I just read that several Heat players cried after the loss to Chicago.
SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is nothing more to be said about the Miami Heat.
/thebookontheseason
NBA 10'/11' Thread.
That's ridiculous. First of all, it's Wade's team. Second of all, they won't bail on the trio after one season.
I just read that several Heat players cried after the loss to Chicago.
SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is nothing more to be said about the Miami Heat.
/thebookontheseason
That's what happens when you sign players who think they won the championship before the season started.
so ture STDiva...
the heat coach really fucked up by outting some on his team as cry babies
get your signs ready come playoff time BTW can someone explain to me why james does not post up
Because he can't. James is getting by on speed, size and athleticism. He doesn't put in the effort to improve his skills. His FT% is 75 for crying out loud. Either he doesn't want to be the greatest player of all time, or he's too lazy to become it. I'm not going to say this because I'm a Laker fan, but Kobe wins a title, and spends the remaining offseason working on his game with Hakeem Olajuwon. James has been given everything since highschool. Now he has to earn it and he won't/can't.
the knicks are a tale of two teams. they couldn't beat cleveland a week ago and they blow out the utah jazz tonight.
I don't know how much you've been following the Raptors, but Amir has arguably been our most consistent player and easily our best 2 way player from an offensive/defensive standpoint. We have decent offensive players like Bargnani/DeRozan, etc...that completely suck on defense. Then we have good defensive players like Julian Wright/Ed Davis, who are far from role models on the offensive end. Amir's contract is well worth it.
Johnson has been a pleasent surprise this season. I live in Canada, so Raptor games are usually the only games I get to watch. Amir could keep improving a be a 15-10 guy every night. That's not what I'm saying. My point is, the Raptors had to dish out a 5 year contract worth 30 million for a guy who was in and out of the d league with Detroit. That's a little much if you ask me. Although it looks like he's starting to earn it. This is the exception, not the rule. The best thing teams like Toronto and Cleveland can hope for is a new CBA that promotes parity in the league. The NBA needs it. Until then, enjoy mediocrity.
Wow, we're bashing Lebron James because he's not the greatest basketball player of all time. I mean, come on, that's a little ridiculous.
Have you seen his jump-shot this year? It's impressive (wish he could hit them in clutch situations though). You can tell he put in the time. And his post-up game is really his only weakness at this point.
Is it really a bad thing to be a top 3 player in this league?:dunno:
Wow, I just defended Lebron James.
Consider this: How much better of an all-around player has LeBron become in his almost 8+ years in the league???
One can honesty say he hasn't really developed a great deal skill-wise. In fact, his career numbers show this. After his rookie year is numbers stay virtually the same year by year. His ppg differential hasn't been more than 4, and his ast. differential, never more than 2. Most of his other numbers are nearly identical year-by-year. No diss to him, his numbers are great, but the needle doesn't move much.
It honestly doesn't seem like he is evolving into a legendary player in the NBA. Everything about his career is testament to this. He's not getting to that super-elite level, and neither does any team he plays for. They just are very good at best. He reminds me of Randy Moss. For as good as he is, and even when you put him on the very best team, they can't seal the deal with him.
An Athlete getting by on ATHLETICISM? Go figure:surprise:
Nitpicking stats like his FT% when Lebron shoots better at the line than Finalist MVP Dwayne Wade & (I assume you are only speaking of perimeter players because the list becomes even longer with recent palyers like Tim Duncan & SHaQ ,both 3x Finals MVP)
As Laker fan I have to admit he is also a slightly more efficient scorer than Kobe:dunno:
Fact Check: KOBe DID NOT spend the remaining offseason working with Olajuwon. Kobe worked out with Hakeem for a 'couple hours' a few weeks before the season started. We don't know what Lebron does on his off time nor who he is working with because the media is too infatuated with other bullshit & playing on the blind vitriol for him instead.
Randy MOSS ? Randy Moss did his job when he caught the go ahead TD versus the Giants in the Superbowl. Unfortunately he wasn't allowed to play DB afterwards.
People criticized MJ his first 6/7 seasons just like people have Lebron ,but fortunately for him there wasn't an internet full of losers , who never played, dogging him nor 24 hour media to obssess over his every fucking mistep/failure.
MJ was a 'selfish ballhog' who couldn't win either & the pressure was on him to win. The reason he cried like a Bitch when he won his first ring(after 7 years & 29 or 30 years old) after proving all his naysayers wrong. That all disappeared after he won.
It will also disappear after Lebron wins.
The guy is already a LEGEND & he is only 26.
Though I think Boston is the team the beat in the East the season is not over & it is foolish to get caught up in the regular season.
Ask Cleveland about the only numbers that Matter; The Cavs went from a 60 win team to a 20 win joke 1 season after his departure(MJ didn't even have that effect on the Bulls when he retired the 1st time).
In the first half of Lebron's career all he could do was drive to the basket. Now, he has developed a legit jump-shot. Also, his passing ability has quite improved as well. And defensively... wow. Talk about an improvement there.
But, because he's not great at every aspect of the game, that means he doesn't put in the time? Seriously!?
Is this more about him as a person, or him as a player?
The person or the PERSON THEY PERCEIVE him to be.
There are people who like the game & appreciate great play(like me) & those who can't paly who sit back & nitpick every aspect of a players game. Sometimes I get the felling that these people who try to find every imperfection(no one says the guy is perfect) aren't truly fans & there is an antipathy that I just don't understand.
Lebron has already led his undermanned team to the NBA Finals in less than 4(?) seasons & we see his impact on an Organization/Team once he left ,but somehow we can deny that the guy is GREAT.
Oscar Robertson(I trust his opinion more than internet experts) agrees that Lebron is ALREADY in a 'class by himself'.
I never really been a Lebron James fan. I always felt like he got a little too much credit for not really accomplishing much. I've been more of a D-Wade, Kobe guy.
But now I watched every game of Lebron this season, and I'm starting to become more and more of a fan. The only criticism I have is his ability to close out games, but it's only the regular season, so I'm not going to freak out.
The problem is that the low post play is "old school" basketball and anything with a whiff of "old school" doesn't "sell" and doesn't get you on Sportscenter. If LeBron DID develop low post moves--who could stop him? A bigger taller guy will simply get hooked and LeBron has an easy dunk or an easy dish...a smaller quicker guy will get bumrushed to the hoop. He COULD really have all the tools.
We all should agree with Diva's point though--LeBron has been anointed and handed everything since the 8th grade. He has money, exposure, fame and only now sees that he has to actually win something to get into the GOAT discussion.
Kobe was handed a lot too at an early time. He didn't have to be the hero and carry a franchise like LeBron had to from Day 1. But Kobe can do everything--post up, shoot, close a game, etc. He knew he had to do these things.
Crying after victory is expected and understood!! But crying after a loss...UNACCEPTABLE for professionals. Unacceptable behavior.
We all should agree with Diva's point though--LeBron has been anointed and handed everything since the 8th grade. He has money, exposure, fame and only now sees that he has to actually win something to get into the GOAT discussion.
Kobe was handed a lot too at an early time. He didn't have to be the hero and carry a franchise like LeBron had to from Day 1. But Kobe can do everything--post up, shoot, close a game, etc. He knew he had to do these things.
Crying after victory is expected and understood!! But crying after a loss...UNACCEPTABLE for professionals. Unacceptable behavior.
You sound just a bit mad. Look here, if you appreciate great play and like the game so much, I'd expect you to have a way more advanced view on this subject.
You sit up and bash others on their close-minded view of LBJ, and present a very broad presentation on M.J.??? How's that?
LBJ is just as much media legend as on-court legend at this point. His numbers are fantastic, and he did lead an otherwise lackluster team to the finals, but is he (yes, again) Randy Moss???
Nobody questions their talent or their prowess on field, but they both cannot seem to seal the deal. Both are physical freaks, both were considered to be the best at their positions, both were put on 'can't miss' teams, and both are ringless. Now, the book on LBJ is far from written, but they are awfully similar in how they are viewed. It certainly doesn't help that they come off as douchebags, but to be fair, in the category that any and every athlete is judged on, they are lacking.
My problem with your (girk1's) posts are that you take a broad, self-falluting opinion and present it as the way it is...the same problem you have with LBJ haters. Yes, haters for this man exist, but you leave out one highly important factor when you compare M.J. and LBJ, and that's KILLER CLUTCH. That's right. He is a soldier, but he isn't an assassin. It's the biggest thing missing on LBJ that cannot be argued. He ain't a killer. Even before M.J. won a ring, he was the premere killer in the league. He'll keep his team in the game, and if given half a chance, end it. It's not something that can be developed, it just is there or not. This is the reason that LBJ gets an undervalued view on-court. He doesn't have that killer instinct, period.
You sit up and bash others on their close-minded view of LBJ, and present a very broad presentation on M.J.??? How's that?
LBJ is just as much media legend as on-court legend at this point. His numbers are fantastic, and he did lead an otherwise lackluster team to the finals, but is he (yes, again) Randy Moss???
Nobody questions their talent or their prowess on field, but they both cannot seem to seal the deal. Both are physical freaks, both were considered to be the best at their positions, both were put on 'can't miss' teams, and both are ringless. Now, the book on LBJ is far from written, but they are awfully similar in how they are viewed. It certainly doesn't help that they come off as douchebags, but to be fair, in the category that any and every athlete is judged on, they are lacking.
My problem with your (girk1's) posts are that you take a broad, self-falluting opinion and present it as the way it is...the same problem you have with LBJ haters. Yes, haters for this man exist, but you leave out one highly important factor when you compare M.J. and LBJ, and that's KILLER CLUTCH. That's right. He is a soldier, but he isn't an assassin. It's the biggest thing missing on LBJ that cannot be argued. He ain't a killer. Even before M.J. won a ring, he was the premere killer in the league. He'll keep his team in the game, and if given half a chance, end it. It's not something that can be developed, it just is there or not. This is the reason that LBJ gets an undervalued view on-court. He doesn't have that killer instinct, period.
Alright... Miami Heat: Over or Under 25 losses???
I'm going with under. What'dya think???
I'm going with under. What'dya think???
You know what, I certainly am not considering this tough-ass schedule. Yeah, I'm gonna have edit that prediction a bit.