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We're going to have to agree with what reality is. Have you read The Mueller Report?
Mueller Investigation Ends, No Collusion Charges, No New Charges
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We're going to have to agree with what reality is. Have you read The Mueller Report?
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Look, I didn't read "Lord of the Flies" either, and I crushed that book report, so... What about you, did you read "Lord of the Flies"? There wasn't a movie version for some people to fall back on. :fart:
Mueller's ponderous, thorough investigation turned up nothing actionable, and he doesn't want to look as though it was for lack of trying, so he makes vague allusions to subjectively perceived, nuanced, and thoroughly investigated events to give the lib-ninnies what they THIRST for - hope. It's either that, or they'll come after him for "letting Trump get away with it". They can't decide what "it" is, but notwithstanding.
So now Mueller is desperately hoping he can just move on from the circus, return to a semi-quiet life, and all the Trump-haters can focus their delusion in letters to their representatives, screeching for impeachment. He's practically begging you all to leave him alone.
Listen to your boy Johan - you're tearing your party apart, like pissy adolescents.
Trot out your 47 candidates for 2020, or wtf (do you get free egg roll, email sign up?).
Get to work on losing another election. :rofl2:
Sweet, stupid ninnies
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Like it or not, Trump won the election, we now have to live with President Trump for 4 years. Starting from thaat we have to options.
- Constantly whining about Russia collusion, popular vote, etc. In other words staying in the past, hoping we may change it (which we cannot).
- Focusing on the time being and the future fighting Trump here, now, fighting tooth and nail against every policy, every executive order, every bill that government passes and, as Mitch McConnell would say "deny President [Trump] a second term."
And if you realy care about the american people, you choose the 2nd option, because every minute you spent talking about Mueller, the popular vote or whatever, in a minute this government uses to roll back environment regulations, screw the american people for the benefit of corporations and billionaires, treat migrants like animals, etc.
If you choose the first option, it means you're only interested in power ofr the sake of it, not as a mean to make life better for americans
- Constantly whining about Russia collusion, popular vote, etc. In other words staying in the past, hoping we may change it (which we cannot).
- Focusing on the time being and the future fighting Trump here, now, fighting tooth and nail against every policy, every executive order, every bill that government passes and, as Mitch McConnell would say "deny President [Trump] a second term."
And if you realy care about the american people, you choose the 2nd option, because every minute you spent talking about Mueller, the popular vote or whatever, in a minute this government uses to roll back environment regulations, screw the american people for the benefit of corporations and billionaires, treat migrants like animals, etc.
If you choose the first option, it means you're only interested in power ofr the sake of it, not as a mean to make life better for americans
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I disagree with your characteristic of the first option above, and I disagree with your contention that we can't do both at the same time. We are.
Meanwhile, you and other, "progressives" like you are fighting Trump's and Trumptard's battles for them, proving you have fallen for the Trump/Russian Psy-Ops to get you to do just that.
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Amen to that! I just think it's sad that there are progressives like Johan that are willing to parrot the Trumptard Talking Points.
But, what do you wish to achieve with all that Muller thing ? What is the aim, the final goal, the best scenario's conclusion ? Do you aim at having Trump impeached ? 'cause that's not what Pelosi seems to want...
Progressives have a real, clear objective : unseat Trump in 2020. Unlike establishment democrats, they have a real project for America, different from "not being Trump". Hillary tried "not being Trump" as her program. We know how it ended. Now Biden seems to follow that path. Do I have to remind you A. Einstein's quote about insanity ?
Progressives have a real, clear objective : unseat Trump in 2020. Unlike establishment democrats, they have a real project for America, different from "not being Trump". Hillary tried "not being Trump" as her program. We know how it ended. Now Biden seems to follow that path. Do I have to remind you A. Einstein's quote about insanity ?
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There are a lot of objectives, "The Mueller Thing" can achieve, but the final objective for everyone on the left is to get the fuck rid of Trump.
You've been trying to reach that goal for now more than 2 1/2 years and you are still where you were 2 1/2 years earlier. Except you've burned some of your cards. In vain.
Whatever you'd try, you won't get him out of office before the end of his mandate. Best case scenario he's gonna be out of office on January 20th, 2021. Mark my words.
The best way to achieve that goal, to get rid of Trump is to do what progressives do : focus on the 2020 elections, pick a candidate that actually has a chance to beat him (in other words, a candidate that's not is corporate sell-out, like Hillary, Biden or Harris). Otherwise the world will be stuck with Trump 'til January 2025.
I'm more an more fed up with everyone in politics. My one mantra now is:
#TermLimits
#TermLimits
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I disagree with your assessment.
The Mueller Investigation gave Twump copious amounts of stress, grief, and anxiety.
It kept him a constant state of rage and turmoil and all at the heavy cost of Democrats regaining The House of Representatives in 2018.
Only a fucking fool would believe that Trump won't finish his first term, no one has suggested he will be removed from office.
The Senate, being controlled by ass clown Republicans would never remove their Leper Messiah, but that doesn't mean
Impeachment isn't a useful whip to beat the idiotic Trumptard party with, you, my friend, are just looking at shit all wrong.
You really think keeping the most powerfull man on earth in a constant state of rage, turmoil and heavy stress, for electoral prupose, is a good strategy. You realise the man could snap and cause a diplomatic incident (or worst,like the tim he cancelled military strikes on Syria at the last moment) ? You do realise that having Trump constantly in that state could lead to devastating consequences, on a global scale.
You're playing with fire my friend. But hey, in case things go south, it's not your house that's gonna burn...
You're playing with fire my friend. But hey, in case things go south, it's not your house that's gonna burn...
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Do you understand that your strategy is literally the appeasement that Chamberlain chose towards Hitler? To not enrage him?
Arte you serious? If a man is guilty of a crime (And you realize Trump is guilty of various crimes) - he needs to get kept accountablke for every one of them. And pay the price.
I am not giving him a pass. I('m just saying we should take his personality in consideration when dealing with him, avoid putting him and ourselves and the entire planet in a situation where he might snap. Remeber : if he decides to go for the nukes, no one can legally block him from pressing that button.
That's like treating with a terrorist who hold hostages : putting the guy in a state where he feels there no way he lives through this is not a good idea cause there's a very high probability he just snaps and kill all the hostages before killing himself
You know that's not gonna happen son instead of asking the impossible, look for the best way to deal with him, a way that doesn't gie him a pass but neither puts the country and the entire world at risk.
Look, I didn't read "Lord of the Flies" either, and I crushed that book report, so... What about you, did you read "Lord of the Flies"? There wasn't a movie version for some people to fall back on. :fart:
Mueller's ponderous, thorough investigation turned up nothing actionable, and he doesn't want to look as though it was for lack of trying, so he makes vague allusions to subjectively perceived, nuanced, and thoroughly investigated events to give the lib-ninnies what they THIRST for - hope. It's either that, or they'll come after him for "letting Trump get away with it". They can't decide what "it" is, but notwithstanding.
So now Mueller is desperately hoping he can just move on from the circus, return to a semi-quiet life, and all the Trump-haters can focus their delusion in letters to their representatives, screeching for impeachment. He's practically begging you all to leave him alone.
Listen to your boy Johan - you're tearing your party apart, like pissy adolescents.
Trot out your 47 candidates for 2020, or wtf (do you get free egg roll, email sign up?).
Get to work on losing another election. :rofl2:
Sweet, stupid ninnies
:loveeyes:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100054/
I read the book and their is a movie version.
Lets stop appealing to the lowest common denominator.
I'd bet that there have been plenty of plans in place to shut him down before he puts the country in serious danger since day 1. I imagine if he wanted to take military action that the pentagon was seriously against, they would refuse. Their job is not to protect the president, it's to protect the United States, and even the military has systems in place to remove a commander who is not fit for his position.
I say keep trump's feet to the fire. Don't let him be comfortable even for a second. This piece of shit should be reminded every second of every day what a fraud and failure he is.
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