Should there just be a "Mass shooting in the US" sticky thread?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/manslaughter-charges-collingwood-shooting-1.5969907

Compare that with the treatment this guy got in Canada this past year .
Three masked guys, one with a sawed-off shotgun forced their way into this guy's home where he's with his GF and 8-yr old daughter. They zip tie the two (they don't know about the daughter), when the guys son, who's seeing all this on surveillance footage confronts the guys. He & his father manage to take the shotgun away in a struggle and kill two of the intruders.

And yet, he's the one taken into custody and not only that, faced a murder trial where the charges were finally withdrawn.

I would imagine in the US he wouldn't have even been taken into custody, let alone face trial.
 
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We're lucky we had multiple camera w/multiple clear angles on him. That's pretty much the only reason we got decisive answers from him. The case would have very different with this video. Can you imagine how many time he (or rittenhouse) would have said "I don't recall" during the trial if we didn't have this evidence?

Agreed. Glad the evidence was there to show what happened.
 
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/manslaughter-charges-collingwood-shooting-1.5969907

Compare that with the treatment this guy got in Canada this past year .
Three masked guys, one with a sawed-off shotgun forced their way into this guy's home where he's with his GF and 8-yr old daughter. They zip tie the two (they don't know about the daughter), when the guys son, who's seeing all this on surveillance footage confronts the guys. He & his father manage to take the shotgun away in s struggle and kill two of the intruders.

And yet, he's the one taken into custody and not only that, faced a murder trial where the charges were finally withdrawn.

I would imagine in the US he wouldn't have even been taken into custody, let alone face trial.

That guy sounds like a hero. Is Toxic Masculinity a serious offense up there?
 

gmase

On the dark side of the moon
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/manslaughter-charges-collingwood-shooting-1.5969907

Compare that with the treatment this guy got in Canada this past year .
Three masked guys, one with a sawed-off shotgun forced their way into this guy's home where he's with his GF and 8-yr old daughter. They zip tie the two (they don't know about the daughter), when the guys son, who's seeing all this on surveillance footage confronts the guys. He & his father manage to take the shotgun away in a struggle and kill two of the intruders.

And yet, he's the one taken into custody and not only that, faced a murder trial where the charges were finally withdrawn.

I would imagine in the US he wouldn't have even been taken into custody, let alone face trial.
It would depend on where the intrusion took place. Thirty eight states have 'stand your ground' laws which address how one is able to protect their own home.

There are some glaring differences in the facts of this case and Rittenhouse's. Defending one's own home with lethal force should be a no-brainer.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
It would depend on where the intrusion took place. Thirty eight states have 'stand your ground' laws which address how one is able to protect their own home.

There are some glaring differences in the facts of this case and Rittenhouse's. Defending one's own home with lethal force should be a no-brainer.
Here in Ohio, what they call the "castle doctrine" entitles you the right to defend yourself in your car, and work place, and we have NO OBLIGATION to retreat.
 

gmase

On the dark side of the moon
Here in Ohio, what they call the "castle doctrine" entitles you the right to defend yourself in your car, and work place, and we have NO OBLIGATION to retreat.
Sounds fair to me.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Sounds fair to me.
They way the world is today, you need to be able to not rely on response time from law enforcement. I'm not in a horrible area, but I am close, and just a literal 5 min. drive to my old residence, the house 3 down has 6 holes in it from a drive by. And were talking hand cannon sized holes. It was no 9mm or .38 spl. that did it. Not to mention, what happens if you're walking to your car with a cart full of groceries? Ask the nice hoodlum to please wait, whilst I dial 911? You go to a corner store at 10 pm to grab a 12 pack, ant there's a bunch of people hanging around in front of the store. Who knows what they might be up to. Better safe then sorry. I give no one the benefit of the doubt. That along with trust and respect are things you have to earn....with in reason. those 4 kids hanging out in front of the store could be just looking for someone to buy them beer. Or a set up by the cops to catch you doing just that. Happened to a friend of mine.
 

Theopolis Q. Hossenffer

I am in America, not of it.
Well, not a shooting per say but:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/21/us/wisconsin-parade-crash-shooting.html

This is personal to me as my daughter and her family live in Waukesha and had planned to go to the parade today. She would have been right where the asshole rammed the crowd. Luckily my little grandson did not wake up from his nap in time for them to go, Her friends and neighbors were there. As far a I know no one she knows was hurt. But several have died and many more are injured. Supposedly both the car and also gunshots were used. The cops caught the guy but I don't know anymore about it. Except I am Angry.
 
Well, not a shooting per say but:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/21/us/wisconsin-parade-crash-shooting.html

This is personal to me as my daughter and her family live in Waukesha and had planned to go to the parade today. She would have been right where the asshole rammed the crowd. Luckily my little grandson did not wake up from his nap in time for them to go, Her friends and neighbors were there. As far a I know no one she knows was hurt. But several have died and many more are injured. Supposedly both the car and also gunshots were used. The cops caught the guy but I don't know anymore about it. Except I am Angry.

I'm following the story right now. I'm upset about it but this is a local story to you. Thank God your family wasn't there. We'll all stay concerned for those who were there. There is a preliminary word that a person of interest is in custody.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Well, not a shooting per say but:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/21/us/wisconsin-parade-crash-shooting.html

This is personal to me as my daughter and her family live in Waukesha and had planned to go to the parade today. She would have been right where the asshole rammed the crowd. Luckily my little grandson did not wake up from his nap in time for them to go, Her friends and neighbors were there. As far a I know no one she knows was hurt. But several have died and many more are injured. Supposedly both the car and also gunshots were used. The cops caught the guy but I don't know anymore about it. Except I am Angry.
I'm glad your family and friends are safe, and I'm forry this is got you so angry. Watch your stress levels Bubb, it's easy to pop a vessel when you get your brain in a dark place. I get why, and I don't mean to make it sound trivial, but blood pressure is a fucked up thing to the heart, brain, and body.
 
I bet you're the first one to call the "pigs" when you need help though, aren't you. Some guy grabs your old ladies ass, or some stranger hanging around a play ground, you whimper to those "pigs", because you need them to keep your scared little behind safe. You've made it quite clear that you aren't pro 2nd Amendment, so I guess that leaves you with your fists. You must be UFC grade bad ass to stop a criminal. Maybe if you took a half of a second to think about how many rights they really do have in China, You Might just get that light bulb above your head to illuminate the reality that, the people in China, are so scared of their leaders, and police, that they know better then to do the kinds of things that make police carry guns. You Might also try to remember that the police and government of that cesspool of a country also doesn't have to follow any rules or regulations, before they just put a round into the back of your head, when you do violate the law. You're praising a country that wouldn't piss on one of their citizens to put them out, if they were on fire. Putting a disclaimer of "not counting the", is as sad an excuse as I have ever heard. You are truly, just pathetic, you really are. I don't suppose you would want to give any "not counting the", slack to "pigs", that might be facing a potential threat here in North America, would you? I would also guess you have no idea what it's like to stare down a gun, or be shot at. Ever fear for your life, who will you call when you fear for your life? The term "pig" is HIGHLY OFFENSIVE to me, and it should be to everyone, and the mods should take note that, it IS as offensive as ANY OTHER RACIAL, OR ETHNIC SLUR!

You're pretty pathetic yourself assuming that everyone is a pig lover like you? Assuming that everyone is cowardly talking tough until the pigs arrive for you to suck off?

I call them pigs because I choose NOT to call them for protection, unlike you assuming that everyone is scared of a world without pigs like you. I've been saved by paramedics and doctors but never have I not will I be a coward like you to grovel like your are now encouraging others to pig worship as you do.

So you can bet this and bet that you coward that everyone simply must be scared of life scared of death so scared like you that you can't imagine a world free of the stench of cowardly bullies like you and other pigs.

So I'll repeat it so you're not confused - no, I don't call pigs for protection of rescue when my life is in danger not will I ever do so, I've risked my life many times and I will do so again because calling them had proven to be of no benefit or protection at all.

Literally I can run away or drive away or hide faster than pigs like you arrive trying to be tough guys.

You bet I've never stared down the barrel of a gun? What a pompous fool you are hiding behind your computer screen with all you guns but still so scared that you have to make foolish assumptions about the world behind your keyboard.

I've started down barrels of police guns and non police guns been shot at by police and non police too, and I rather be shot by non police instead of shot by police - my choice of I could make it.

About China, you pompous name changing pig(white Christian Devil into daystar? lame), I've lived in China have you? Keep making assumptions jackass. You think people in China live scared? Used to be people in China would pay large to immigrate here, now the majority of them live better than people do here - except for the few victims of pig brutality, sound familiar? Because that's the same as here, everyone loves it until they because victims of police brutality - same everywhere.

Only pigs like you promote pig culture by telling people to turn blind eye because it's worse elsewhere - just like you must tell domestic abuse victims not to complain because it's worse if they leave.

Really, nothing is more pathetic than an idiot like you who thought they had everything right, then found out ask their assumptions are wrong - classic pompous pig culture.

You talk of his in should worry about Chinese pigs putting a bullet in me? How can they when they don't carry guns you idiot? Of course they can take me to jail and steal my organs, but at least they don't carry guns like the pigs here.

The term pig is offensive to you BECAUSE YOU ARE A PIG, you're a pig calling for help now wanting moderators to do what you can't do - shut someone out from telling the truth about you, you're a pathetic keyboard authoritarian pig wanting to bully others by pretending to be patriotic.

Funny thing is you're a worse pig than the Chinese pigs in China, in fact you are the type to join the Communist party there simply because you're an authoritarian like them - that can't stand others who aren't authoritarian.

So remember this YOU PIG, I'm not the only one that chooses not to call the pigs for assistance no matter what, it's an easy choice - either call them and have pig culture idiots like you show up or not show up, or just keep going. The fact that many in this country choose the same as me proves just how much a problem pig culture is in this world.
 
Shall we address the Rittenhouse verdict? Kind of surprised it hasn't been debated here that much.

That's because ritenhouse represents the same pig culture attitude that white devil or daystar or whatever he changes his name to, supports - pigs just want to be free to do it to you, pigs don't want the same done to them.

Double standards are what pig culture is all about.

I wasn't surprised at the verdict or his fake ass crying. Just shows that no one, even rittenhouse should have to arrested or go to jail to begin with, just shows why so many rather deal with problems themselves instead of choosing to get involved with the pig system.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
You're pretty pathetic yourself assuming that everyone is a pig lover like you? Assuming that everyone is cowardly talking tough until the pigs arrive for you to suck off?

I call them pigs because I choose NOT to call them for protection, unlike you assuming that everyone is scared of a world without pigs like you. I've been saved by paramedics and doctors but never have I not will I be a coward like you to grovel like your are now encouraging others to pig worship as you do.

So you can bet this and bet that you coward that everyone simply must be scared of life scared of death so scared like you that you can't imagine a world free of the stench of cowardly bullies like you and other pigs.

So I'll repeat it so you're not confused - no, I don't call pigs for protection of rescue when my life is in danger not will I ever do so, I've risked my life many times and I will do so again because calling them had proven to be of no benefit or protection at all.

Literally I can run away or drive away or hide faster than pigs like you arrive trying to be tough guys.

You bet I've never stared down the barrel of a gun? What a pompous fool you are hiding behind your computer screen with all you guns but still so scared that you have to make foolish assumptions about the world behind your keyboard.

I've started down barrels of police guns and non police guns been shot at by police and non police too, and I rather be shot by non police instead of shot by police - my choice of I could make it.

About China, you pompous name changing pig(white Christian Devil into daystar? lame), I've lived in China have you? Keep making assumptions jackass. You think people in China live scared? Used to be people in China would pay large to immigrate here, now the majority of them live better than people do here - except for the few victims of pig brutality, sound familiar? Because that's the same as here, everyone loves it until they because victims of police brutality - same everywhere.

Only pigs like you promote pig culture by telling people to turn blind eye because it's worse elsewhere - just like you must tell domestic abuse victims not to complain because it's worse if they leave.

Really, nothing is more pathetic than an idiot like you who thought they had everything right, then found out ask their assumptions are wrong - classic pompous pig culture.

You talk of his in should worry about Chinese pigs putting a bullet in me? How can they when they don't carry guns you idiot? Of course they can take me to jail and steal my organs, but at least they don't carry guns like the pigs here.

The term pig is offensive to you BECAUSE YOU ARE A PIG, you're a pig calling for help now wanting moderators to do what you can't do - shut someone out from telling the truth about you, you're a pathetic keyboard authoritarian pig wanting to bully others by pretending to be patriotic.

Funny thing is you're a worse pig than the Chinese pigs in China, in fact you are the type to join the Communist party there simply because you're an authoritarian like them - that can't stand others who aren't authoritarian.

So remember this YOU PIG, I'm not the only one that chooses not to call the pigs for assistance no matter what, it's an easy choice - either call them and have pig culture idiots like you show up or not show up, or just keep going. The fact that many in this country choose the same as me proves just how much a problem pig culture is in this world.
I live in Garfield Hts. Ohio 44125. I'm not hard to find, and every coffee shop has free wi fi. So hop your silly square ass on a plane, or drive here, and get on line, and tell me where you wanna meet, there are more then one thread with my picture in them, so you'll know what to look for. I'll show you how much of a pig I am, you sad little girl. Now go dry your tears, and vagina, and have a nice warm cup of STFU. If you had even the slightest ability to judge character, you would know I'm far from afraid of you, or anyone else. I don't need the police, but I damn sure appreciate them. Hopefully you will take me up on my offer, and come visit. It's been a long time since I've danced.
 

Steve-FreeOnes

FO Admin / "selfish idiot mod" (he/they)
Staff member
@VillellaMcMeans you need to calm down or you're going to be taking a long vacation. Enough with the name-calling. If you can't debate without being childish then don't come in this thread or forum.

@Mr. Daystar please don't be posting your address on here and don't be baiting people into, what, a pier six brawl? Just ignore this stuff please or, better still, just report it.

I understand that the events of yesterday have proved upsetting but everyone just calm their tits.
 

Mr. Daystar

In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
I don't care if he calls me a pig, I've been called far worse, and in many ways, I am a pig. I specifically find offense in the reference to law enforcement. This isn't the 60's, when cops screwed with hippies because of drug use, and free love. This is an era in time, where a man is going to do a hard job, and just wants to get home to his family. It is not his fault the world is inhabited by a lot of screwed up up people. I just want that to be clear. I want that term for law enforcement to be considered the same as using a racial slur on this board. As far as I'm concerned, sticks and stones will break my bones, but whips and chains excite me! I wouldn't give him the street and umber, unless he was close enough, and could prove it, and even then, I wouldn't invite him to my home.
 

gmase

On the dark side of the moon
Well, not a shooting per say but:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/21/us/wisconsin-parade-crash-shooting.html

This is personal to me as my daughter and her family live in Waukesha and had planned to go to the parade today. She would have been right where the asshole rammed the crowd. Luckily my little grandson did not wake up from his nap in time for them to go, Her friends and neighbors were there. As far a I know no one she knows was hurt. But several have died and many more are injured. Supposedly both the car and also gunshots were used. The cops caught the guy but I don't know anymore about it. Except I am Angry.
Glad to hear your family is well.

Darrell Brooks, a guy who just posted bail and has a significant criminal history, is a ‘person of interest’ and may he be fleeing anothe
https://www.thedailybeast.com/darre...-interest-in-waukesha-christmas-parade-attack
 
I don't care if he calls me a pig, I've been called far worse, and in many ways, I am a pig. I specifically find offense in the reference to law enforcement. This isn't the 60's, when cops screwed with hippies because of drug use, and free love. This is an era in time, where a man is going to do a hard job, and just wants to get home to his family. It is not his fault the world is inhabited by a lot of screwed up up people. I just want that to be clear. I want that term for law enforcement to be considered the same as using a racial slur on this board. As far as I'm concerned, sticks and stones will break my bones, but whips and chains excite me! I wouldn't give him the street and umber, unless he was close enough, and could prove it, and even then, I wouldn't invite him to my home.

Good, since you admit you are a pig, at least that much can be settled.

As for you not liking law enforcement to be called pigs, you can cry all you want - a bad cop is a pig, what else should they be called? What would you like to sugar coat them with? Naughty cops? Misunderstood cops?

Find offence all your want, you just want to enable and promote the culture that cops are never wrong and should always get the benefit of the doubt - literally you want a double standard for you and your law enforcement worshippers to be always looked upon favorably, while the rest of the world gets all your suspicion and blame.

Oh, and your tough guy internet act looking though your crosshairs at the world? More pathetic internet forum tough guy talk, keep it up - that's exactly the definition of what good policing does not need is more pigs and pig culture of which you probably admit to be a supporter of.
 
I live in Garfield Hts. Ohio 44125. I'm not hard to find, and every coffee shop has free wi fi. So hop your silly square ass on a plane, or drive here, and get on line, and tell me where you wanna meet, there are more then one thread with my picture in them, so you'll know what to look for. I'll show you how much of a pig I am, you sad little girl. Now go dry your tears, and vagina, and have a nice warm cup of STFU. If you had even the slightest ability to judge character, you would know I'm far from afraid of you, or anyone else. I don't need the police, but I damn sure appreciate them. Hopefully you will take me up on my offer, and come visit. It's been a long time since I've danced.

Or you can keep acting tough through the internet through your crosshairs, you're not impressing anyone with your internet forum challenges - you've shown how much of a pig you are and how much you appreciate the police while saying how much you don't need them, you should make up your mind which is it exactly though.

I can judge character just fine over the internet, I can tell that you like to act tough and unafraid online - which indicates that you are the opposite offline, which is another example of a bad pig, someone who can't handle the stress of their duties and over compensates to mask their own inadequacies.

Can you provide links to your tough guy photos? Definitely interested to see what someone who admits they are a pig looks like, since you want to show me how much of a pig you are.
 
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