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Armando Galarraga almost had a perfect game for the Tigers, but the 1st base ump blew the call. That would have been something, 3 perfect games in the same season.
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
Holy fuck this is the greatest robbery since the Brinks job!



Or....perhaps rather, as a Cardinal fan, the reference to Don Denkinger is more appropriate!



Umps being the deciding influence like this is abominable! I propose the MLB manager have at least one "red flag" to throw for replay ala the NFL to prevent travesties like this from taking place!!! :mad: This is just plain wrong!!!

Congrats to Galarraga....he pitched a perfect game as far as I am concerned and I hate the fucking Tigers (see "1968 World Series") but what's right is right Godammit! . :eek: Fuck you, Joyce! :thefinger Asshole!
 
That call against Galarraga was such horseshit. I am really pissed about this, there need to be reviews for special situations like this.
 
I'm going to miss Griffey, but he had nothing left in him. My Mariners lose a lot of fun and leadership in the clubhouse.

Is he done or something? I watched the game the other day and he just looked miserable. Didn't look like he was having fun at all. Just think back the Griffey of '98. God, the memories. I will never forget watching that season and living care free kickin' it with the buds. That's all we got in the end huh, memories. Well if Griffey's gone then damn, that's an era of my life that has passed. :(
 

PlasmaTwa2

The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
Same that Griffey is finally retiring. I still remember Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball for the N64. Good times.
 

PlasmaTwa2

The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
I forgot all about that game, I played it all the time.

It was probably the best baseball game of it's time.

And now for something completely different.



If only his skills transfered over to acting.
 

Vlad The Impaler

Power Slave
Same that Griffey is finally retiring. I still remember Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball for the N64. Good times.

The cop killer game. Honest to god, if you listened to the crowd long enough they were chanting "cop killer". I know I'm not crazy cause my brother heard it too. Unless he's crazy. Maybe it runs in the family.:dunno:
 
At least Joyce admitted that he blew the call. You have to give Galarraga credit for just taking the ball and getting that final out.

As for Griffey, I always did like him. Nobody had a sweeter swing than "The Kid". He played the game the way it should be played. He always went all out to help his team win the game, even if he would have been better off taking it easy.

:hatsoff: Kid, Cooperstown awaits you.
 
Griffey was the best I ever saw and he was my favourite player ever. 10 straight Gold Gloves, 600+ HRs, and it could have been so much more had it not been for his many injuries that not only held him off the field, but also definitely slowed him down as a player as well. I hate to say this because I would rather celebrate his remarkable career, but it is truly tragic that he never won a World Series. Then again, neither did Barry Bonds, Ted Williams, Ernie Banks, Ty Cobb, Willie McCovey, Carl Yastrzemski, Harmon Killebrew, etc. and they're all Hall of Famers (well, maybe not Bonds, we'll have to wait and see).

Honestly, I can't help feeling like Griffey's retirement is a mostly sad occasion. I'm unhappy in life right now though, so maybe that's why I feel that way.
 
A series win by the M's against the Twins, I'll take it.

It still hasn't quite settled in about Griffey yet. The team President is going to be talking to him tomorrow as Griffey said he wants to be a Mariner forever. I'm wondering if that means some kind of position in the organization, or just a future reference to him going into the HOF as a Mariner.
 
Baseball players have become so sissisfied. The pitchers in particular are pampered like newborns. The pitch count, the DL, the short rotations...they are so pussy afraid of losing them (the front office) that they treat them like queens. My dad told me that closers and relievers and so forth were unheard of when he was a kid.

This is why guys like Spahn and Young and even guys like Maddux and Morris and Blyleven are so much more cool; they were straight work horses. You don't find that much anymore. I know that there are quite a few pitchers in the modern game that are going a consistant 7+ innings, but the pampering shit is overkill. :2 cents:

Even a guy like Blyleven

You're looking at the small picture when you saw that. Yes some of the greatest pitchers of all time didn't have the restrictions that they do now, however you're ignoring the thousands upon thousands of pitchers who've had promise, pitched for an average of 1.2 seasons, (the average length of a pitcher's career prior to 1974) and had arm problems that either A. derailed or B. ended their careers. Those that didn't were exceptions to the rule, not the other way around.

You've also got to keep in mind that pitchers now are trained to throw harder than ever before. Guys that threw in the 90s in pre-1960 were guaranteed aces. Now, unless a guy has plus plus control, he's not pitching in the Majors without a 90+ fastball. Then you get into the real science of it: mechanics. Scapular loading, inverted W, and pre-pitch forearm pronation are all biomechanic issues with todays pitchers that never happened before. Pitchers before were told to throw how they wanted, now most coaches train kids to throw the way they think is correct, no matter how unqualified the coach is.

And then there's the financial issue. It's the nature of the beast. Want a pitcher around longer? The smart thing to do is limit him, and there is substantial evidence that limiting pitchers prolongs their careers significantly.

Holy fuck this is the greatest robbery since the Brinks job!

Fuck you, Joyce! :thefinger Asshole!

Give the guy some credit, he did mess up the call, but he legitimately felt awful for it.

"It was the biggest call of my career, and I kicked the shit out of it," Joyce told AP, "I just cost that kid a perfect game. I thought he beat the throw. I was convinced he beat the throw, until I saw the replay."

I've never, ever heard an umpire make a comment like that, it's clear to me he's remorseful.
 

StanScratch

My Penis Is Dancing!
You're looking at the small picture when you saw that. Yes some of the greatest pitchers of all time didn't have the restrictions that they do now, however you're ignoring the thousands upon thousands of pitchers who've had promise, pitched for an average of 1.2 seasons, (the average length of a pitcher's career prior to 1974) and had arm problems that either A. derailed or B. ended their careers. Those that didn't were exceptions to the rule, not the other way around.

You've also got to keep in mind that pitchers now are trained to throw harder than ever before. Guys that threw in the 90s in pre-1960 were guaranteed aces. Now, unless a guy has plus plus control, he's not pitching in the Majors without a 90+ fastball. Then you get into the real science of it: mechanics. Scapular loading, inverted W, and pre-pitch forearm pronation are all biomechanic issues with todays pitchers that never happened before. Pitchers before were told to throw how they wanted, now most coaches train kids to throw the way they think is correct, no matter how unqualified the coach is.

And then there's the financial issue. It's the nature of the beast. Want a pitcher around longer? The smart thing to do is limit him, and there is substantial evidence that limiting pitchers prolongs their careers significantly.
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I got into an argument with a coworker about arm injuries back in the day. He kept harping literally over and over for several minutes about how pitchers today were not like Bob Feller because Bob Feller went out there almost every day and threw more than 100 pitches a game and Bob Feller threw more than 300 innings a year...
Finally, I answered that for every Bob Feller out there, there were at least 40 David Clydes, Gary Nolans, Jim Maloneys, Santo Alcalas, Wayne Simpsons, Jack Armstrongs, Jose Rigos...the list went on.
He shrugged and said "Yeah, but I've never heard of most of those guys."
He gave me a strange look when I told him that was my point.



As for Junior...I literally watched the guy grow up. When I was a kid, I remember his dad coming up, and somewhere, I have a picture of a 5-year-old Junior in a father-son game, along with Dave Concepcion's kid.
During the 1990s, he was obviously one of the best (if not the best...and I think he was) in the game. Defensively, there was no equal and when his bat was hot, he was hot. I remember jumping up and down in the living room, waving him home on the Martinez hit shortly before the famous Smile in the Pile. Of course, I was thrilled when he became a Red - unfortunately, by that time, his turf knees were starting to bark a little too loud. Watching Junior the last couple of years has probably been like watching Willie Mays with the Mets or Babe Ruth with the Boston Braves.
I always thought it was a shame he spent so many years on turf. I think few appreciate the damage the stuff did to outfield knees: I can only think of a couple true Hall-of-Famers who played on turf (Andrew Dawson - and his knees were gone by the time he got to Chicago, and Kirby Puckett. How a guy with his build never got bad knees, I will never know). I am glad to see most teams in baseball have moved away from fake grass.
And finally, he did it without PEDs. If you look at his build as a 19-year-old, he still has the same basic build. Yeah, his ass it a bit bigger - but he never turned into a mutant. In fact, if you look at pictures of his dad at the same age...the two could be twins.
It's too bad to see someone I virtually grew up retire - and especially to go out like this (and without a ring)...but I guess with a mutant like Jamie Moyer still taking the mound, I don't feel so old.
 
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