Seven shot dead at US army base

doesn't matter if dude is muslim . timothy mcveigh, colombine shooters, other school shooters..., white

should white folks be hated?


Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist as well!! Calling this bastard a terrorist, is not the same as saying Muslims people are all bad. I can see why some people are on the defensive though, as they feel the faith is constantly under attack. But just because he happens to be a Muslim, doesn't make his action any less terrorist-like. We need to stop bending all out of shape to find excuses for the obvious. He IS an Islamic terrorist!
 

Jane Burgess

Official Checked Star Member
Well, sorry, but I don't buy that. The same can be said of any damn terrorist. They are all suffering from post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)...after seeing so much "injustice" from other people and nations, they just can't take it anymore and decide to kill as many innocent people as possible.



Not buying doesn't mean it can't be true. PTSD is a real disorder. It is easy to dismiss if you have never suffered from it.
 
I really hope that you are kidding. Psychs work with a lot of disturbed people. They not only listen to their problems, they are responsible for their care. They are on call 24/7 too. Having a very stressful job can make people snap. A psych's job is way more stressful then a lot of other jobs.

I read that in the paper the L.A. Times the other day. It said mental professionals who treat patients for PSTD are also predisposed to getting PSTD via their patients.

I also read that persons who are battle worn and war torn who come home with PSTD, that their PSTD also affects their loved ones such as immediate family members and spouses with it who have to condtend with it besides a veteran with PSTD
 
here's the real problem:

Had this individual been some southern redneck named Billy Bob Jones shouting, "Jesus saves," while shooting down innocent people, the administration and the press would have been "jumping to conclusions" with both feet. 



We are being overrun with tales of how this poor, confused man felt persecuted and harassed because of his Muslim faith. This man complained about American involvement in Muslim countries, advocated violence as a way to protest and tried to convert psychiatric patients to Islam! And after he shoots people, we're supposed to believe he is the victim? 



Jihadists cut off civilians heads with rusty knives and murder their own children in the name of the "Religion of Peace." American soldiers take only the lives necessary to keep us safe, and manage to save a life that even Hasan's own family has now denounced. These soldiers didn't do it because they had to, but because they followed their training. It is endemic to the American ideal that where mercy is given, mercy is shown. The moral relativism that says American soldiers are just as bad as the terrorists is beyond hypocritical. It is insanity. It is Orwellian "War is Peace/Hate is Love," insanity. 


Our Muslim-sympathizer-in-chief, Barack Obama, wants us to believe this was an isolated incident with no connection to the Islamic extremism we are battling overseas; but clear-thinking Americans know better. They understand it is the same war.



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by Doug Patton

if he'd been of a Christian background, we'd've never heard the end of it. but no, this fat, Koran thumping piece of horse shit has more or less gotten a pass from the media. disgusting. just disgusting.
 

Facetious

Moderated
I see that boy wonder Obamma can't seem to find the time in his "busy schedule" to visit Fort Hood after last weeks horrific event.... too busy planning his big trip to red china I guess.
ººº what was that from the back corner there ? Oh, Bush beat him to the scene, is that it ? Damned Bush ! It's "W's" fault that Obama didn't visit Fort Hood:D

The guy would actually go golfing and shoot some hoops before visiting Fort Hood ?
Commander in what ? :crash:
 
I see that boy wonder Obamma can't seem to find the time in his "busy schedule" to visit Fort Hood after last weeks horrific event.... too busy planning his big trip to red china I guess.
ººº what was that from the back corner there ? Oh, Bush beat him to the scene, is that it ? Damned Bush ! It's "W's" fault that Obama didn't visit Fort Hood:D

The guy would actually go golfing and shoot some hoops before visiting Fort Hood ?
Commander in what ? :crash:

Be there tommorow for the memorial with Michelle as well.Lets hope he doesn't pull a Bush and just do a fly over.:D

http://www.examiner.com/x-12767-US-...l-service-on-Tuesday-link-to-memorial-service
 
well that's just going to give the idiots more excuses to tar all muslims with the same brush, real shame that the actions of one person can have such consequences for other people.

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we must kill or deport all muslims from the united states. They simply are not worthy of a peace-loving country such as the usa. Further, we must destroy all nations that are majority islamic.

While we're at it, we should deport (or kill) anyone who might disagree with such plans, as they are clearly terrorists or terrorist sympathizers.

And here we have an idiot who calls for genocide of all muslims. How nice of you to reveal your bigotry. Perhaps it is YOU that needs to be deported.
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
Ok, I still dont know all the facts but i think its very possible this was another example of how political correctness can be and is often deadly or harmful.
It seems there were red flags.
It seems people around him knew this guy was a possible danger or at least a problem but did nothing.
JUst like the teachers and security in california saw a bunch of non student mexican thugs sitting outside the dance and did nothing, we all know how that turned out.
Why? maybe because he was not a christian white man, pure political correctness.
Dont want to be accused of harrassing the muslim.....so now people are dead.

Its seems that in a time of war against muslim radical terrorist groups when you have a muslim officer in the US army denouncing the country and its actions it should be time to take a closer look.
THis is why for examp[le there were no japanese americans in the army during wwii, and if there were a few who were denouncing the US's actions in the south pacific at the time they would have been dismissed in a snap of the finger.
In todays politically correct country you can't do that.
hell you cant even question it, the play it safe and turn your head.
now we got another 13 dead and 30+ injured

Or maybe he just snapped and there was nothing that nobody could do.

Hasan's alleged extremist beliefs were apparently a cause for concern amongst some of his peers. While at USUHS, Hasan was disciplined for "proselytizing about his Muslim faith with patients and colleagues"[39] as well as for an incident in which a lecture, expected to be of a medical nature, became a diatribe against "infidels." Army doctor Val Finnell complained to superiors about Hasan's statements. Finnell said, "The system is not doing what it's supposed to do. He at least should have been confronted about these beliefs, told to cease and desist, and to shape up or ship out."
 

Wainkerr99

Closed Account
A closer look might not have hurt, as long as it is discreet, after all, isn't this what we pay the SS for? I mean the CIA.

As far as violence is concerned, it is no legacy to leave the next generation.
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
A closer look might not have hurt, as long as it is discreet, after all, isn't this what we pay the SS for? I mean the CIA.

As far as violence is concerned, it is no legacy to leave the next generation.

a closer look may not have hurt?
dude he shot 43 people?
discreetly?
why? oh yeah political correctness.
well his superiors did you one better, not discreetly, but nothing at all.
thats about as discreet as you get now isnt it.

lawsuits caused alot of this political correct bullshit, maybe lawsuits of victims familys like in this situation can make things function properly like they used to.
 
Its seems that in a time of war against muslim radical terrorist groups when you have a muslim officer in the US army denouncing the country and its actions it should be time to take a closer look. THis is why for examp[le there were no japanese americans in the army during wwii,

Japanese Americans by the thousands fought and died as part of the U.S. Army in WWII. Included among them were a Medal Of Honor Winner, and Daniel Inouye , who went on to be a senator from Hawaii.

http://www.imdiversity.com/Villages/asian/history_heritage/voa_nisei_soldiers_0507.asp


And here we have an idiot who calls for genocide of all muslims. How nice of you to reveal your bigotry. Perhaps it is YOU that needs to be deported.


His post was satirical - the complete opposite of his actual position.
Want to find a real muslim hater on this thread? Look no further than the superman fanboy.
 

jasonk282

Banned
A closer look might not have hurt, as long as it is discreet, after all, isn't this what we pay the SS for? I mean the CIA. .

Why discreetly?
The FBI is actually doing the investigation I believe
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
Japanese Americans by the thousands fought and died as part of the U.S. Army in WWII. Included among them were a Medal Of Honor Winner, and Daniel Inouye , who went on to be a senator from Hawaii.

.[/QUOTE] ok bodes i didnt know th...ike i said political correctness is a killer.
 
Want to find a real muslim hater on this thread? Look no further than the superman fanboy.


ooooooooweeeee, I'm so scared. you know, people like you will come out and defend Islam all day and bash Christianity all day without hesitation. i'd offer you a one-way to the ME to preach hate against "allah" and be more than happy to pay for your ticket home (IF you ever made it back). ;)
 

Facetious

Moderated
Hasan believes in his religion first and America second

Our government would rather not offend muslims first and American lives be damned.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
This Jordanian camel jockey should have never even been in our country. Sick, sick story. Truly disturbing.

Since he was born here, exactly how would we have prevented that?
 
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