NFL '16 Season Thread

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bobjustbob

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One thing that may end up being overlooked (again) is just how stupid the NFL's overtime rules are. That a coin flip can potentially be so consequential in deciding any game, let alone the super bowl, is completely ridiculous. NFL really needs to adopt the NCAA's overtime format.

I'm all on board with that. Each team should get the chance to control the ball.

Now that you brought up the NCAA, I remember the time when there was no shot clock for college basketball. NC and UCLA had their fast running high scoring programs but when they came into Princeton it was another story. Teams like them would hold the ball and wait. Make these high scores come to them and wait for defensive mistakes. 49 points won games over top 10 teams. That's over now. It's all about scoring points with run and chuck. That's why basketball is only about the last 2 minutes and why I'm turned off by the game.
 
Death by a thousand cuts. That's how Brady kills you.

As far as OT goes, I think it's fine as is. Atlanta's D had the same opportunity to stop a TD drive. It still has the thrill of sudden death (Tebow TD pass against Pittsburgh).

But please, do not go to the college football system. It's like tee ball.
 
That first and goal pass in OT should have been picked off any way. Atlanta's cornerback (whoever that was) had it in his hands and made my heart stop for a second for sure.
 
And honestly if Gronk is in this game I think it goes entirely different. Brady did what he had to do and his wideouts stepped up to get the job done without the best TE in the game today there to cause massive trouble for Atlanta in that game.
 
I can't believe the mistakes Atlanta made in the latter portions of the game. It's not just that they were outplayed late in the game, they were, but they also made a large multitude of bone-headed decisions that left the Patriots in it and game them a chance. The largest being the sack on the decision to throw and the following holding penalty when they were easily withing field goal range with only minutes left on the clock and up 8. They could almost have assured themselves of victory if they just could keep from being stupid. Being either aggressive or conservative for it's own sake is stupid, you always do what maximizes the chance of winning. Sometimes coaches can really get too cute for their own good. It must make the lost all the worse. I can't believe all the snaps Atlanta took with so much time on the clock when they could have been killing it either. I'm thinking the blunders by both the coaching staff and Matt Ryan will live with them a long time.
 
Yeah, well if Gostkowski hadn't missed an extra point the Pats wouldn't have needed overtime to win. If grasshoppers had AK-47's, bullfrogs wouldn't eat them.
 
Now that you brought up the NCAA, I remember the time when there was no shot clock for college basketball. NC and UCLA had their fast running high scoring programs but when they came into Princeton it was another story. Teams like them would hold the ball and wait. Make these high scores come to them and wait for defensive mistakes. 49 points won games over top 10 teams. That's over now. It's all about scoring points with run and chuck. That's why basketball is only about the last 2 minutes and why I'm turned off by the game.

Yep. I'm with you on that one too.

But please, do not go to the college football system. It's like tee ball.

How so? I mean it's eminently fair. Game ends in a tie. Each team is given the exact same number of opportunities to possess the ball in overtime.

Having a freaking coin flip potentially decide the Super Bowl? I just don't understand why anyone would support such a thing. These guys battle their asses off for 60 minutes, end up tied, and the flip of a coin is going to give a heavy advantage to one of the two teams? That's just nuts to me.
 
How so? I mean it's eminently fair. Game ends in a tie. Each team is given the exact same number of opportunities to possess the ball in overtime.

It may be fair, but it's also retarded (no offense acenipplelicker). Each team lines up on the opponent's 25-yard-line and they trade scores until one team fails to. A 28-28 tie in regulation can potentially end up a 66-63 final score or worse, not to mention skewing the hell out of the QB stats. In 2003, Kentucky and Arkansas went 7 overtime periods. Yeah, no thanks. And the NFL and the Players' Association will never go for that.

Having a freaking coin flip potentially decide the Super Bowl? I just don't understand why anyone would support such a thing. These guys battle their asses off for 60 minutes, end up tied, and the flip of a coin is going to give a heavy advantage to one of the two teams? That's just nuts to me.

Again, Atlanta's defense had the same opportunity to keep the Patriots out of the endzone as the Patriots did to drive and score a TD. I concede your point if OT was based on the old system where a team wins the coin toss and gets 1 or 2 first downs and kicks a 50-yard game-winning field goal.
 
Hogan: undrafted
Amendola: undrafted
Edelman: drafted 7th round
Gronk: out injured entire 2017 post season


Brady still set the SB RECORD for passing yards...with scrubs!


He is simply the greatest ever.


(and he's a Trump supporter to boot...:))
 
Hogan: undrafted
Amendola: undrafted
Edelman: drafted 7th round
Gronk: out injured entire 2017 post season


Brady still set the SB RECORD for passing yards...with scrubs!


He is simply the greatest ever.


(and he's a Trump supporter to boot...:))

If that wasn't already established, he set that shit in stone last night.

he did all that with scrubs, no Gronk, down 28-3 in the middle of the 3rd qtr with Atlanta's D with their ears pinned pinned back going after him.

Greatest of All Time almost doesn't do him justice. Oh, and he turns 40 in August.
 
I take extra joy in watching Arthur Blank having his heart ripped out of his chest after he goes to the sideline Jerry Jones style. He and his wife were celebrating ruining the Panthers' perfect regular season last year so I really had a schadenboner when she was looking at him like she was saying "please tell me we are going to win!"

I would much rather lose a Super Bowl like the Panthers did last year, just dominated the whole game and you knew it was over by halftime than the way the Falcons choked.

The Panthers will be back in the hunt soon. The Falcons players will need counseling for years to come. They may not sniff another Super Bowl this century.
 
Hogan: undrafted
Amendola: undrafted
Edelman: drafted 7th round
Gronk: out injured entire 2017 post season


Brady still set the SB RECORD for passing yards...with scrubs!


He is simply the greatest ever.


(and he's a Trump supporter to boot...:))

To play devil's advocate he has one of the leagues better offensive lines, and I don't see how draft position means much or is relevant in any way years later in terms of actual player quality when they end up above average or better. It might be a credit to the people that drafted them or got them at a reasonable price in free agency, but where NFL evaluators thought there skill level was almost ten years ago doesn't effect their skill now, and I doubt many people in the NFL see them as "scrubs" (I could also point out that going to overtime for the first time in history gives more time to rack up yards that nobody else could have gotten.)

Brady played well overall, especially late, but this wasn't some historically good performance by him. I wouldn't even classify it as great by his normal standards. He screwed up, took more sacks than he should have, was rushed often, and wasn't very accurate for many of his throws, and got away with a lot of near interceptions, and had a critical circus catch, he almost screwed up on, also go the teams way for once in a Superbowl.

It was a standard good game he usually puts out colored by emotion and people trying to create a narrative around it because of the situation.

While I don't want to take anything away from what the Pats did, it really was more a case of Atlanta losing it than of New England winning it. Even just lousy instead of totally horrendous game management and coaching would have made Atlanta win the game.
 
(I could also point out that going to overtime for the first time in history gives more time to rack up yards that nobody else could have gotten.)

I just looked at the play-by-play. OT only lasted a single drive and Brady passed for 50 yards. Take away those 50 yards, and he still broke the record for most passing yards in a super bowl.


And no Edelman, may not be a scrub but he's certainly no Julio Jones.
 
To play devil's advocate he has one of the leagues better offensive lines, and I don't see how draft position means much or is relevant in any way years later in terms of actual player quality when they end up above average or better. It might be a credit to the people that drafted them or got them at a reasonable price in free agency, but where NFL evaluators thought there skill level was almost ten years ago doesn't effect their skill now, and I doubt many people in the NFL see them as "scrubs" (I could also point out that going to overtime for the first time in history gives more time to rack up yards that nobody else could have gotten.)

Brady played well overall, especially late, but this wasn't some historically good performance by him. I wouldn't even classify it as great by his normal standards. He screwed up, took more sacks than he should have, was rushed often, and wasn't very accurate for many of his throws, and got away with a lot of near interceptions, and had a critical circus catch, he almost screwed up on, also go the teams way for once in a Superbowl.

It was a standard good game he usually puts out colored by emotion and people trying to create a narrative around it because of the situation.

While I don't want to take anything away from what the Pats did, it really was more a case of Atlanta losing it than of New England winning it. Even just lousy instead of totally horrendous game management and coaching would have made Atlanta win the game.



He broke the passing yards record for a Superbowl. Two of his main weapons were never drafted and one of them went in the last round, not to mention his best weapon Gronk wasn't even playing this post season and you don't think much of it?


Wow, I don't really know what to say. the "scrubs" reference is legitimate because EVERY NFL team thought they were scrubs at some point or another and never drafted or passed on these guys...BRADY elevates these mediocrities...there is no way to deny this at this point. If you don't think so, as I said, WOW,, don't know what to say to you.
 
I just looked at the play-by-play. OT only lasted a single drive and Brady passed for 50 yards. Take away those 50 yards, and he still broke the record for most passing yards in a super bowl.


And no Edelman, may not be a scrub but he's certainly no Julio Jones.

If true, and I don't have reason to doubt that it is, then Brady had 416 yards at the end of the 4th. He finished with 466. Kurt Warner had 414 in the previous SB record.
 
If true, and I don't have reason to doubt that it is, then Brady had 416 yards at the end of the 4th. He finished with 466. Kurt Warner had 414 in the previous SB record.

Roger that. Brady edged out Kurt Warner in regulation by 2 yards.

And this 6 point win was the largest margin of victory in any of the Patriot Super Bowls.

at least they've kept it interesting.
 

bobjustbob

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We see it during the regular season. Games shift from half to half. The first half is based upon strategy based upon videos. They hit the locker room at the half. They are now playing a live team and do adjustments. Good coaches set the correct strategies to manage the rest of the game.
 
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