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Re: Maria Swan / Princessa

True - in real life.

But these girls tries to get attention and earn money on their bodies on the internet and in magazines.
They have taken on the role as sex objects, not someone we really care about besides from what they show us.
Why would we, there are plenty of sexy girls all around who we consider sexy and respect for their mind and qualities.
But some random girl on the internet....give me a break.

So, you agreed with LabelKills, just because a women have big breasts like Jana, Denise and Ewa that they should be doing porn, and its a wastes of boobage, because they aren't doing porn?, even if it some some random chick over the internet...Many of those model are very intelligent young women with good heads on their shoulders and don't have to degrade themself by fucking every Tom, dick and Harry on video Camera, just because they showcase themself over "the internet" and have big breasts, do topless ect...... Oh, and the 3 women's i mention are very intelligent womens and have stated many time before just because they showcase themself as some sex object, they aren't sluts....
 

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Re: Maria Swan / Princessa

So, you agreed with LabelKills, just because a women have big breasts like Jana, Denise and Ewa that they should be doing porn, and its a wastes of boobage, because they aren't doing porn?, even if it some some random chick over the internet...Many of those model are very intelligent young women with good heads on their shoulders and don't have to degrade themself by fucking every Tom, dick and Harry on video Camera, just because they showcase themself over "the internet" and have big breasts, do topless ect...... Oh, and the 3 women's i mention are very intelligent womens and have stated many time before just because they showcase themself as some sex object, they aren't sluts....

Jana looks intelligent, but the other two definitely not - they have an obtuse look in the eyes. :)
 
Re: Maria Swan / Princessa

So, you agreed with LabelKills, just because a women have big breasts like Jana, Denise and Ewa that they should be doing porn, and its a wastes of boobage, because they aren't doing porn?, even if it some some random chick over the internet...Many of those model are very intelligent young women with good heads on their shoulders and don't have to degrade themself by fucking every Tom, dick and Harry on video Camera, just because they showcase themself over "the internet" and have big breasts, do topless ect...... Oh, and the 3 women's i mention are very intelligent womens and have stated many time before just because they showcase themself as some sex object, they aren't sluts....

No, they should make it big in politics, omg! What a thrill that would be!

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bring on the pix ffs.
 
Re: Maria Swan / Princessa

Haha, so much moral and philosophical debate...

At the end of the day, it's just a job, like any other one. No big deal.
 
Re: Maria Swan / Princessa

And like DM, Jana is not going to make any main-stream career, because no TV or film company takes babes with boobs like that for non-adult-oriented productions.

maybe she can... in Europe, Eastern Europe specifically. maybe she can't sing but maybe she can try to get a gig like how big boob models like Alex Sim-Wise or Lucy Pinder, in a much downscale way of course. And she's got the upper-hand over DM because her boobs are reall and she's actually shown them before.
 
Re: Maria Swan / Princessa

So, you agreed with LabelKills, just because a women have big breasts like Jana, Denise and Ewa that they should be doing porn, and its a wastes of boobage, because they aren't doing porn?, even if it some some random chick over the internet...Many of those model are very intelligent young women with good heads on their shoulders and don't have to degrade themself by fucking every Tom, dick and Harry on video Camera, just because they showcase themself over "the internet" and have big breasts, do topless ect...... Oh, and the 3 women's i mention are very intelligent womens and have stated many time before just because they showcase themself as some sex object, they aren't sluts....


Well, if they want to be known for their brains they chose the wrong business.

If you make a living out of showing skin on the internet, you must expect people to judge you for that. They might be smart or stupid I don’t care, Its not like they’re my financial advisers they are someone who wants my attention on the Internet in order to earn money.
I gladly give them my attention, but its their looks, just their looks and nothing but their looks I care about.

Anything else would be somehow disturbed.

Now; lets get some pics up instead of this.
 
Re: Maria Swan / Princessa

Oh, well didn't photobucket banned this website :)
 
Re: Maria Swan / Princessa

Well, if they want to be known for their brains they chose the wrong business.
Ever met a woman, even from afar (e.g., video, interviews, etc...) that totally knocked you on your ass? It's awesome to have both looks and brains, and is a major, major turn-on for me. One might argue the business savvy of Danni Ashe, combined with her persona, makes her the ultimate charisma in the industry. I surely would love to have just dinner with her, where I'd get to oogle and exercise my loins above the waist. ;)

If you make a living out of showing skin on the internet, you must expect people to judge you for that.
Judge in what way and to what values?

I'm really interested in why we should treat them, by default, different than any other woman? And, by default, that is a "lady" in my book, although I noted you differed in an early post.

A lot of guys want lovers who will take it in every hole and all-the-way. Now my question is, can this same woman be your wife? The mother of your children? What "values" change? Or is it because you personally know them, versus these "random Internet babes"?

I think I see your answer in a previous post. From what you stated, it seems that since they take money for their looks, that's all they are good for. And that means they should just given into what people want to pay for, their considerations be damned? After all, they damned themselves the second they started posting?

One poster here stated Jana does not want to post nude any more, and promised her he would not tell why. Could it be how she is treated? In fact, she's hinted to that in many situations, the "expectations" and "different values" assigned to her by people, probably in how they treat her.

I find it completely ironic that men want women to do more, then turn around and devalue them for it.

KEY: It's not the woman who is devaluing herself, but how she is treated by men (and other women) as a result.

If we would treat all women like ladies, regardless of what they did, then maybe, just maybe we'd have a more free society of less judgement, more love and ... God help us ... more, open erotic behavior including more sex for everyone!

They might be smart or stupid I don’t care, Its not like they’re my financial advisers they are someone who wants my attention on the Internet in order to earn money.
A lot of people get paid for the attention they bring to themselves. What makes them different? "I gave you money so I can treat you like I want!" At what point does that end?

Now consider you are Jana, and consider sometimes how she has been treated. Now you decide to do non-nude because of it. As a consumer, you are fully entitled to choose to spend your money where you wish, but also consider that money is not everything to people. That's hardly a value among only the adult industry, but world-wide.

So, again I ask, what makes this industry so different?

I gladly give them my attention, but its their looks, just their looks and nothing but their looks I care about.
And that's your choice and fine to do. You're also fine not to spend any more money on Jana now that she's not doing nudity. But to act like money is the only factor in her lift -- let alone what some of your same "values" cause women to do (often leave) -- is part of the problem.

Anything else would be somehow disturbed.
Huh? It's "disturbed" to realize there is an individual at the end of the camera? That maybe, just maybe, there are women who enjoy being oogled, enjoy sexuality, enjoy being ... a woman for men! Gasp!

Not every woman who sheds her clothes for money is against the adult industry and in it for only the money. But there surely is a lot of money being thrown with "strings" attached to things the woman never agreed to do. That is for certain.

Now; lets get some pics up instead of this.
Hey, it takes at least two (2) to get these debates going. Don't judge others without being judged yourself, regardless of money.

Besides, this isn't about judgement. It's the folly of men who expect things, and are oblivious to results of that.
 
Re: Maria Swan / Princessa

Thank you Prof Voluptuary, thank you very much. It pitful how some of those fool treat and talking about some of the models/womens on this board, just of because of what they do, So disrespectful. It good to know there are men like me and you still around. And they call themself fans...... yeah right. When you can't respect the model choose, you aren't a fan.
 
Re: Maria Swan / Princessa

And they call themself fans...... yeah right. When you can't respect the model choose, you aren't a fan.


You are right about that - off cause I am not a "Fan".

I like to watch them without close - that’s all they mean to me. How can anyone become fan of someone only because she has a nice rack?

Prof Voluptuary

I agree with you in most of the things you write.

It just seems that You Missed my initial point of departure, so let me try to be more precise this time.
What a girl chooses in terms of her limits is obviously her own choice and no one should force her into something she doesn’t want to do.
I don’t think there can be a second opinion to that.

But when a group of guys on an online big tit online group discuss how we would prefer things, we would off cause prefer that her limits was a bit extended, so that we got to see her do what most of us like.
She has decided to earn a living on her boobies, not on her personality. It should obvious then, that that is what we care about. When you choose that kind of living, you must expect people to look at you in that sense, and if you are good at what you are doing, people want more. That’s what we are expressing – we like her and her boobs, we would like her to give us more.

You cannot compare random girls on the internet with our real life girlfriends etc. since all the online girls to most of us is nothing but “objects” (unless you see yourself as a “fan” or even worse, a stalker), while the girlfriend or anyone else that I know in my real life is someone I have a responsibility for and care about as a person. The person behind an actor, a sports star, a musician or a model is not really of any interest to me, I just like their “products” and hope that they will develop in a direction that match my likings, and that’s what my statements are based upon.
At this point I feel like repeating myself.
I do not think anyone should be forced into something. I believe that the girls should do exactly what they feel like and nothing more.
But when someone stars to tell us, that we should not want this model to be a bit more daring because he is obviously over fascinated with her (which was what I referred to as disturbed), that’s when it gets a bit crazy for me.
That’s when the “product” and the person behind the product get blended together in an unhealthy way. I am not the one bringing the private person into this, I reckon we should only care about the product and let people who have real life contact with the models care about their personality.

How many people feel a responsibility towards a musician just because we like their songs?
 
Re: Maria Swan / Princessa

But when a group of guys on an online big tit online group discuss how we would prefer things, we would off cause prefer that her limits was a bit extended, so that we got to see her do what most of us like.

not always, Japanese gravure idols make their entire living always teasing and never going nude or even topless, sometimes if they go topless they lose their mystique and have to do harder stuff in order to remain popular. Sometimes when a model starts being oversexualized or even just full-frontal she can lose a certain appeal, maybe she'll get new fans but some old fans would be turned off. less skin is more sexy sometimes.
 
It really has nothing to do with ...

Thank you Prof Voluptuary, thank you very much. It pitful how some of those fool treat and talking about some of the models/womens on this board, just of because of what they do, So disrespectful. It good to know there are men like me and you still around. And they call themself fans...... yeah right. When you can't respect the model choose, you aren't a fan.
In all honesty, it really has nothing to do with "good" or "disrespect." Like many things in the world, the folly of men is a study in self-implementing futility. Men love women, most men enjoy seeing women nude, most men enjoy seeing women engage in all sorts of activities.

When men start excusing their views, then that only hurts all of us. Because when some women aren't treated like ladies, other women notice. And that only curbs their exhibition as they see the results. Again, we all lose out.

Prof Voluptuary
I agree with you in most of the things you write.
It just seems that you missed my initial point of departure, so let me try to be more precise this time.
What a girl chooses in terms of her limits is obviously her own choice and no one should force her into something she doesn’t want to do.
I don’t think there can be a second opinion to that.
My apologies for missing that point.
But regarding ...

But when a group of guys on an online big tit online group discuss how we would prefer things, we would off cause prefer that her limits was a bit extended, so that we got to see her do what most of us like.
She has decided to earn a living on her boobies, not on her personality. It should obvious then, that that is what we care about.
Why? Why does it have to be that? It's self-defeating for us men.

When you choose that kind of living, you must expect people to look at you in that sense, and if you are good at what you are doing, people want more. That’s what we are expressing – we like her and her boobs, we would like her to give us more.
But some people take it too far. If men would just throw their own expectations out-the-window, then things would be much better -- for us men. Again, it's not about "good" or "disrespect," but the self-defeating nature of us men.

You cannot compare random girls on the internet with our real life girlfriends etc. since all the online girls to most of us is nothing but “objects” (unless you see yourself as a “fan” or even worse, a stalker),
Don't equate "stalker" as a case of a "fan" gone wrong. The "stalker" attitude is also similar to the "don't care about her feels" attitude. That's the problem.

All women are ladies, period. Just how it should be. Not because I'm a "good guy," but because it sends a message. Now if a woman "takes advantage" of that attitude and treats you like dirt, you don't resort to the same or disregard, you just avoid her.

while the girlfriend or anyone else that I know in my real life is someone I have a responsibility for and care about as a person. The person behind an actor, a sports star, a musician or a model is not really of any interest to me, I just like their “products” and hope that they will develop in a direction that match my likings, and that’s what my statements are based upon.
I never said "care" for them. But I don't think condoning attitudes helps any of us men in our lustful quest.
At this point I feel like repeating myself.
I do not think anyone should be forced into something. I believe that the girls should do exactly what they feel like and nothing more.
And I have now noted that above.
But when someone stars to tell us, that we should not want this model to be a bit more daring because he is obviously over fascinated with her (which was what I referred to as disturbed), that’s when it gets a bit crazy for me.
Dude, I don't call it "over-facinated." In fact, you're reading way too much into things now.

You are insinuating this is unhealthy. Sure, there are some people who become "protective" and that is. But a lot of times, and if you even remotely know where I'm coming from, it's about men not fucking all of us other men. That means all women are ladies, stick to that plan, and there are going to be a lot more women out there going nude and sharing themselves with us.

Until then, they have plenty of fears that are real.

I still honest don't know how you equate general concern with stalkers. They are not that numerous. They are far less numerous than the "oh, she's a body and object" that is no more healthy.

That’s when the “product” and the person behind the product get blended together in an unhealthy way. I am not the one bringing the private person into this, I reckon we should only care about the product and let people who have real life contact with the models care about their personality.
I don't disagree. But I disagree with the correlation (and simplifications) you are making.

How many people feel a responsibility towards a musician just because we like their songs?
But wouldn't the music industry -- let alone the whole celebrity world -- be much different if people didn't judge, criticize and otherwise complain about things they don't remotely understand about someone? It's rather pathetic and, more relevant, self-defeating. I mean, people wonder why overnight stars totally go off the "deep end."

Yeah, the root cause is always their own irresponsibility. But a major factor that regularly pushes it is the world that is built around them by people who do not even know them.

I guess my point is that I tire of people saying things about other people, without remotely even knowing that person. That's what I have a problem with.
 
Re: Maria Swan / Princessa

Love this babe and those amazing tits
Thanks for the galleries
 
Re: Maria Swan / Princessa

well, it was just a matter of time, is there anymore anyone? had a look on that site, but nothing
 
Re: Maria Swan / Princessa

That her alright, not photoshopped. I'd say a an ex bf post those pix to get back at her...
 
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