Scots sniper kills taliban leader with longest shot
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Rey C.
Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
From the weapons, ammo and techniques that sniper teams use, it's all about raising the probability of placing a round where it's intended to hit. The further out you get from the muzzle, the lower the probability that the round will hit exactly where it's supposed to. I don't know anything about the Scottish military, but I've known and shot with a lot of guys who were ex-military snipers and ex-SWAT team members. Like someone said, the spotter is as big a part of "the shot" as the shooter. And waiting for the best time to fire is also part of it. It's not like the team doesn't know how long it will take for the round to arrive. So they have to find the moment when the target is most likely to be static. And sniper teams have been known to watch a target for days or even weeks. It's not like a deer hunt where 5 minutes is a long time.
Like I said, I know nothing of the Scottish military. But after the U.S. Navy SEAL team took out three pirates with three shots (in the ocean!), it came out that spec. ops teams in the U.S. military have access to some very advanced sighting and optical technology for fire control and targeting. These guys are some scary muthas. I always felt like I was a pretty decent shot. But I know I wouldn't put it to luck and shoot against any of them for $20's.
Like I said, I know nothing of the Scottish military. But after the U.S. Navy SEAL team took out three pirates with three shots (in the ocean!), it came out that spec. ops teams in the U.S. military have access to some very advanced sighting and optical technology for fire control and targeting. These guys are some scary muthas. I always felt like I was a pretty decent shot. But I know I wouldn't put it to luck and shoot against any of them for $20's.
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This is not really the proper venue for this question but what the heck :
What exactly is our mission in Afghanistan ? Are we trying to encourage the local Afghani population to grow Pomegranates in place of Poppies ! :dunno:
Why does the Taliban have the upper hand on us ?
Why is obama playing the conflict in Afghanistan down as he is ?
What are the Talibans' ultimate motives in this struggle :
A) Topple the fractional and delicate Pakastani democracy.
B) Sieze control of the Pakistani Nuclear missile arsenal.
C) Develop the world's most heavily populated radical authoritarian (sharia law governed) islamic nations in the world.
D. All of above
Come on, is there an ulterior motive that I'm not privy to ? could somebody help me out ? :helpme:
What ever happened to all of those (some 87,000) unaccounted for weapons in the region ?
Who benefits ?
:crash:
What exactly is our mission in Afghanistan ? Are we trying to encourage the local Afghani population to grow Pomegranates in place of Poppies ! :dunno:
Why does the Taliban have the upper hand on us ?
Why is obama playing the conflict in Afghanistan down as he is ?
What are the Talibans' ultimate motives in this struggle :
A) Topple the fractional and delicate Pakastani democracy.
B) Sieze control of the Pakistani Nuclear missile arsenal.
C) Develop the world's most heavily populated radical authoritarian (sharia law governed) islamic nations in the world.
D. All of above
Come on, is there an ulterior motive that I'm not privy to ? could somebody help me out ? :helpme:
What ever happened to all of those (some 87,000) unaccounted for weapons in the region ?
Who benefits ?
:crash:
I disagree completely. If it were that much luck involved it wouldn't be an operation. Now getting an opportunity at a clear shot may require some degree of fortuitousness as you sometimes have to wait for days to do so. But no op is planned around the degree of luck you attribute to it...otherwise you don't have an op but blindfolded dart throwing.
Wow...stunning but not surprising. He's downplaying the conflict in Afghanistan?? I guess if campaigning to make it his focus in the GWOT, getting elected and immediately sending thousands more personnel to the theater and replacing the top American military leader there is your version of downplaying...I don't know what to tell you.
Why we're there? Because a criminal syndicate bent on attacking America, Americans and her interests have based their operations out of Afghanistan and their former regime harbored them.
But I thought the mantra from those like you was "never forget". I guess the extension of that would be "until Obama gets elected" huh?
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But how do we know this with any real certainty ? What information do you have to substantiate that thesis ?
"Interests" ? Aren't those demo party constituent forbidden, greed related motives :dunno: :shocked:
Why have the "democratiks" and their close cousin republikans forfeited the many golden opportunities in times past to effectively destroy the tall slender swarthy guy along with his minions ? It wouldn't have anything to do with $$$ would it ? :1orglaugh
Well your first error is the assumption that I'm a Democrat. I'm a registered Independent.
It's not up to me to substantiate anything as I (am not currently) nor your are in a position to appraise the information necessary to "substantiate". But are you now aboard the train which questions OBL or AQ's involvement in 9/11? Further "interests" can include many things worth defending..
"forfeited" is your word not mine so I can't attest to something I don't believe they have done or are doing. But back to my question...how soon we "forget". What happen to "never forget"??:wave2: Is it Obamnesia?
The snipers are always taught to aim for the torso as that is the largest part of the body, and also if a .338 Lapua Magnum round hit you in the chest, safe to say you wouldn't live to tell the tale, the amount of damge it would cause, the exit wound would be massive, you would bleed out quick, fair enough a headshot will kill instantly but it isn't easy to hit. Anyhow the longest shot was made by a Canadian Cpl Furlong, he took 3 shots and was firing at an insurgent in a chance meeting. Cpl Reynolds (the brit), however was on the roof for 3 days and he killed a guy called Musa, one of the top brass.
Ace Bandage
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Any word on whether or not he shrieked, "No scope, no scope," immediately afterward?
Philbert
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A sniper is prepared to achieve his goal, place his round/s where he intends, and return.
Quietly is the most efficient way to arrive, wait for the moment, and place the round where the mission dictates.
Leaving hostile territory and returning safely with the expensive equipment /the high-end training intact (alive) requires a level of special op ability that means you wouldn't have much time to annoy a Scots sniper before you began to live the rest of your life (assuming you were lucky enough to be allowed to live) in a great deal of pain. Breathing could hurt for a long time, fer instance.
You might be so minor a nuisance , that when you regained consciousness You Might have only minor pain to deal with...but any fool ignorant enough to think of a sniper as a tool with a tool is not really smart enough to be alive for long...the Gilly suit is a Scots thing, for instance; they are accomplished stealth hunters and mean, too!
I like snipers, but have none as close personal friends.:thumbsup:
I hope you find a sniper of any nationality and lay your opinions on them...please let us know how that works out for you...:rofl:
There is one sniping rifle than can kill any threat over 2400m of range, it is the chey tac m200 intervention 408 caliber sniper rifle.
http://www.cheytac.com/MilChSniperRifleUTube.asp
http://www.cheytac.com/MilChSniperRifleUTube1.asp
The 408 cheytac is superior to the 50 bmg ammo in terms of power and accuracy, the chey tac is also delivered with a specific computer that gives the shooter the level of wind, temperature elevation and type of environnement he is in, so the shooter can make the best shot and the single shot will be an immediate kill.
http://www.cheytac.com/MilChSniperRifleUTube.asp
http://www.cheytac.com/MilChSniperRifleUTube1.asp
The 408 cheytac is superior to the 50 bmg ammo in terms of power and accuracy, the chey tac is also delivered with a specific computer that gives the shooter the level of wind, temperature elevation and type of environnement he is in, so the shooter can make the best shot and the single shot will be an immediate kill.
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