Sponsor Of Bill Requiring Drug Testing - Welfare Recipients, Arrested For DUI

[meesterperfect]

Welfare sucks us dry to the tune of 2.7% of GDP ($346 million annually)[fiscal 2008] while oil subsidies only cost taxpayers $4-$41 BILLLION yearly.
Those poor lazy bastards on welfare, some of whom work 2 or 3 PT jobs, & still earn <$10,000 are raping us, eh?

I just don't buy that.
When you add up the whole sum of how much it costs including everything involved its much higher than the number you wrote.

But without getting into that too much just because this person got a DUI how does that make the law wrong?
The 2 things have nothing to do with each other.

 

[Mayhem]

I posted this thread because I am sick and tired of Republican/Conservative hypocrisy. In the last 2 years, how many anti-gay politicians with an (R) by their names have been busted having gay affairs? How many of these affairs involved gay prostitutes? We got that sack o' shit Newt Gingrich talking about "traditional American values" (whatever the hell they are) in that irritatingly condescending voice of his. Yet he can't hold a marriage together. And now they want to piss test poor people, when they can't pass a breathalyzer test.

How can the rest of you tolerate an environment like this? How can you Republicans tolerate having people like this represent you?

And here's a dose of reality for you. How do any of you expect a nationwide urinalysis to do anything but be a waste of time? Who is going to monitor these people when they pee? How many lawsuits do you think are going to spring up as a direct result? Lots of elderly people live on welfare. Someone is going to stand there and watch granny hike up her girdle and piss into a cup? And what about the younger, more attractive crowd? With the plethora of abuses committed by the DHS/TSA at airports, do you really think that this measure won't result in even more legitimate cases of closet pervs getting their kicks with some poor single mother?

Whatever money you simpletons think is going to be saved is going to be burned up in court case after court case. Not to mention the ones that go all the way to the Supreme Court.

All this, thanks to the Republican Party, the small government people.

 

[Legzman]

Whatever money you simpletons think is going to be saved is going to be burned up in court case after court case. Not to mention the ones that go all the way to the Supreme Court.

My point was to get the worthless scum off welfare. And who said it had to be piss test? It could be a simple cotton swab on the inside of the cheek. Pretty hard to cheat that! Also quicker and less degrading than a piss test.

 

[Mayhem]

How much does that cost?

 

[Legzman]

Dunno, but I doubt it's as much as piss testing. It definitely doesn't cost more.

 

[Mayhem]

I wouldn't count on that. Based on my limited knowledge, it sounds like it would be much more. But I could be wrong.

In either case, it is against the law to require a citizen to submit evidence against themselves. So this will still wind up in court.

But anyway, people were asking what one thing has to do with another. I have given the answer that I have.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

I posted this thread because I am sick and tired of Republican/Conservative hypocrisy. In the last 2 years, how many anti-gay politicians w.

Do you think people should be on welfare for life if they want with no repercussions?

 

[Mayhem]

I'm saying that the Republicans are hypocrites. I'm saying that they have no leg to stand on when they act superior to the rest of us. They say they want less spending, smaller gov't, more freedom. Yet it is they who built the DHS/TSA, condone illegal wiretapping, condone water boarding. They are against gay marriage, when their own marriages are nothing to write home about. They want lower taxes, yet pissing every single welfare recipient will cost millions in the ways outlined earlier.

They say one thing then do the exact opposite. And they keep doing it. The entire Republican platform is nothing but a sham.

 

[xfire]

I'm saying that the Republicans are hypocrites. I'm saying that they have no leg to stand on when they act superior to the rest of us. They say they want less spending, smaller gov't, more freedom. Yet it is they who built the DHS/TSA, condone illegal wiretapping, condone water boarding. They are against gay marriage, when their own marriages are nothing to write home about. They want lower taxes, yet pissing every single welfare recipient will cost millions in the ways outlined earlier.

They say one thing then do the exact opposite. And they keep doing it. The entire Republican platform is nothing but a sham.

I had a moment of clarity and realized the same thing back in 1993. The democrats aren't perfect but they're miles ahead of the gop.

 

[ShikokuKichiguy]

(R) or (D), they're no different.
Liars, thieves, hypocrites, politicians.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

(R) or (D), they're no different.
Liars, thieves, hypocrites, politicians.

This^^^^ Don't forget, the Rep. might want to spend millions testing the recipients, but the Dems. are the ones that want to give them all of the freebies.

Nothing will ever be fixed, because neither side wants it to be fixed!

 

[bobjustbob]

I'm saying that the Republicans are hypocrites. I'm saying that they have no leg to stand on when they act superior to the rest of us. They say they want less spending, smaller gov't, more freedom. Yet it is they who built the DHS/TSA, condone illegal wiretapping, condone water boarding. They are against gay marriage, when their own marriages are nothing to write home about. They want lower taxes, yet pissing every single welfare recipient will cost millions in the ways outlined earlier.

They say one thing then do the exact opposite. And they keep doing it. The entire Republican platform is nothing but a sham.

Don't throw that blanket onto all of us.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

I'm saying that the Republicans are hypocrites. I'm saying that they have no leg to stand on when they act superior to the rest of us. They say they want less spending, smaller gov't, more freedom. Yet it is they who built the DHS/TSA, condone illegal wiretapping, condone water boarding. They are against gay marriage, when their own marriages are nothing to write home about. They want lower taxes, yet pissing every single welfare recipient will cost millions in the ways outlined earlier.

They say one thing then do the exact opposite. And they keep doing it. The entire Republican platform is nothing but a sham.

It IS a sweeping generalization, Mayhem.

 

[El Perro Mayor]

Is drinking alcohol legal? Yes.
Is driving under the influence illegal? Yes.
He didn't get arrested getting drunk at some bar, it was for driving drunk.
A-hole could have killed someone.

 

[Mayhem]

Don't throw that blanket onto all of us.

It IS a sweeping generalization, Mayhem.

I'm going by what I see on the same news that the rest of you watch. These are the people that you Republicans allow to represent you.

Smaller gov't, smaller gov't, smaller gov't. Hey, let's ignore an historic opportunity to give the CIA, FBI and DoD the funding that they need, that we've been bitching about for decades, and create a whole new agency/bureaucracy, which costs billions, does nothing that the other three couldn't have done themselves, and who acts like America's Gestapo. Smaller gov't, smaller gov't, smaller gov't.

Hey, I'm an expert on who should and shouldn't be allowed get married. If you don't believe me, just ask my third wife.

Hey, we're the freedom party. We're all about liberty. The Bill o' Rights gives me an actual, physical hard-on. Now all I need to cum is an earfull of your private phone conversations while I'm torturing a rag head. But if you're speaking Spanish, I guess I'm shit out of luck. Fuckin' brown people. Hey, let's build a wall to keep the non-caucasians out, because it worked so well for the East Germans. Freedom and liberty, baby. And anyone who disagrees with us is unpatriotic and has a faked birth certificate.

 

[ShikokuKichiguy]

*In 2011, more than 45 million people – about one in seven Americans – received benefits from the federal Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, the most ever. Fewer than 31 million people collected the benefits about three years earlier.
*Forty-nine percent of recipients are white, 26 percent are black and 20 percent are Hispanic, according to Census data.

* "...the African-American community should demand paychecks and not be satisfied with food stamps." - Newt Gingrich

 

[xfire]

It IS a sweeping generalization, Mayhem.

I don't see you bitching at Sam Fisher. All of his posts are "liberals this, liberals that".

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

Since when was requiring drug tests for taking taxpayer dollars a political, partisan issue????

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

I'm going by what I see on the same news that the rest of you watch. These are the people that you Republicans allow to represent you.

Smaller gov't, smaller gov't, smaller gov't. Hey, let's ignore an historic opportunity to give the CIA, FBI and DoD the funding that they need, that we've been bitching about for decades, and create a whole new agency/bureaucracy, which costs billions, does nothing that the other three couldn't have done themselves, and who acts like America's Gestapo. Smaller gov't, smaller gov't, smaller gov't.

Hey, I'm an expert on who should and shouldn't be allowed get married. If you don't believe me, just ask my third wife.

Hey, we're the freedom party. We're all about liberty. The Bill o' Rights gives me an actual, physical hard-on. Now all I need to cum is an earfull of your private phone conversations while I'm torturing a rag head. But if you're speaking Spanish, I guess I'm shit out of luck. Fuckin' brown people. Hey, let's build a wall to keep the non-caucasians out, because it worked so well for the East Germans. Freedom and liberty, baby. And anyone who disagrees with us is unpatriotic and has a faked birth certificate.

I'm not a Republican! I voted for Nader in '04 for fuck's sake.

Sweeping generalizations. Sweeping generalizations.

 

[LukeEl]

Tell you what if I win the Global Lottery for a gajillion dollars there will be drug tests for everyone!