The Dark Knight broke the all-time opening

... you can't help but wonder how different that number would be had Heath Ledger not died.
 
Nicholson had a small backstory. He was an ambitious mob goon gunning for the top spot when an accident dropped him into a vat of toxic materials and the makeup protected his skin while showing his true persona.. he was a joker before, he'll be a joker after.

Of course alot of that was made up specifically for the 1989 Batman movie. With the swim into the chemicals being retained from the comics.

Ledger.. well you can go by what he says, sure. But he does just *appear*. Makes sense but doesnt. Much like the joker himself.

Yup. He just appears like the Joker did in the comics Waaaaaaay back in 1940. No backstory. No explanation. Nothing. He just shows up, and causes terror among the gothamites. His various explanations about the scars was great. Because you dont know if there's even an ounce of truth in any story. Which certainly evokes a particular Alan Moore story where the Joker prefers his backstory to be "Multiple Choice".
 
I think the Movie was great I watched it this past Friday night.
 

squallumz

knows petras secret: she farted.
I haven't seen yet. I will at some point. I will just say that Jack Nicholson is a Joker that cannot be bet.

if u meant beat, then yes i agree. there will never be a batman as great as the fist one and same with the joker. i will not be seeing this one.
 

Violator79

Take a Hit, Spunker!
if u meant beat, then yes i agree. there will never be a batman as great as the fist one and same with the joker. i will not be seeing this one.

Then you are missing out and you'll regret it. The Joker in The Dark Knight is the defining Joker. In 89's Batman, Nicholson had fun with the part, made it a laughable, likeable character. In TDK, Ledger's Joker is more true to the character of the Joker. If you've read the history of the Joker, you'll find that the TDK's Joker is just like it says in the history of the character. Ledger put his sould into it and IMO is THE best Joker of all time. Now I've read that there is enough extra footage of Ledger to be added in the third movie. We'll have to wait and see.
 

squallumz

knows petras secret: she farted.
/\ /\ like i said, im not interested. first off, i cant stand heath ledger, and im somewhat of a purist. ive been grossly disappointed ever since the 3rd batman movie. batman is a great story and the characters, for the most part, are creative and interesting, i just dont care for the movies.
 
If you're a Batman purist then you'll love Ledger's Joker. He's a psychopath who wants to make everyone else as nuts as he is. That's the Joker in a nutshell.

Nicholson's Joker is very boring and tame in comparison (imo) It's basically Jack Nicholson in Joker make-up.

Even if you hate Ledger he's so good you won't notice it's him.
 

PlasmaTwa2

The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
Hey, if he doesn't want to see it, that's fine. Nicholson's Joker is good, too, and if he prefers him, all the power to him. I would give it a try, however, or at least a search on Youtube to see a couple scenes.
 
Hey, if he doesn't want to see it, that's fine. Nicholson's Joker is good, too, and if he prefers him, all the power to him. I would give it a try, however, or at least a search on Youtube to see a couple scenes.

No need trying to convince people on something that they don't want to see.Obviously he has his mind made up to not like the movie,probably because of how "over-hyped" it is:rolleyes:.

If and when you finally see it,probably on DVD,and you say,"Damn,I should have seen this in the theaters!",don't say that we didn't try to tell you.:1orglaugh

On another note,this movie just keeps steam rolling the competition.It appears that it's gonna break even more box office records.

http://www.the-numbers.com/
 

squallumz

knows petras secret: she farted.
No need trying to convince people on something that they don't want to see.Obviously he has his mind made up to not like the movie,probably because of how "over-hyped" it is:rolleyes:.

hype? who said anything about hype? i said i cant stand heath ledger and i dont like how the movie looks. i could really care less how much money it made and how fast. i dont listen to reviews or take them serious for that matter. i happen to be very picky with my entertainment. i dont go see a movie cause it comes out, it has to really be something great for me to see it. star wars was a money maker and i didnt care for that either. im not going to rent it on dvd either, again, im not interested in it. you dont have to get your panties in a bunch guys, i just dont like what they've done with the movies.

everyone voiced their opinion on how much they liked it, i voiced mine on how i dont want anything to do with it. just cause im in the minority, doesnt mean its that big a deal.
 
If you're a Batman purist then you'll love Ledger's Joker. He's a psychopath who wants to make everyone else as nuts as he is. That's the Joker in a nutshell.

Nicholson's Joker is very boring and tame in comparison (imo) It's basically Jack Nicholson in Joker make-up.

Even if you hate Ledger he's so good you won't notice it's him.

Im with you on that . I saw the movie last night and was just amazed at how Ledger played the part. He played it the way it was to be played....even down to the laugh. No one will be able to do it any better IMO . Its a shame he's dead, cause he will get alot of awards for that role. He really showed his true talent as an actor with this film.
 
You don't have to convince me about your dislike for the new Batman franchise. You're entitled to your opinion. I don't listen to reviews myself, some of the best films I've seen are the ones that get terrible reviews and some of the worst I've seen are the ones that have received great reviews. As it stands nobody and I mean nobody will ever convince me that The Godfather is the great movie or franchise that everyone says it is. I can't stand that film.

Edit: This was directed towards Squallumz.
 
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everyone voiced their opinion on how much they liked it, i voiced mine on how i dont want anything to do with it. just cause im in the minority, doesnt mean its that big a deal.

It's okay to not like something that most people do like. Art is art. However, I'm still waiting to read a reason as to why you don't like it other than 1. I don't like Heath Ledger and 2. I'm picky about movies. 3. I feel letdown with Batman movies after the 3rd one.

Those are kinda lame reasons dude. :rolleyes: They're lame because Heath Ledger plays a Joker more authentic to the source material than Jack Nicholson's comic Joker. The Chris Nolan directed Batman movies have nothing in common with the previous Batman movies and render those movies to the BURN PILE:flame:

I hope you genuinely dislike Heath Ledger for a reason other than he played a gay cowboy once.

Just a question--which Star Wars films don't you like? The 70s ones or the new ones? That answer will shed a lot of light on your preferences...:wave2:
 
http://www.boxofficeguru.com/weekend.htm

Audiences once again filled theaters all weekend for the superhero blockbuster The Dark Knight which grossed an estimated $75.6M dropping a reasonable 52% from its record-breaking opening weekend. With the cume soaring to an eye-popping $314.2M after only ten days, the Warner Bros. release shattered the $300M mark in record time. The old record was held by Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest which banked $258.4M of loot over its first ten days and crossed the triple-century mark in 16 days.

The new Batman film also set a new record for the largest second weekend gross outdistancing the $72.2M that Shrek 2 hauled in back in May 2004. Knight has now virtually matched the $314.9M collected by Iron Man over the last three months and will become the year's highest grossing blockbuster on Monday. On the all-time list, the new Joker saga has quickly climbed up to number 23 sitting right next to 2001's The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring.

Dark Knight's hold was impressive considering how much business it already absorbed on the first weekend. Looking at the largest opening weekends in movie history, second weekend drops were 62% for Spider-Man 3, 54% for Dead Man's Chest, and 56% for Shrek the Third. Word-of-mouth has been strong for the Christopher Nolan-directed sequel and the Imax showings continue to be a major event creating even more excitement and repeat business.

Given its sturdy hold, Knight now looks to be on a trajectory that will see it zoom past the $400M mark by the end of its third week of release. With most of the summer's tentpole titles already played out, and a full month before students go back to school, the Caped Crusader now has a realistic shot of breaking through the $500M mark domestically joining only Titanic in that exclusive stratosphere.

Overseas, The Dark Knight was a dominant force grossing an estimated $65.6M and ranking number one in 43 markets. The opening in the United Kingdom which followed last week's glitzy London premiere led the way with $22.3M, including previews, while holdover markets dropped by an average of only 38%. The early international cume rose to $126.3M putting the global tally at a stunning $440.5M with major territories like Japan, Germany, Korea, and France still to open. A worldwide haul of more than $1 billion is certainly possible for Bruce Wayne and pals.
 
Comparing Nicholson's Joker, to Ledger's Joker's is like comparing apples & oranges.

To state the obvious ... they are two very different portrayals of the clown prince of crime. You might as well compare Star Wars to Star Trek and argue which is better if you're going to do that. Or how Mark Hamill's approach differs from Nicholson, and Ledger's. They are just flat out different. And a comparison, especially in these circumstances, isnt really fair to either in my estimation. Nicholson's Joker is more along the lines of the Golden Age Joker found in the early 1940's Batman comics. Where Ledger's is more akin to the Joker found in the during the 1970's, and even more so with the 1980's with such works as Alan Moore's "Watchmen", and Frank Miller's "The Dark Knight Returns". Two very different approaches to say the very least.

But both very entertaining and satisfying as well.
 
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