accept the rules and play by them. And stop hating on others for their differing opinions. I've seen much worse decisions by referees.
Hey, BlueBalls, you gotta talk. If the other European soccer leagues would play like they play in the Premiere League, in every game half the players would be sitting on the bench via red or yellow cards after the first half already.
The U.S. red against Italy by Ricardo Clark was harsh not because it was late but because the foul didn't prevent a scoring oppty. The Italian player--Gattuso, the Thug of Italy- wasn't even facing the goal. He was running to posses the ball. Gattuso flopped on the ground, like a fish, and then popped up 20 seconds later. It was a late, yellow card worthy challenge. I don't think the US had even earned a yellow at that point in the match. I'll have to doublecheck that.
The Red earned by Michael Bradley was a joke. It's physically impossible for a player to begin to slide tackle without showing studs. He went for the ball, missed, made contact with the guy but the Spaniard didn't even flop on the ground like a fish. He didn't even get taken out? C'mon. Again, a yellow at worst. A free kick most likely.
I watched Brazil today and, what a shock, they earned their first yellow of the competition today? Wtf? Brazil could've earned 6 Yellows today easily against South Africa...
The Red earned by Michael Bradley was a joke. It's physically impossible for a player to begin to slide tackle without showing studs. He went for the ball, missed, made contact with the guy but the Spaniard didn't even flop on the ground like a fish. He didn't even get taken out? C'mon. Again, a yellow at worst. A free kick most likely.
I watched Brazil today and, what a shock, they earned their first yellow of the competition today? Wtf? Brazil could've earned 6 Yellows today easily against South Africa...
Oito
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Well, these are facts:
- There have now been 13 Confed. Cup games
- There have been 4 red cards issued (all were straight reds - no previous yellow)
- Of those 4, 3 were for "dangerous, reckless, and late tackles," while the 4th was for an intentional hand ball in the box by a defender
- Of the 3 for "dangerous, reckless, and late tackles," ALL THREE have been given to the USA ... AND, ALL have been straight reds.
- All four times a red card's been issued in this tournament, the offended team was one inside the top 5.
From that, 1 or more of the following HAVE to also be a fact:
1) NONE of the other 7 teams in their 22 total team games have committed a single "dangerous, reckless, and late tackle,"
2) The US squad is playing far more aggressively and dangerously in their tackling than any of the other teams,
3) The referees were given a mandate to crack down on "bad" tackles since this is supposed to be a preview of the '10 World Cup (including the officiating); however, the refs just don't want to take the heat for a red card against, say Spain, Italy, Brazil, or South Africa (the hosts), while, comparatively, they won't get anywhere near the scrutiny for giving a red to the US, and/or
4) The US has had between 1-3 reds that should have been yellow (if booked at all)
When you look at the recent red, it was Bradley's only foul that game. Sometimes it's not how many times you foul, how you foul, or when or where you foul, it's WHO you foul. Perhaps FIFA is making an effort to keep lesser players from hurting the big money guys, sending a message for WC 2010. Bradley tackled Xavi very hard, Clark kicked Gattuso late, the other "victim" was Brazil's Ramires. These guys all make over $10 million a year. The salary for the 3 US players probably isn't even $10 million combined for their career earnings. The message here is; stay away from the big boys. Compare it to 15 yard roughing the passer penalties and suspensions in the NFL for touching a QB. These cards are more about sending a message to CONCACAF, African, and Asian teams : stay away from the top European club players next summer. Some of the group games in the WC can get ugly; no club in Europe wants to lose a $10 million player for a year because a 2nd tier Belgian league player breaks his leg in the 2nd half of a 3-0 game. I don't necessarily agree, but the US needs to adjust and accept the fact this will be the same type of officiating they'll see Sunday and next summer.
- There have now been 13 Confed. Cup games
- There have been 4 red cards issued (all were straight reds - no previous yellow)
- Of those 4, 3 were for "dangerous, reckless, and late tackles," while the 4th was for an intentional hand ball in the box by a defender
- Of the 3 for "dangerous, reckless, and late tackles," ALL THREE have been given to the USA ... AND, ALL have been straight reds.
- All four times a red card's been issued in this tournament, the offended team was one inside the top 5.
From that, 1 or more of the following HAVE to also be a fact:
1) NONE of the other 7 teams in their 22 total team games have committed a single "dangerous, reckless, and late tackle,"
2) The US squad is playing far more aggressively and dangerously in their tackling than any of the other teams,
3) The referees were given a mandate to crack down on "bad" tackles since this is supposed to be a preview of the '10 World Cup (including the officiating); however, the refs just don't want to take the heat for a red card against, say Spain, Italy, Brazil, or South Africa (the hosts), while, comparatively, they won't get anywhere near the scrutiny for giving a red to the US, and/or
4) The US has had between 1-3 reds that should have been yellow (if booked at all)
When you look at the recent red, it was Bradley's only foul that game. Sometimes it's not how many times you foul, how you foul, or when or where you foul, it's WHO you foul. Perhaps FIFA is making an effort to keep lesser players from hurting the big money guys, sending a message for WC 2010. Bradley tackled Xavi very hard, Clark kicked Gattuso late, the other "victim" was Brazil's Ramires. These guys all make over $10 million a year. The salary for the 3 US players probably isn't even $10 million combined for their career earnings. The message here is; stay away from the big boys. Compare it to 15 yard roughing the passer penalties and suspensions in the NFL for touching a QB. These cards are more about sending a message to CONCACAF, African, and Asian teams : stay away from the top European club players next summer. Some of the group games in the WC can get ugly; no club in Europe wants to lose a $10 million player for a year because a 2nd tier Belgian league player breaks his leg in the 2nd half of a 3-0 game. I don't necessarily agree, but the US needs to adjust and accept the fact this will be the same type of officiating they'll see Sunday and next summer.
Well, you are telling me nothing new here. You're just elaborately explaining one side of the "why" and "how" of different interpretations of the rules by the refs.
Honestly, you're just complaining because for once the US is on the receiving end here. If it were the other way around and any European would be stating his opinion, we Europeans would all be cry babies in your book (as we allegedly have been so many times before). Welcome to a world where you are not "Number One".
Honestly, you're just complaining because for once the US is on the receiving end here. If it were the other way around and any European would be stating his opinion, we Europeans would all be cry babies in your book (as we allegedly have been so many times before). Welcome to a world where you are not "Number One".
BioDefenseGrad
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Hi!
I am from Spain.... .... .... .... ¬¬
But I have to say: well done USA.
I am sad for the loss of the soccer team from my country (35 consecutives wins
My sincere congratulations and now for Brazil hehe
((at least Spain for the 3 place :1orglaugh ))
see ya
I guess you'll just have to get back to building it up again. Spanish Soccer remains a monster, no? Who knows, we might end up getting knocked out first round by Spain in the World Cup.
The 2006 WC game against Italy, when the Italians went into THUG mode and played dirty for the win taught us it doesn't matter. They "big boys" always come out on top in cards, fouls, etc....:dunno:
Why is Italy afraid to play the U.S. straight up? That's what I'd like to know....
That game was fucking amazing not only did we beat them by a comfortable amount we shut them down.
The Confed Cup is useless. A Tornament made up of Friendly Games. No one needs this, it's just more Money for FIFA...
The U.S.Team did well in beating Spain, but in a real Tournament I would still bet my Money on Spain. They have a great Team.
I also think South Africa played well against Brazil yesterday. A pity they didn't win...
The U.S.Team did well in beating Spain, but in a real Tournament I would still bet my Money on Spain. They have a great Team.
I also think South Africa played well against Brazil yesterday. A pity they didn't win...
UNITED STATES 2
Spain 0 :eek:
Maybe Soccer IS going to IGNITE:flame: in the U.S.!
Bring on Brazil for the Confed Cup Final:thefinger
Doubt it....but hell, I hope I am wrong....I've been looking for a new sport to follow.
*Time for a "Day Before" bump*
It is the U.S. v Brazil. Can the U.S. shock the world twice in a row! Today's Wall St Journal had a decent article on National Soccer Powers and used info from some London research group to calculate that the U.S. has a 23% chance to beat Brazil tomorrow...
:thefinger: U.S. 2 Brazil 1 :thefinger:
It is the U.S. v Brazil. Can the U.S. shock the world twice in a row! Today's Wall St Journal had a decent article on National Soccer Powers and used info from some London research group to calculate that the U.S. has a 23% chance to beat Brazil tomorrow...
:thefinger: U.S. 2 Brazil 1 :thefinger:
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