Life After Death

[passenger57]

Who knows, sometimes when I see all the injustice in the world I think it doesn't matter if you have a great and wonderful soul, once your body gives out then the mind goes with it and you cease to exist, other times when you see how complicated our bodies, the planet and the universe really is you think that 'death' can't be the end and great minds/souls go on to other things, I also know a few people who claim to hold seances and talk to the dead and they've got no reason to lie to me. Sometimes I'm sick of this life and wonder if I really want to live through another one but then again an afterlife might be something completely different where we don't experience pain and suffering as we do now, I was sort of brought up to believe in reincarnation (my parents had a Buddhist phase) but when you think the earths population started with 2 (?) then went up to 100s, 1000s, millions and now billions where are all the new souls coming from? People are dying later and birth rates are up so births outnumber deaths so new souls are being introduced unless 1 soul can go into several bodies but then again what would that be all about? I say respect all those who either believe in an afterlife or those who think we just rot in the ground, normally these opinions are formed during traumatic life events and you can understand the reasoning behind it and just live your life being pleasant to others so you brighten up their lives regardless of whether there's an afterlife or not, if you're 'nice' just to get into heaven then your being led by fear and not true love for your fellow man/woman.

Good words there.

 

[288gto]

we're gonna die, so what matters?

 

[passenger57]

I'm sorry to burst your bubble but there is no life after death. In fact, life after death is a complete contradiction...adopted into the Christian religion by pagan beliefs (also the concept of Hell which was influenced by the Greek Hades).

Think about it for a moment. How can there be LIFE (the absence of death) after DEATH (the absence of life)? ...If there is LIFE after DEATH then nobody DIES IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Why else do you think the concept of Jesus' resurrection is so important to Christianity (although most Christians are completely oblivious to this).

Jesus had to be RESURRECTED (i.e. be risen from the dead...NO LONGER DEAD) in order to live again...If the Son of God has to be resurrected don't you think everybody else does too? You can't LIVE if you are DEAD.

It's almost as bad as the title of George. A Romero's "Night of the Living Dead"...which is a complete impossibility, as you can't be "living" if you are "dead".


BTW I do believe in God and the Bible (as opposed the Christians) to a degree as the Bible is full of errors and mistranslations....why else do you think there are 100s of different versions?

No bubble burst here.............................it's what one believes.

 

[Dawgadawgs]

It depends on who's dying. If somebody outside of your conscience (essentially anyone but yourself) is dying, they are subject to the physical and biological processes of death - rotting, decomposition, etc. The electrical and neurological impulses that drove their behavior have now almost completely ceased to function, and will soon stop altogether, and the identity of the human is lost. Simply, nothing happens to them. They fade from existence and it doesn't really matter anyhow from a physical standpoint. If it is you, however, everything will simply stop for you. Not like sleep, just nothingness. The universe itself, being defined by your observation of it and your ability to observe it at all, would disappear from existence alongside you. Basically, everything would be nothing. This is a more solipsist, nihilist, and quantum mechanical viewpoint. But its motherfucking awesome. Deal with it.

 

[passenger57]

Who volunteers to kill themselves then report back to us?

Nobody wants to fast forward this, i would think.

 

[Roald]

I really hope there is no such thing.

Imagine that, finally done in this life and boom starting a new one $%@$#SD%

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Life after death is that your corpse contributes to the lives of the underground insects and worms.

+1

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[passenger57]

I'm not going to obsess about it. When death comes to me then it will be what it is. One thing that I do think is that people have an impact on others. Most slight and passing but we don't really know how much more there is. Think about all of the people that come into our lives. People from past jobs. Kids you went to school with. Waitresses from all of the restaurants you've eaten at. You may have forgotten most of them but you have no idea how many of them still remember you. You made a funny or rude comment. You happened to be there to give them directions when needed. Some of them still remember you and you still remember them. It is that kind of spirit that stays with us all yet the other will never know of it. So, our afterlife doesn't commence upon our death. It's just how much of an impact we made upon others to determine it's volume and longevity.

First impressions last a lifetime. And i wish i could do a couple things differently in hindsight.

 

[passenger57]

This go around is all you get, make it count.

Every day.

 

[passenger57]

I feel sorry for all the non-believing hapless empty souls with so little faith in their heart, how sad. Well if you need paranormal proof of existance of the supernatural realm, here it is ! Turn up the volume all the way, pay very close attention, and keep your eyes focussed on the rocking chair. I garauntee you will ABSOLUTELY and UNDENIABLY get the proof that you seek.

Yep, i jumped !

 

[passenger57]

I absolutely believe that we are "eternal" and there is a higher power, although I can't prove this. We will be together again in my opinion. Condolences. Nester

Thank you for you condolences, and I, too, believe !

 

[passenger57]

I don´t know if most people who say that they believe in "life" after death actually have given any kind of thought to what it is they´re actually saying. Some poeple say that it´s the "mind" or their ability to think that live on on some other plane of existence. What these people seem to fail to understand is that their ability to think is directly dependent of the physical condition of the body (or at least the brain). Let´s say that someone for example developes a brain tumor, which completely changes their personality, or even worse, turns them into a vegetable. When this person dies, what is it that "lives on"? Is it the person they were when they died? The person they were before the brain tumor? I saw a documentary on tv a couple of years ago about people who had basicly turned into sociopaths after developing brain tumors. What happens when these people die? Is it the normal person they were a few years ago or the sociopath that live on?

Then there are those that refer to the "soul". Let´s for argument´s sake say that there is such a thing as a soul. Then this something must be entirely separate from the "mind", since the ability to think, memories and how a person interprets the world is dependent on the physical condition of the brain. If you take away all meories, the ability to think, and everything that a person have experienced in this plane of existence, then what is really left? Some sort of "infant" state that have the potential to become a "person". That´s not continuing to live after death, that´s more like "rewinding" and starting over (now when i think about it i guess it´s kind of like reincarnation).

I have tried to discuss these kind of things with religious people before, and it was about as pointless as trying to explain quantum mecanics to a gold fish, so this is the last thing i will say on this subject.

I appreciate your input !

 

[C.K. Lawrence]

I wonder if I ever died before, I don't remember for certain if I did, so... yeah gonna go with folks die and I keep going.

 

[passenger57]

Life after death? There is no such thing.

Some say there is though.

 

[passenger57]

You're welcome. I've studied all the major religions ad nauseum and, for all it's faults, Buddhism is the only one that truly makes any real sense to me. Others will surely disagree. The fact is that no one knows for sure but that we will all find out the hard way when our day to die becomes reality.

I hope it is peaceful !

 

[passenger57]

Let me state first that I am not a religious person, however I consider myself spiritual. I am not convinced there is a true heaven or hell--however I believe in the afterlife to an extent. I have absolutely no basis for my belief except it is what I have believed for years. My thought is we all come back as another living thing. I also believe that individuals who donate their hearts, kidneys, corneas or other body parts are born as babies with these defects (i.e. a cornea transplant donor is born blind). People may think I am strange in my beliefs but believe you me, my drivers license has a big NO next to organ donor.

You believe in what you think is going to happen.............everybody has their own thoughts and some might agree. In time we will all find out. Appreciate your thoughts !

 

[passenger57]

The only religion that makes sense to me is Catholicism and Deism. I'm more of a spiritual person from the heart.

Thank you for your input. I was not familiar with Deism but will read about it !

 

[passenger57]

I'd like a shred of evidence before buying into anything. First hand stories aren't very convincing. My mom has spoken and seen my nani after she passed. My mom wouldn't lie, but I think it's more likely that our brains are deceiving us over something without an ounce of tangible proof.

It's all about what one believes will happen and some have had experiences.

 

[jallyjames]

I like to accept as true that there is life after death. I'm not sure how, or in what pattern that would be. But, having a affirmative outlook is a allotment better than not having one at all.

 

[passenger57]

"...The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist.."

-Keyser Söze


Faith is as Truth and Love...Like good music, these things are metaphysical realities that you feel in your heart...Why is it that so many can not comprehend these things ?....I assure you it is not by coincidence.

Thanks for posting this. I am going to read up on metaphysics.

 

[passenger57]

The good thing about the situation was that my aunt could leave the apartment because she was renting, and not in a house underneath a mortgage . If she would have had to stay in that situation because, on a school teacher's salary, she couldn't afford to leave, then who knows what may have happened. The other good thing is that my uncle experienced the same thing and said something immediately, so that took a HUGE load off my aunts shoulders in wondering if she was crazy or seeing things.

My mothers' family is from a pretty tough hood so they don't scare easy, but yet I think they were both very shaken by the events. Yeah I think seeing something like that will definitely change your life, but hopefully for the better. Because now you know their really are spirits, some good, some bad. Who knows why or how they manifest themselves, but now you have hope that the good people in your life still exist, in some form, and possibly have moved on to a better place. So likewise you can always have hope that maybe you can see them, or be with them, again someday.

That would have blown my mind. I still hope that one day i will be with the people i love/loved when it's my time !