>>>The Republican Party Is The Problem

Luxman

#TRE45ON
After the mid-terms, Biden should retire and make Kamala Harris President, and AOC vice-president.
Republicans would have extreme conniption fits and they would buy every gun and ammo they can find.

 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
After the mid-terms, Biden should retire and make Kamala Harris President, and AOC vice-president.
Republicans would have extreme conniption fits that they would buy every gun and ammo they can find.
My memory is short. I don’t recall any Senators going apeshit on Amy Cohen Barrett like they have this nominee.

The Republicans would have been better served to change their messengers.
 
Maybe Kamala would be the one to make Republicans lose their mind. They don’t seem to like black women.

I assume that is the feeble excuse the Dems would use for losing if they were dumb enough to back Kamala Harris for President. Putting all your chips on a race/misogyny card shaming people into cooperating is not a wise strategy.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
I assume that is the feeble excuse the Dems would use for losing if they were dumb enough to back Kamala Harris for President. Putting all your chips on a race/misogyny card shaming people into cooperating is not a wise strategy.
You are correct. Putting all your chips on being misogynistic and racist does appear to be wise strategy though.

Funny how that works actually.
 
You are correct. Putting all your chips on being misogynistic and racist does appear to be wise strategy though.

Funny how that works actually.

I said, "Putting all your chips on a race/misogyny card shaming people into cooperating is not a wise strategy".

Trump and the Republicans are weak. Why snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory? Run a decent candidate that doesn't require marionetting the public onto your plantation into voting for him/her.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
I said, "Putting all your chips on a race/misogyny card shaming people into cooperating is not a wise strategy".

Trump and the Republicans are weak. Why snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory? Run a decent candidate that doesn't require marionetting the public onto your plantation into voting for him/her.
I understood your meaning. I think. 🤔

Playing cards and shaming people is not a good strategy. Just being outright racist (using the right code words of course) does seem to work. Critical race theory is a non-issue, but certain politicians get a lot of mileage by bringing it up.
 
Gmase, to be honest, I couldn't tell you what Critical Race Theory is. Is it a non-biased discussion of race that gives some sort of open platform for all races to discuss past grievances equally or is it intended more to present one side of view? I couldn't tell you. If it is racially divisive I would imagine all decent people would be against it.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
I see your point too. “Law and Order” is definitely coded language.
Just ask George Wallace: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/from-wallace-to-trump-the-evolution-of-law-and-order/

Gmase, to be honest, I couldn't tell you what Critical Race Theory is. Is it a non-biased discussion of race that gives some sort of open platform for all races to discuss past grievances equally or is it intended more to present one side of view? I couldn't tell you. If it is racially divisive I would imagine all decent people would be against it.
Me neither and my daughter's taken a couple stabs at explaining it to me.

This is interesting:
https://www.edweek.org/leadership/what-is-critical-race-theory-and-why-is-it-under-attack/2021/05
Critical race theory is an academic concept that is more than 40 years old. The core idea is that race is a social construct, and that racism is not merely the product of individual bias or prejudice, but also something embedded in legal systems and policies.
 
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I read the CRT article. The whole thing. No matter how carefully worded the description is I would bet money in the application stage, especially in public schools, there will be good guys and bad guys determined by race. Forced Busing didn’t unite the Black and White kids out here. It divided us further and I got subtracted being thrown out of the 10th grade for organizing my own posse.
 
Law and Order are a different thing. I think it's wrong to blatantly scapegoat a race for criminality. I do believe it is fair to discuss crime, present crimes, along with evidence and video proving the crime and who the criminal is.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
You raise interesting points and answers seem elusive. Busing did not work for you. Not busing did not work for others.

The evolution of law and order is interesting. Think Bill and Hillary’s grand evolution. Both seems to have run away from their mid-90s positions.
 

Lawsuit seeks to block 'insurrectionist' Marjorie Taylor Greene from reelection bid​



A group of Georgia voters on Thursday asked state officials to block Republican U.S. Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene from running for reelection, alleging she is unfit for office because of her support of rioters who attacked the U.S. Capitol.

In a legal challenge filed with the Georgia Secretary of State, the voters claim Greene has violated a provision of the U.S. Constitution known as the "Insurrectionist Disqualification Clause."
The clause, passed after the 19th-century U.S. Civil War, prohibits politicians from running for Congress if they have engaged in "insurrection or rebellion" against the United States, or "given aid or comfort" to the nation's enemies.


The Georgia voters are represented by Free Speech For People, a Texas-based advocacy group that brought a similar challenge to Republican congressman Madison Cawthorn's qualifications for office.
A federal judge dismissed the Cawthorn case on March 4, but Free Speech for People has urged North Carolina officials to appeal that ruling, and has filed its own emergency appeal.

Greene said in a statement that she opposes all forms of political violence.
"I’ve never encouraged political violence and never will," she said.

Greene has downplayed and justified the Jan. 6, 2021 attack, in which supporters of Donald Trump stormed the Capitol, battling with police and sending lawmakers running for their lives after a fiery speech by Trump near the White House repeated his false claims that his election defeat was the result of widespread fraud.
"Jan. 6 was just a riot at the Capitol and if you think about what our Declaration of Independence says, it says to overthrow tyrants," Greene said during a radio program in October.

The legal challenge will be heard by an administrative law judge. Greene could also ask a federal judge to step in and block the challenge.
"After taking the oath to defend and protect the Constitution, before, on, and after Jan. 6, 2021, Greene voluntarily aided and engaged in an insurrection to obstruct the peaceful transfer of presidential power," the lawsuit states.

Some legal experts have expressed skepticism of Free Speech for People’s arguments
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Derek Muller, a law professor at the University of Iowa, said it would be unconstitutional for Georgia election officials to take Greene off the ballot. The Constitution does not give states the power to assess a congressional candidate’s eligibility for office, reserving that power for Congress, he said.
"Georgia has no jurisdiction to assess a congressional candidate’s eligibility today," Muller said in an email. "Even if Ms. Greene were an insurrectionist, Congress has the authority to lift that bar, which it could do at any time before she presents her credentials to Congress next year if she were reelected."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/la...orie-taylor-greene-reelection-bid-2022-03-24/


The prospect of getting rid of MTG may sound good, but it could set a dangerous precedent. Think about what the Republicans might do with it. We're talking about countless lawsuits against any Democratic candidate, just for the sake of it, or for having the words "unfit" and "lawsuit" right next to the name of said candidates...
MTG is not a threat to democrats. Even among Republicans she's considered to be a wacko. That's one less congress seat occupied by a Republican that would get something done.
I would even say she's usefull to democrats : she's a scarecrow
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.

Luxman

#TRE45ON

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Yes, they are.
 

Luxman

#TRE45ON
From the article above, my understanding of the allegations is that Hunter Biden took bribes in the form of paid consultation positions on the boards of foreign-owned companies with the intent of using his father Joe Biden to secure American government contracts for those companies, which didn't pan out and the contracts weren't actually given to those foreign companies. I don't understand the part about money laundering.
Every politician in the world takes bribes disguised in many forms to influence government policies.
Trump not only took bribes for favors, he gave classified government intel to Putin and the Russian and American mafias, and to his business cronies.

Explain to us what Hunter Biden did and is it treason or a national security risk?
 

Supafly

Retired Mod
Bronze Member
We can go into a big round of Whataboutism, which may have the plus side to put things in perspective. In this case, compare the Trump family members, as they took advantadge of their fathers business and especially his position as the President and all that went with it, and the things Biden, junior got. Which might be something he actually worked for himself.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...na-trademarks-day-us-president-met-xi-jinping

So did Biden put his son in law on a paid insider position in the White House administration? No. Trump did, and he went as far as overruling better judgement of the officials and made them give both Jared AND Ivanka (Whom he gave a nonsensical job in the admin, too) full secvurity clearences.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...ret-security-clearance-were-overruled-n962221

Both parties are heavily compromised, and you US of A citizens have to clear house heavily, which does NOT physically assault any actual house, for the agency people who might read this, but in comparison, the Republican party has become so much of a corrupt cesspool, this is almost a joke.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Him specifically no, but Clinton, Obama, many of them. The difference between the 2, is the amount of sneakiness involved. I'm just saying, you portray trump as the ONLY treasonous bastard their is, and he's not even in the top 10.....although the top spot does belong to a republican. Like I said, if everyone would stop bringing him up, he would eventually go away.

Like I said, I don't really like any of them, but you keep posting about trump. For what? All he is, is a loud mouth at this point. Now, is when you should be babysitting the new shitbags, to make sure they don't get any worse. As far as the acts of treason committed by democrats, I'm not digging thru the dirt, they're all guilty of something. I guess what pisses me off though, is everyone is ready to hang trump, but no one ever thought to do it to the last half a dozen shitbags, running free. I never said trump WASN'T guilty of anything, I just said they all are. And as I said before, I'm not sure if you are a registered voter in America, or living here at all, and the only reason I mention this is, because if you don't live here, you might not be seeing certain things first hand, if that makes sense. When you see day to day shit going on, a lot of small things, that aren't internationally news worthy, might be enough to cause a person to draw different conclusions, to certain everyday life situations, that make up the big picture.
 

Supafly

Retired Mod
Bronze Member
Trump - and his party, as now it IS his party - actively attempted a coup, and are the one party that is most active in gerrymandering election districts and tampering with all sorts of voting right laws, all in order to turn the tide toward open fasicsm, that is a big difference. If you see others are in the same level, I sure do not share that perspective.

Trump is as close to an african dictator or Putin as it gets, in my view.
 
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