The Gun Control debate thread

I could post a list of idiotic statements made by our sitting president that would look like the Magna Carta of idiotic statements compared to anything Carson has said. As for engaging in reasoned debate, I rise to the level of my competition. Some are worthy of it as I have had a few enjoyable exchanges today. You're the JV Team.


yeah you got me you got me, oh masterdebater


i love how you say shit like "i could" do this or that, but you don't back it up with anything concrete

then when the garbage you're talking is pointed out to you you start with the ad hominem attacks,


yeah, you're a real smart cookie - you should put yourself forward, i'm sure you could do great work for the gun lobby and/or gop ...
 
yeah you got me you got me, oh masterdebater


i love how you say shit like "i could" do this or that, but you don't back it up with anything concrete

then when the garbage you're talking is pointed out to you you start with the ad hominem attacks,


yeah, you're a real smart cookie - you should put yourself forward, i'm sure you could do great work for the gun lobby and/or gop ...
We have endured 7 years of idiotic statements by this president. Every one you agree with. Does your mommy cut your steak for you too?
 
Which of these remarks cannot be attributed to Obama? Just for starters..
R-S-P-E-C-T." --flubbing the spelling of Aretha Franklin's famous song "Respect" while paying tribute to the iconic singer, New York, NY (March 6, 2014)

"Even though most people agree... I'm presenting a fair deal, the fact that they don't take it means that I should somehow do a Jedi mind-meld with these folks and convince them to do what’s right." --mixing up Star Wars and Star Trek references while discussing working with Republicans in Congress (March 1, 2013)


"And finally, Bos, I just want to say thank you for Youkilis." –joking at a fundraiser in Boston about the Red Sox trading their beloved slugger Kevin Youkilis to Chicago White Sox, Obama's hometown team. The line drew boos from the audience. (June 25, 2012)

"When I meet with world leaders, what's striking -- whether it's in Europe or here in Asia..." -mistakenly referring to Hawaii as Asia while holding a press conference outside Honolulu, Nov. 16, 2011

"We're the country that built the Intercontinental Railroad." —Cincinnati, OH, Sept.

22, 2011

"We're not trying to push financial reform because we begrudge success that's fairly earned. I mean, I do think at a certain point you've made enough money. But, you know, part of the American way is, you know, you can just keep on making it if you're providing a good product or providing good service. We don’t want people to stop, ah, fulfilling the core responsibilities of the financial system to help grow our economy." —on Wall Street reform, Quincy, Ill., April 29, 2010

"One such translator was an American of Haitian descent, representative of the extraordinary work that our men and women in uniform do all around the world -- Navy Corpse-Man Christian Brossard." –mispronouncing "Corpsman" (the "ps" is silent) during a speech at the National Prayer Breakfast, Washington, D.C., Feb.

5, 2010 (The Corpsman's name is also Christopher, not Christian)

"The Middle East is obviously an issue that has plagued the region for centuries." --Tampa, Fla., Jan. 28, 2010

"UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? It's the Post Office that's always having problems." –attempting to make the case for government-run healthcare, while simultaneously undercutting his own argument, Portsmouth, N.H., Aug. 11, 2009

"The Cambridge police acted stupidly." —commenting on a white police officer's arrest of black scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. at his home in Cambridge, Mass., at a news conference, July 22, 2009

"The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system." --in remarks after a health care roundtable with physicians, nurses and health care providers, Washington, D.C., July 20, 2009

"It was also interesting to see that political interaction in Europe is not that different from the United States Senate. There's a lot of -- I don't know what the term is in Austrian, wheeling and dealing." --confusing German for "Austrian," a language which does not exist, Strasbourg, France, April 6, 2009

"No, no. I have been practicing...I bowled a 129. It's like -- it was like Special Olympics, or something." --making an off-hand joke during an appearance on "The Tonight Show", March 19, 2009 (Obama later called the head of the Special Olympics to apologize)

"I didn't want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about doing any seances." --after saying he had spoken with all the living presidents as he prepared to take office, Washington, D.C., Nov. 7, 2008 (Obama later called Nancy Reagan to apologize)

"I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." -- defending his tax plan to Joe the Plumber, who argued that Obama's policy hurts small-business owners like himself, Toledo, Ohio, Oct. 12, 2008

"What I was suggesting -- you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith..." --in an interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos, who jumped in to correct Obama by saying "your Christian faith," which Obama quickly clarified (Watch video clip)

"I'm here with the Girardo family here in St. Louis." --speaking via satellite to the Democratic National Convention, while in Kansas City, Missouri, Aug. 25, 2008

"Let me introduce to you the next President -- the next Vice President of the United States of America, Joe Biden." --slipping up while introducing Joe Biden at their first joint campaign rally, Springfield, Illinois, Aug. 23, 2008

"Just this past week, we passed out of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee -- which is my committee -- a bill to call for divestment from Iran as way of ratcheting up the pressure to ensure that they don't obtain a nuclear weapon." --referring to a committee he is not on, Sderot, Israel, July 23, 2008

"Let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel's. It will be a strong friend of Israel's under a McCain...administration. It will be a strong friend of Israel's under an Obama administration. So that policy is not going to change." --Amman, Jordan, July 22, 2008

"How's it going, Sunshine?" --campaigning in Sunrise, Florida

"On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the audience here today -- our sense of patriotism is particularly strong."

"Hold on one second, sweetie, we're going to do -- we'll do a press avail." --to a female reporter for ABC's Detroit affiliate who asked about his plan to help American autoworkers

"I've now been in 57 states -- I think one left to go." --at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon (Watch video clip)

"Why can't I just eat my waffle?" --after being asked a foreign policy question by a reporter while visiting a diner in Pennsylvania

"It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." --explaining his troubles winning over some working-class voters

"The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person, who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know, you know, there's a reaction that's been bred in our experiences that don't go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way, and that's just the nature of race in our society."

"Come on! I just answered, like, eight questions." --exasperated by reporters after a news conference

"You're likeable enough, Hillary." --during a Democratic debate

"In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died -- an entire town destroyed." --on a Kansas tornado that killed 12 people
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
In 1919, the German government passed the Regulations on Weapons Ownership, which declared that "all firearms, as well as all kinds of firearms ammunition, are to be surrendered immediately."Under the regulations, anyone found in possession of a firearm or ammunition was subject to five years' imprisonment and a fine of 100,000 marks.

The Treaty of Versailles had nothing to do with private gun ownership. That treaty disarmed the government of Germany.

On August 7, 1920, rising fears whether or not Germany could have rebellions prompted the government to enact a second gun-regulation law called the Law on the Disarmament of the People. It put into effect the provisions of the Versailles Treaty in regard to the limit on military-type weapons.

In 1928, after a near decade of hyperinflation destroyed the structural fabric of the society, a rapidly expanding three-way political divide between the conservatives, National Socialists, and Communists prompted the rapidly declining conservative majority to enact the Law on Firearms and Ammunition. This law relaxed gun restrictions and put into effect a strict firearm licensing scheme. Under this scheme, Germans could possess firearms, but they were required to have separate permits to do the following: own or sell firearms, carry firearms (including handguns), manufacture firearms, and professionally deal in firearms and ammunition. Furthermore, the law restricted ownership of firearms to "...persons whose trustworthiness is not in question and who can show a need for a (gun) permit." This law explicitly revoked the 1919 Regulations on Weapons Ownership, which had banned all firearms possession.

The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. But under the new law:

Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as was the possession of ammunition."[5]
The legal age at which guns could be purchased was lowered from 20 to 18.[6]
Permits were valid for three years, rather than one year.[6]
The groups of people who were exempt from the acquisition permit requirement expanded. Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP (the National Socialist German Workers' Party, aka the Nazi party) members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.[5]
Manufacture of arms and ammunition continued to require a permit, with the revision that such permits would no longer be issued to Jews or any company part-owned by Jews. Jews were consequently forbidden from the manufacturing or dealing of firearms and ammunition.[5]

Under both the 1928 and 1938 acts, gun manufacturers and dealers were required to maintain records with information about who purchased guns and the guns' serial numbers. These records were to be delivered to a police authority for inspection at the end of each year.

On November 11, 1938 (the day after Kristallnacht) the Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons were promulgated by Minister of the Interior, Wilhelm Frick, effectively depriving all Jews living under the Third Reich of the right to possess any form of weapons including truncheons, knives, or firearms and ammunition.[7]

Before that, some police forces used the pre-existing "trustworthiness" clause to disarm Jews on the basis that "the Jewish population 'cannot be regarded as trustworthy'."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_legislation_in_Germany#The_1919_Treaty_of_Versailles

The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow
the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all
conquerors
who have allowed their subject races to carry arms
have prepared their own downfall by so doing.
~Adolph Hitler
“A well regulated
militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep
and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”
5
This right, which reflects a universal and
historical power of the people in a republic to resist tyranny,
6
was not recognized in
the German Reich.

http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/article-nazilaw.pdf

This will be the only time ever I will link or agree with anything on infowars so:

http://www.infowars.com/yes-hitler-...ews-into-concentration-camps-or-gas-chambers/

TeNM592.png

wcgrdsg.png

ZSlKF75.png

qGneDkO.png


Hollywood’s best argument for being pro-gun and pro-Constitution.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
After 8 years of GWB, you'd think you'd be used to idiotic statements by now
No one ever staked claim to GWB being a great orator as they do with Obama. It's much the same way with family values Republicans, when they fuck up, you call them on it.
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
You're a fucking tool. Most of those "mass shootings" are murder/suicides. Yes, the incident rate of actual mass shootings is too high because some nutjob decides to shoot four or more people because they are gigantic pussies who can't cope with their own uselessness and instead of seeking psychological help they decide to go on a rampage. And while it is terrible and I feel awful for the victims and their families, I also know that many of them could have been saved if someone had reacted instantaneously instead of waiting for first responders. Studies have shown that the body count of active shooters is greatly reduced when someone with a concealed weapon stands up to them.

I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.
 
You're a fucking tool. .............

I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.



oooh, you're so aggressive and manly

i don't know whether i should be scared or turned on ;)


and i'm sure the real reason you carry a gun is to try to make up for your tiny little dick :D
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
No, the reason I carry a handgun is because this is America. There doesn't need to be another reason, although it is part of my job. Aside from being required to be armed, I am armed because I can protect my friends and family better than a cop who might be five minutes away.

Fag.
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
No such thing as "homophobia." It's a made up word to describe a condition that doesn't exist. Initially butt pirates tried to make the word mean someone who is afraid that they may be gay and now they decided that it means whatever is convenient to describe someone who doesn't agree with their agenda completely. I don't give a fuck either way.

But enough of your derailing topics, shit sipper. The second amendment was written by people who were smarter than you and it won't go away because you're scared of guns or freedom or self determination.
 
The second amendment was written by people who were smarter than you and it won't go away because you're scared of guns or freedom or self determination.

Yep, and they made the existence of "a well regulated militia" a pre-requisite to "the right to bear arms".
They did not wanted everyone, including the village idiot, to have the right to bear arms. But today, by refusing mandatory background checks for every gun purchase, conservative wanna protect the right of the village idiot to bear arms.
If the Second Amendment was applied as its writers would have liked it to be, the Oregon shooter would never have been allowed to get his guns.
 
Yep, and they made the existence of "a well regulated militia" a pre-requisite to "the right to bear arms".
They did not wanted everyone, including the village idiot, to have the right to bear arms. But today, by refusing mandatory background checks for every gun purchase, conservative wanna protect the right of the village idiot to bear arms.
If the Second Amendment was applied as its writers would have liked it to be, the Oregon shooter would never have been allowed to get his guns.
As someone that has spent way more time than you or others will spend in your lifetimes studying the constitution, I can say without hesitation that you are an uninformed imbecile. The only part of the Bill of Rights that leftists want to keep is Freedom of the press. The purpose of the 2nd Amendment was to arm the American citizens so they could take a stand against tyranny if need be. It was wasn't about hunters or weekend target practice. Militias were to be called into place if our way of life and freedoms were threatened by totalitarians . Those people that form those militias were back in the day farmers, shopkeepers, blacksmiths. Today these same people are farmers,shopkeepers,auto workers, truck drivers, lawyers, MLB players. It still serves the same purpose as it did 236 years ago. 99 percent of legal gun owners are responsible, most killings take place in the places with the toughest gun laws and by people that shouldn't have one to start with. So as long as fuckers like you want to take our guns because of the acts of a few, the more we realize what the ultimate goal is. Impose tyranny on people that value freedom.Our guns aren't going anywhere. Deal with it and kindly go fuck yourself. The framers prove their brilliance every time one of you asswhistles start trying to take our liberties away. They are God damned American treasures!
 
Top