Sotomayor nominated to high court — first Hispanic

[CunningStunts]

Because she was responding to a question with a statement consistent with other women justices.

Different people see things differently....hence the reason for 8 Supreme Court Justices and 1 Chief Justice.

If it's just as simple as looking at the Constitution and not having different perspectives...why not just have one guy do it??

Agree to disagree with your assertion that "perspective" is important for a judge. They are there to interpret the Constitution and law. I want the smartest, most logical and rational judges, not some social experiment where we have to have every different group of humans represented. We've never had a retarded Justice either, is that next? What about a satanist? Or a cannibal? None of those on the Court either, and that's not fair. Gay Supreme Court justices? Not there either, and perhaps a gay perspective is needed as well......

I could go on and one, but I think I've make my reduction ad absurdum clear.

 

[YMIHERE]

She won't be the first Hispanic if she makes it...but don't let the Obama sideshow get interrupted.

I’ll bet Pibert will say it’s Justice Benjamin Cardozo. But his family was from Portugal so he is in no way Hispanic. He did not even speak Spanish.

 

[Philbert]

I’ll bet Pibert will say it’s Justice Benjamin Cardozo. But his family was from Portugal so he is in no way Hispanic. He did not even speak Spanish.

While I don't know who Pibert is, you seem to feel you have the last word on deciding who is Hispanic and who's not...not.
Spanish-speaking is not a criterion for being Hispanic...surprise.


"Benjamin Nathan Cardozo (May 24, 1870–July 9, 1938) was a well-known American lawyer and possibly the first Supreme Court Justice of Hispanic descent (depending on the definition), remembered for his significant influence on the development of American common law in the 20th century, in addition to his modesty, philosophy, and vivid prose style. Although Cardozo served on the Supreme Court from 1932 until his death, the majority of his landmark decisions were delivered during his 18-year tenure on the New York Court of Appeals, the highest court of that state."

I guess being a Mexican-descent Justice would be a first...how much Native Mexican is in her bloodline...Aztec, Maya, Toltec?
Does that make it a landmark for the slaughtered native races of the Southern Americas...or for the Catholic female Mexican-etc peoples?
And does it really matter, except to race-obsessed liberals and others of similar persuasion?
I worry more about her specific sympathies for the "disadvantaged" over the specific rule of written law, regardless of who has chosen to ignore the same.
Did anyone think Obama would choose a strict centrist to start the new Supreme Court soon to be interpreting the Constitution as a living document, with various said intentions as interpreted by Justice Sotomayor and the soon to be added Obama justices?
Like a certain bear once said," The Ranger's not gonna like that!"

 

[The Paulinator]

I’ll bet Pibert will say it’s Justice Benjamin Cardozo. But his family was from Portugal so he is in no way Hispanic. He did not even speak Spanish.

His·pan·ic
Pronunciation:
\hi-ˈspa-nik\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin hispanicus, from Hispania Iberian Peninsula, Spain
Date: 1584

1: of or relating to the people, speech, or culture of Spain or of Spain and Portugal
2: of, relating to, or being a person of Latin American descent living in the United States ; especially : one of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hispanic

Now we all know

 

[YMIHERE]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hispanic

Now we all know

In the modern world Hispanic is the term is used to describe the culture and people of countries formerly ruled by Spain, usually with a majority population of substantial Spanish heritage and speaking the Spanish language.

People now living in Spain or Portugal are Europeans not Hispanic.

 

[The Paulinator]

In the modern world Hispanic is the term is used to describe the culture and people of countries formerly ruled by Spain, usually with a majority population of substantial Spanish heritage and speaking the Spanish language.

People now living in Spain or Portugal are Europeans not Hispanic.

Yeah, no, thet's not what a Reliable Source says.

May I ask from where you get your information?

Seriously, I am always more interested in truth than in argument.

 

[YMIHERE]

Yeah, no, thet's not what a Reliable Source says.

May I ask from where you get your information?

Seriously, I am always more interested in truth than in argument.

The source is me.

So you're telling me people in Spain and Portugal are Hispanic not Europeans?

 

[The Paulinator]

So you're telling me people in Spain and Portugal are Hispanic not Europeans?

Hey, that's what Merriam/Webster told me. I was curious. I learned that about 2 minutes before you did.

 

[titsrock]

when i was 17 i worked at a burger shop where a hispanic lady was manager, she was very nice but also very lazy and incompetent HTH

Unless her name was Sonia Sotomayor how is it relevant to this thread?

Well maybe it was I don't remember.

Is there anyway we can nominate these posts collectively as Post of the Week?:1orglaugh

:glugglug:

Carry on.....

 

[The Paulinator]

Is there anyway we can nominate these posts collectively as Post of the Week?:1orglaugh

I think you could cover it if you were to nominate "Marijuana" or "Excessive Drinking" as Member of the Week

 

[D-rock]

It's a good thing Obama just went with the most qualified person there was and didn't base his decision on race or gender....oh wait. Was a man even up for consideration?

Considering what Obama wanted before I have a hard time believing she won't be a judicial activist. I could be wrong, but it would shock me.

If it's just as simple as looking at the Constitution and not having different perspectives...why not just have one guy do it??

Because it's easier for one person to be corrupt and to force his own political views in the ruling he makes, or what they think would make good policy and not what's enforcing the law than multiple people doing it.

A judges only duty is enforcing the law, not changing or twisting it because they don't think it's a good idea, or it doesn't suit the times.

 

[Facetious]

first hispanic

Who really gives a sh-- about the ethnic extraction of the SCotUS nomination ! ? This is a lifetime judicial appointment that should have been made with the greatest of politically unbiased precision.


In typical democratic party fashion, the President makes his nomination to the SCotUS not on the basis of moderate, measured and politically unbiased means as originally intended, but on political opportunism i.e. - Appease an emerging ethnic voting constituency (latino community) for the purposes of hedging a political victory come 2012.

(rahm emanuel focus group :thinktank: "How do we get the most bang for our buck here, good people ? Go ahead, milk it for all it's worth ! Nevermind the ever approaching 30 trillion debt !! Just fuckin go for it ! " :1orglaugh:

The democratic party apparatchiks despise the originality of
The Constitution of the United States of America, after all, that's what progressivism is all about - for they must transcend well outside the boundaries of that old tried and tired, "living / breathing constitution" . . . authored by custy 'ol white anglo domineers !

Make no mistake, kid yourself not, this appointment promised
to work for "Economic Justice"
Well, go to he!!, lady ! when TSHTFan, I will fight to be free of your tyrannical ambitions, 'till death parts !

 

[Facetious]

Almost forgot . . .OK, I did ! I did forget to add "" at the finish of me post. :grin:

 

[titsrock]

(rahm emanuel focus group :thinktank: "How do we get the most bang for our buck here, good people ? Go ahead, milk it for all it's worth ! Nevermind the ever approaching 30 trillion debt !! Just fuckin go for it ! " :

Hmm. Unless I'm mistaken..the SCOTUS has nothing to do with solving the economic disaster that is our economy...:dunno:

Here is the pattern...
Ronald Reagan and "Reagonomics" explode deficits
George HW Bush inherits Reagan's crumbling economy and guides the country into a recession, coupled with Gulf War 1 which further clogged the economy
In rides Bill Clinton--economy soars:thumbsup:
American people listen too much to nincompoop GOP and *blow* Monicagate out of proportion.
In rides Dubya....9/11, housing boom/bust nightmare, economy craters...

A *NEW* Democrat is president again! Yay...economy will soar again:thumbsup:

Rome wasn't built in a day and though it took Dubya/Cheney and the GOP 7 years to destroy the U.S. economy....Obama will turn it around in 1 year.

Give him time. :dunno:

Even if this SCOTUS nominee is a *flaming Lib* nightmare pick (which I doubt she is) the GOP doesn't have a filibuster in the Senate to stop it. Olympia Snowe - R - from Maine is a Sotomayor fan.

 

[Nester6]

She's had 80% of her decisions that were appealed to the high court overturned. Strike one.

She admits to wanting to "make policy" from the bench. Strike two.

She made a rather racist remark about her background allowing her to make "better decision than some white male." Strike 3.

You're out!! :thefinger

She obviously doesn't understand the basic Constitutional edict of Separation of Powers, and that's really the only strike you need IMO to be axed from the Supreme Court. Kids in 6th grade learn that...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/us/15judge.html

This is very troubling. Obama wants to solidify the Hispanic vote. I don't like anything about this guy or how he is financially crippling America.

 

[calpoon]

yeah, what a bastard Obama is trying to get Hispanics to like him. He should only cater toward (insert your racial preference here.)

For the record, he already covered his bases with old white dudes by making one his VP. Although I guess since he wasn't a republican it doesn't count for much.

 

[Philbert]

In the modern world Hispanic is the term is used to describe the culture and people of countries formerly ruled by Spain, usually with a majority population of substantial Spanish heritage and speaking the Spanish language.

People now living in Spain or Portugal are Europeans not Hispanic.

Way to hang on and never admit you're wrong...so, that means people living in Mexico are Americans, not Hispanics...people in Spain and Portugal have lost their Hispanic designation the same way "bad" now means 'great" 'cause in the modern world the bros in da 'hood have rewritten the language, and that's the way it is...!

I'll stick to actual word meanings as defined by "other than YMIHERE", thanks anyway.

____________________________________________
"...mama told me there'd be days like this."

 

[girk1]

She's had 80% of her decisions that were appealed to the high court overturned. Strike one.

This is the misinformation some blindly repeat after hearing Limbaugh say it. Professor Ogeltree dismissed this 80% garbage on CNN & a Washington post article does the same:

http://prairiepundit.blogspot.com/2009/05/sotomayer-reversal-rate.html

Sotomayor has made 380 Majority opinions during her 11 years on the appellate courts & has only had 3 overturned(less than 1 percent). That's hardly 80% & flat out misinformation. The Supreme courts have only decided to hear/rule on only 5 of her decisions(meaning they agreed with her rulings/had no cause to question or overturn the others).

Of the 5 the Courts heard they overturned those 3. An underhanded & very misleading way of coming up with 80% ,but who would expect anything more of Limbaugh & those who foolishly parrot the garbage he spews.

Good choice by Obama on a more than qualified Judge who will be confirmed.

 

[Friday on my mind]

Will she be a good addition to the court? Time will tell.
She will be confirmed rather easily I think as she has not really ruled on the big hot button issues as an appelate judge that the right can jump on her about like abortion or same sex marriage.Her views on such things we will find out later as a supreme court judge I would imagine.
The republicans will make a little noise but thats about all then she will be confirmed as there is really nothing in her record to stop that.This is the price of losing elections republicans ,Bush and previous republicans got to nominate the Clarence Thomas's,Scalia,Alito's of the world to the bench,Obama gets to choose now.

 

[Hot Mega]

Agree to disagree with your assertion that "perspective" is important for a judge. They are there to interpret the Constitution and law. I want the smartest, most logical and rational judges, not some social experiment where we have to have every different group of humans represented. We've never had a retarded Justice either, is that next? What about a satanist? Or a cannibal? None of those on the Court either, and that's not fair. Gay Supreme Court justices? Not there either, and perhaps a gay perspective is needed as well......

I could go on and one, but I think I've make my reduction ad absurdum clear.

When Justices come to decisions those decisions are rendered in "opinions". What is an opinion based on if not one's perspective?? The only reason to quorum several people for the purposes of coming to a conclusion on one subject would be because of different perspectives. If there is only one way to interpret something, you only need one person for that.

That's the same reason you have more than one person on a jury. What you're confusing with perspective is framework for rendering a decision. In the case of the USSC the framework for making decision is precedence and the Constitution...Likewise with a jury, individual jurors have their own perspectives but their judgements are to be made in the framework of the jury instructions.

I guess being a Mexican-descent Justice would be a first...how much Native Mexican is in her bloodline...Aztec, Maya, Toltec?
Does that make it a landmark for the slaughtered native races of the Southern Americas...or for the Catholic female Mexican-etc peoples?
And does it really matter, except to race-obsessed liberals and others of similar persuasion?
I worry more about her specific sympathies for the "disadvantaged" over the specific rule of written law, regardless of who has chosen to ignore the same.
Did anyone think Obama would choose a strict centrist to start the new Supreme Court soon to be interpreting the Constitution as a living document, with various said intentions as interpreted by Justice Sotomayor and the soon to be added Obama justices?
Like a certain bear once said," The Ranger's not gonna like that!"

As I understand it, she is Puerto Rican.